Dan Brown, you, first of all, an honor always to talk to you and to be your friend.

I thank you and I appreciate it so much.

It's it's unbelievable.

I was a kid of 14 years old on the front row of your first game against Memphis State, which the Hustlers won 94 to 81.

A big upset.

And I've loved you ever since and cheered for you ever since and for to watch the meteoric rise of LSU basketball, which you did.

Now you just heard.

Carlos Temple, who will be here shortly, I hope, from the Board of Supervisors meeting you heard his words.

What's your reaction to those words immediately?

I applaud him for his courage, for speaking honestly.

But the family he came out of highly educated.

That's the way they were, all the injustices they fought.

I did not know it was even on live.

Somebody called me and told me, and I didn't watch the first two hours where it was.

But.

I my wife was there to both of us, had tears in our eyes that this man had the courage and the honesty to stand up for what he thought was right.

And I think that.

Didn't surprise me.

It's in his genes, you came from a great family.

Coach, you mentioned your wife and we've not had the chance to talk to her, so that's I understand that that's fine.

But I would love for you just to say a word about her and the influence she's had on your life and on your long marriage.

Together, she's been side by side advising you, listening to you with you.

So tell us about the Vontae Brown that we don't know.

62 years she's been married to me now.

I don't know if I could be married to me for 62 years.

She's brilliant.

She's a world renowned man in Budapest, a man in Prague.

My wife are in the folk dance world in that particular area.

She went to Europe 32 times, was president of the National Folk Dance Association.

Does not like publicity.

Is quiet, not like a loud mouth husband is talking all the time.

Patient, a great human being, great woman.

I couldn't.

I couldn't have been blessed.

I can't imagine having anyone better than her for the 62 years of my life.

She must be a great listener.

And advisor, if it's necessary, you just brought up something that I wish I could relive that.

Her wisdom on many things, she told me.

Being my wife.

Some of it I didn't listen to.

She was right, darn near every time, so I hope she gets to see the show.

For example, she really respects you and like you a lot.

She didn't want to be offensive at all, but she doesn't like she didn't wave in the jury and out, not on television all the time.

She just supports me as a as used as a coach.

And so it isn't it isn't unusual for her not to be here.

She doesn't like publicity.

No, I understand that, and we totally respect and love that coach.

Where did your spirit and fight come from?

two days before I was born.

My biological father abandoned my mother and I.

Was 1935 the height of the depression?

She came off a farm uneducated eighth grade.

Couldn't get a job, we had to move into a one room apartment above a bar and a hardware store, no toilet, no bath, no shower, nothing one room.

I never slept in a bed for 21 years.

She had a little bit that pulled out from the wall.

I had a sofa about five foot six.

I could hardly touch her head at night, but it came from her.

And the reason it came from her.

She never, ever talked about the man that left her.

She never complained about her situation.

She had to become a maid and babysit for people for $0.50 an hour.

We had to take the demeaning thing of Ward County Welfare getting $42.50 a month.

But where I learned from my mother or two paramount things two times in the middle of winter.

I saw she come home and she did these brown paper sacks and take her coat off, and then she'd cross off the piece of the bread, the milk, the very seldom meat just to make sure she got everything.

two times I said, I'll go get her coat.

Where are you going, mama?

Oh, the lady in the rent gave me a quarter too much.

I've got to take it back to her another time $0.40.

Also where I think it happened.

I came home.

For soup at lunch, a little boy, ten years old school, just a few blocks away sitting there with her was a welfare worker.

My mother was, I could tell.

Frustrated.

I'm sitting there looking at him.

She's, you know, Mrs Brown.

She said Ward County Welfare gives you $42.50 a month, and last month you spent $13 on.

Did you tell us I didn't know what it was.

It was a hard medicine.

And she said, What do you do with him to get your purse if she's making my mother cry?

And I was sitting there watching this?

My mother went and got her purse.

She took her purse and went through it.

She said, Can't he like, I'm a dog?

Can't he?

Can't he help you?

She's well, he does have.

She was ready to cry.

He does have a paper job, you know, sells papers.

Well, I'm telling you, you got to get.

And I remember sitting there looking at that woman and I said to myself, Never again, as long as I live well, if I see any injustice, I'm going to stand up for it.

Then the next thing?

one day after school, she sat me down, she told me that the landlady came down and complained that you're scuffing the hall up the linoleum in the hall.

We didn't have a basket, so I take gloves and shoot the hot water plates.

And she said she said that brandy, or if he does that again, she said, You're going to get kicked out of here.

We had to find a place.

Dale, what are we going to do here again?

She's being intimidated.

