brother called me.

All right.

That's nice, man.

No doubt about that.

I guess, like, then I forget what side of it we are putting our money into burning.

All right.

Not the.

All right.

I have a brother, and I remember my mother.

Right?

We are gathering right now.

I'll be all right.

recording their new album.

It's going to be titled Don't Care Didn't Ask and Look for in the Fall.

Make some noise, Let out your.

So with no further ado, I just want you all to know that since we're filming this, the more hype and the more energy you can give this band, the better they will look to the rest of the state.

And the whole point, the whole point of sounds on tonight is that people know what amazing music is being made in Colorado.

So let's make some noise.

Let's give some energy.

To cheap perfume.

One more time.

My friends get a chance knocking.

On my door.

My, my, my, my, my, my, my outsider.

I'm waiting to buy the car in your hand and make it good.

Take a photo right about anytime.

You know what?

No, no, no, no, no.

Yeah.

Now, I did.

I see Die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die, die!

Down.

I'm watching.

I'm.

How do you all maintain your energy during the show?

What place do you go to for that?

For me, I think it's a lot of, like, looking at the audience, especially when there's, like, a lot of young folks down there.

I've always believed that music is, like, such an exchange of energy, and so it's definitely coming a lot from there.

I think that there's like a rage that is channeled for sure.

And then it's also just like fear.

Like, I'm just scared, mine is kind of the opposite of like when I do karaoke.

My trick is I just kind of like, close my eyes and just pretend no one's watching me Yes.

and that's kind of what I do on stage.

I just kind of try to zone out, like, look at I like it Steph and Willow and Dave because like, they're my comfort zones.

But then every time I look in the crowd, I'm like, those people are watching.

So I kind of just I also kind of just run around constantly, but more insulated my own little zone kind of thing.

See, I love that because seeing you all perform nervousness or fear would be the last thing that anybody would project on to your.

You all have such and such a power.

And even the folks that I was like with when they're watching a performance is like power is what they felt from your performance.

So I think that says like something incredible, like, can you all talk to me a bit about how you how you built your alchemical process that allowed you to take like nervousness and rage and all these things and change it into something that ends up being a powerful experience for people who listen to your music and see you live.

I mean, I think, like, most of that comes from Stephanie.

having been in bands like Willow were both kind of timid performers, and Stephanie has never been that, and I think she definitely elevates things for me.

And, and she's the one who really kind of like bridges from the stage to the audience, you know, and kind of gets everybody like, like in the middle there.

I think that, like, this has been ten years in the making of like getting this like confidence together, though, and having to build that trust to it's like people that like if things go wrong or anything like that, that you can kind of like, you know, bounce off of each other.

And it's so fun because it's punk rock, but I think it's a lot of trust.

And then, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, a lot of that is, is time and just knowing each other and, and feeling comfortable playing the songs.

But also like knowing if something goes wrong, we kind of are now at a mindset where we can improvise rather than just kind of everyone shuts down, you know?

So I think Chris was way more comfortable the last like three or four years on the band as far as just know, like if you mess up, it's okay, we're Yeah, going and everyone's going to get it done.

You get Daily Mail and I wonder if you feel like a with ga ga ga ga many do you know you have blood on your hands for sale.

Make a deal with eyeliner go hand in hand got I guys.

I'm like how many?

How many?

There's a little one on our way.

Going to rise is a little too little more just a little more white little and a little more and a little more white.

Man for one man.

You can tell me that.

But I had to get down to your hands and you got knocked down.

You know, you just did it all.

I got guys on my company down a this showing the rise in the last one below tell me that I now allowed my thing and now I've got.

I got it now I got one down and.

Thanks trust is incredibly important and it's been earned.

How does that show up in recordings for y'all now that you're like ten years deep and you've just worked on a new album?

That's so fun this time around.

This is a different, almost dynamic to the way that we've kind of written in the past.

Like, it wasn't an it was.

I think that this time around, like this music is a lot like more, I'd say like mathematical, but I feel like the songs are just like a lot more complex and like very high drive.

And some of it we were kind of writing like still even in the studio and it's like a process together of like down to the Wire.

Like, it's time to go now.