So I go down the hall for security, block and knock on the door.

Show me this little pickle and I see you leave my mother alone.

Do you understand?

You leave her alone and I walk down the hall scuffing up the linoleum as hard as I could.

Final thing.

Here's what else I learned.

Edgar Guest is my favorite poet.

My mother lived this life.

I wish I could be like her and John Wooden and not a work in progress.

I still emit 86, he said.

I'd rather see a lesson than to hear one any day.

I'd rather you walk with me than to merely show the way the eye is a better teacher and more willing than ear.

And the control you are giving may be very fine and true, Andre.

But I'd rather get my examples by observing what you do.

I got it from watching my mother getting beaten up that I was going to stand up for what was right.

Now, if I do.

Been a little smarter, I would sometimes maybe not spoken up all the time.

What made you a.

An equal opportunity person, you.

Loved anybody for what they were, you didn't see color, you didn't see any of the things that you probably encountered once you came to the South and to LSU and other places, perhaps, but you certainly saw that in some places here.

But that doesn't seem to be even an aspect of you.

Is that from her also or where is it from?

Genes that I got from her?

She used to go babysit.

And I'd wait up for.

This one particular night, she came home and we had one chair and she asked me to sit in it.

And she pulled a little footstool up, and she said, Son, I want to tell you something and I want you to listen.

She said.

I'm so self-conscious when these big shots pick me up to go babysit for their children, she said, I go look up big words in the dictionary.

So I can inject them in the conversation.

She said I want them to be distracted that what's your husband do?

What's your grade?

I want to control the conversation.

And she said, Son, that's wrong.

She said, it's wrong because I'm trying to make an impression.

So she said, Dale, what you've got to do in your life?

She said no matter what she said, I'm trying to make an image on those people.

And son, if you spend too much time polishing, erm, each, eventually you'll tarnish your character and be an unhappy man.

You do what you know is right and stand up for it.

I haven't been able to do that.

You do it too and do it for my mother never talked about the man that left her.

one time she was gone.

Looking through her Bible, a letter fell on the floor and it had three or two East Sheen at Oklahoma, Charles Brown when she came home.

I said her mama.

I saw that letter of looking at your Bible.

I didn't read the letter, but who's Charles Brown Sheesha?

That's your father.

I know it isn't that your husband?

She said yes.

What kind of a man is he, mama?

Now, remember he left her in the depression.

She oh, he was a good man, she said.

He worked hard.

She said, You're two older sisters.

You took good care of them.

Was such a good man, mama, why did you leave us?

She said, Well, he found someone else.

He thought he wanted to be with more, never once.

So God bless her.

Did she?

Live to see some of your success.

Here she was on the brink of it.

Oh.

She died six months before I got the job.

Oh, really?

And I wanted so, so desperately to try to give her something back, which I never could.

Except worry, that's all I gave her, probably.

I think he gave her.

I think she gave her a lot back, though.

Coach, you have.

You've always fought as an underdog, perhaps even when you were on top of the world.

You were still had.

Maybe that that aura as being somebody who was a scrapper, a fighter which goes hand-in-hand with what you just told me, but that worked well on the on the basketball court too, didn't it?

I hope so.

I appreciated people for what they were.

My mother had no prejudices whatsoever, and she prejudices a great time saver.

You don't have to make up your mind.

You're just you're you're prejudiced on things.

And to me too, and who's always been for it's not five.

It's not six.

It can't be three.

It's four.

And.

Our situation, you know, I saw.

Her how she had always felt inferior and whatever, and yet I made up in my mind somehow, someway I've got to help mama and.

I probably created many bad moments for two, maybe, but she was an unusual person and I think any good that I have came from her to me a little bit about your family, your daughter Robin, you mentioned your wife.

Just tell me about the brown family just for a moment.

I have one daughter who was born in Minot, North Dakota, but grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, for 25 years.

Much like her mother also has a little of her dad in her she'll stand up for.

She's not intimidated at all.

three grandsons are all college graduates, the last ones at LSU now going to graduate this coming year.

Ran my basketball camp for Dale Brown Enterprises and ran my foundation.

Dale Brown Foundation.

Like your mama?

OK. All right.

one team of the many, many you've coached against, but let me just say the word Kentucky.

What does that stir you?

When I.

Thank God for Carl Maddox, who's one of the most wonderful man I've ever met in my life, the athletic director that hired a no name guy.

But I got the social media guide.

I knew it was in how I show football power and you have you'd have to be dead or or buried someplace.

Hiding did not know who Pistol Pete Maravich was.

And of course, Bob Pettit.

But basketball was not a big deal.

And.