But then, I mean, like it's I can tell so much when I listen to this album, which we just kind of like finalized like all of our yeses on how much Willow and I have Ben or Jaden and I have been working like with our melodies for so long and the way that we play off each other and like that balance that we found that is just like it's so rageful and it's so sweet at the same time, which is like such a fun, like duality to hold.

Speaking of that duality, I feel like there are so many dualities in y'all's music and it's like the reconciliation of like contrasting ideas is I mean, I feel like it's even in the name itself, like cheap perfume, right?

And so it's just really amazing to me how you all will take rage and vulnerability, talking about real things within your lives and being able to perform them in focus and in front of people and being able to make some sort of powerful, ephemeral manifesto in that point in time.

Can you speak a bit more to like the spirit of that and punk music?

Cause I just don't think a lot of people understand the component pieces that go into the rage of punk and like where that comes from, you know, I'll talk about that.

I think.

I think a lot of when we're writing songs, there's a lot of times where we like Stop, especially some of the songs on the new album where we're kind of like, Is this what we are as a band?

Is this like what we want to is this?

This doesn't fit our thing and we think we should be doing one thing, which we did do a lot of a certain thing, but is like important for us to stop in the process and be like, we're like complete people, you know, we're not just one thing.

So there is like something that comes out of us that isn't necessarily like on brand.

It's still valid, you know?

So everything like all of the control, these are all like just part of who we are.

And that's like a human experience, you know, that will probably make more sense when you hear the album, but that's all of us as people.

I mean, Stephanie's not just like a raging, mean girl who wants to yell at you all the time.

She's actually like a very polite, sweet, delicate person who has some.

Skeletons.

In her rage.

Thank you, Jeffree.

And he's also like, not just a hard basis, but a soft boy at heart.

I think that like those it's so cool how you know, like there's been times that I've expressed, like, ideas, especially to Jane.

I mean, we do a lot of those lyrics together, and it's cool because even if one of us has, like, you know, like an idea, we'll bring it to the other one and just be like, okay, like here's kind of what I was thinking and we'll go over some words and like cadences and like restructure together, which has been like a really cool thing because I feel like I'm like, so sure.

And Reggie and like, I like to quip and Willow Jane is like such a talented, like writer and editor and so, like, very well thought out, like intellectual, like opinions and kind of crashing those worlds together is neat.

And then, as Jeff said, like, just like the whole of the human experience.

So like being able to talk about like sexual assault and other things like that and like having Jane understand, like, just the feelings that I was channeling, I mean, that takes so much vulnerability and trust, even between the two of you and then like being able to bring that to other folks.

Like, I think I think that that is almost just like a repeating cycle that like, keeps on giving because as soon as like we started talking about these really hard, heavy things on stage, it was, you know, like just like an outpouring of messages or people at shows just being like that happened to me too.

And like, sorry, I got a little teary, but it's like, so it was really triggering at first.

Took a really long time to figure out the right way to work with and that.

But I think it's so cool that like this, like rage and this like joy and all these feelings that we have as humans in our own experience, like, are so shared in You explain why nobody ever wants to be around you, but they're the ones you don't understand.

Like you take off.

I love it.

I'm here.

Not that I say behavior I can choose.

I should be.

Able to criticize everyone.

There's nothing wrong.

I'm down in the paper with the bullshit that you can never find that you're.

Wasting on the.

Internet when you're dead and dying.

Where does what do you really think about that?

I know that you're mind long as I dress another.

But to believe and I criticize everyone if there's anything outside of discussions on behalf of your life or another idea knocking on your door, what industry?

I'm not up on it now.

Right now.

Understand that there's a gender difference for the workers out there.

I do not want to give my name.

Share anything in your mind that's what I love about feminists is not going to believe in and criticize everyone.

But I don't really care.

or somebody who said that a riot is the outcry of people have been unheard kind of band you have to have behind you in order for you to feel like you can make that statement and be safe.

I mean, these like people, you know, it's I think I met Jeff when I was like 16 or 17.

So and that was almost 20 years ago.

So a lot of gratitude.

And just having known these like characters around town and in the music scene and then I think it's just like that kind of understanding that like even if we're not all for the same people and we don't like, hold the exact same opinions on everything, that our values are very similar and that like, no matter like what I say or do, like we're all still acting within our values within the band.

So I think that that's like a very big, like powerful part of it.

You know, honestly, we're all very different people and Stephanie and Jane are like very different.

And I think that like, really makes the writing come out very unique and very cool.

But we're all very different.

We're all very different people.

But like, like Stephanie said, I think 20 to 30 year relationships between all of us, like in different ways.

So it's like we trust each other and we love each other.

And yeah.

We have the same like band fights that everybody has.

But I mean, actually if I felt like kind of less when certain things come out, I'm like, no, we're actually really not so bad.

Yeah, I mean, we're very, I don't know, like, writing or planning tours or whatever we're doing.

There's a lot of, like, I think this, but you think this and like, that's valid to let's like, figure it out.

No.

Teamwork.

Teamwork.

how did growing up in Colorado Springs switch?

Back in the day was like one of the strongholds of the United States conservative movement, Focus on the family, all of those things like military bases.

Like how do you think that informed where you are like now politically and musically?

Paul I could go on for so long about this.

I think that for me, like I'm really grateful to kind of have had like this very specific Colorado Springs experience where like I grew up in, like even went to New Life for a very short period of time after leaving my parents like alternative spirituality, I rebelled by going to Christianity.

So most currently Colorado Springs.

Shit, you can possibly do.

But I think that like coming out of that too.

I've always been in the restaurant industry and so I've gotten to know all kind of like different people from different cultures.

And so it's created like a different kind of awareness of me to understand.

I mean, like obviously privileged, but then just like perspective, just other people as like situations.

And so I feel really grateful for it, like by the way, that I came up through Colorado Springs.

But what would you say like here.

At Colorado Springs has like a relatively small but like very tight and cool, like progressive music scene, kind of like hipster community.

And because it's relatively small, like for the population of the city, I think it's like much more kind of accepting.

there's not like somebody at a show who kind of is like, you think this one specific thing.

So, you know, my friend is kind of like, we're all kind of in this together.

You're kind of like surrounded by the opposition.

Yeah.

So it's kind of like, hey, like, we might not agree on everything, but like, you play music.

I play music.

We're cool.

It's counterculture.

I mean, and that's that's kind of the thing I feel like, yeah, like you said, like if you're surrounded by the enemy, it's like.

Like you're, you know.

I've been in Denver for 15 years now, and it's like, is the counterculture in Denver even counter?

It's just kind of like, yeah, that's just everyone I see every day, you know, which kind of makes there a lot more like squabbles within the counterculture, you know?

Like out of survival, you are like, link up.

Yeah, okay.

And that was kind of like the crucible out of which you all were born type of.

Thing, I would say.

And it was a lot of like just everybody's going to everybody shows and hanging out and we get a lot less like touring acts down there as there are.

There was a lot more like focus on local shows for a long time and just a good community of like cool people.

Like then I think, yeah, like, like having to rely on each other through, you know, especially in a town like that and having any kind of like a different like, you know, like gender identity, like, you know, I guess anything besides being like us, this like straight Christian person, you get like there is a limited places like to go.

And so I think that, you know, like it's also the scene is protected down there and kind of that way that it's like, you know, like it's small.

We got to watch out for each other.

the last thing I want to just like Stephanie, when you perform, it seems like such a pure expression of freedom and joy.

And I think that's just so important for people to see and feel.

Now.

How do you hold on to that.

Again, I think that like being in those environments so often I'm talking about things that I know I am like so not alone in and so I think that it's, I guess remembering just how not alone I am not falling in to like the shame of anything.

So if I mess up or anything, it's okay.

Like I'm just a person and I can keep going.

And I did miss that many times.

And I do and I will again.

But it is just that remembering that again, this is like an exchange between all of us and that power that those folks are feeling in that moment.

Like like how do we keep that going like, forever?

I mean, like, you know, it's like an exchange.

It's just like, how could I not be joyful even talking about hard things when I'm sharing this experience with so many different people?

cheaper for you.

Thank you all so, so very much.

Thank you all very much.

Thank you.

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I like the way I make my branches.

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In the thick of that She.

Just wasn't there.

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I want to see my daughter and I got a chance to dream about one night and change that Down, down, down.

Bring it down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down.

I found my way, down.

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