When I came here.

Carl Maddox was the athletic director, and he told me now most coaches wouldn't get this, he said, it's going to take you some time to build up this program.

And I looked in the media guide and Kentucky had won more championships than the rest of the league combined.

Wow.

So the very first meeting we had Jet Show Homer, Drew and myself in Broussard Hall.

I had written on the board our competition, then Kentucky Times, beaten Kentucky one time average loss.

I think they beat him twice, once on the road and once at Kentucky.

Once here, right?

88.

71 in 1971 the year before you correct.

And then a 1959 average loss was about 24.5 points per game at Kentucky.

So boldly.

I wasn't planning to be the white man's Muhammad Ali, but I said there's the competition.

It's not too late.

It's not North.

It's not North Carolina.

It's not Auburn.

They're the king.

We have to set our goals.

Is that?

Well, I think everybody probably left their thinking, this carpetbagger.

He is totally blown out of his mind.

Years later, and this is not trying to be narcissistic what I'm going to tell you.

A former NFL, no AFL NFL football agent sent me an email.

He said, who beat Kentucky more than anybody else in the country?

Well, it was easy.

It had to be North Carolina, UCLA or Indiana, particularly Indiana, which was which was close to Kentucky.

So I guess no.

Bob Knight.

No, I guess Dean Smith, I guess John wouldn't know.

Oh, ray mirrors.

No.

Who?

You l'issue 18 times.

Now I didn't beat them.

Kids, it believed in a system beat him.

And it's still, I believe, the record of.

Wins over Kentucky 18.

There were some great games, yeah, no, some great great games, just say a word now that he's sitting next, you say a word about him, about college temple.

I don't know if you can say one word, but size.

You know me long enough, I can't say one word.

It takes me ten minutes to say Good morning.

College Temple has probably as great a jeans as you can possibly have from way back into history.

And he's if you've met his family, they've got the same genes that were passed down to him.

He's he's a brilliant man.

He's hardworking, he's fair.

He's courageous.

I love the guy.

The few years I had to coach, you might have loved him and have been able to coach him his whole career, but nobody can outwork him.

He was fearless.

And the one thing his wife, if she's watching this, he's never on time.

Right, Mrs. Temple, we we just a moment ago.

Listen to the statement you made to the Board of Supervisors meeting at the very end of it.

Right before the vote, I played it for him to hear again about the name signature on the court.

Sure.

So you've said we've heard what you said about Coach Brown.

Sure, but his father in college at a point in time when he wanted to adjust some of your game, I think and the way you were handling your body is your father said he is your father.

Correct?

Is that right?

Correct.

He has been all along, right?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

A combination of a father and a big brother because I'm only about 14 or 15 years younger than he is.

My oldest sister is twelve years, is twelve years my senior.

So my oldest sister and he are close to the same age.

So I look at the guy.

He's a combination guy.

I call him a combination guy.

He's like a dad, but not quite old enough to be a dad.

If he was 1617, I would have been born around that time.

He's really like an older brother.

So we're like, really, we have a special relationship.

So older brother, that figure.

Yeah, the man who frit friend figure more than that and brother, friend, friend.

Sure.

He makes it impact on a lot of people's lives.

Don't you love talking in the third person now talking about you like he?

Doesn't he make a huge impact on people's tremendous, tremendous impact?

He's a he's what people would consider a world beater.

He's a mover and shaker.

He's a change agent.

He's a motivator.

He's like a bunch of different things, all wrapped up in one for four, for the good of humanity, for the good of humanity.

That's who Coach Brown has been as long as I've known him, which has been 50 years.

You know, he's just a good guy, and we will soon be able to see his signature.

Sure, on the court of that arena.

Right behind you, coach Dale Brown and scheduled for the Kentucky game.

Correct.

January fourth.

And what a night that will be.

It'll be a special time.

It'll be a special time in the annals of LSU athletics.

It'll be a special time and probably in Coach Brown's life because I'm sure he didn't come here to coach in 1973 with the anticipation of his name being branded on the court.

He came to impact the lives of so many and athletes and and maybe move on and go back to North Dakota sooner than later.

But now he's been here for two since 1972.

Sure, sure.

I'm 50 years.

52 years.

And he's made a great impact on a lot of people's lives, more so much more than just basketball guys.

I mean, ladies and men, girls and boys.

He's he's made an impact on a lot of people's lives.

If you could call, if you could track down a guy named Rams at Dada who was a great defensive lineman at LSU.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He he'd explain to you how Coach Brown would not give up on him.

If you would track a young lady that played basketball early on that lives in Seattle, who I just happened to talk to the other day.

She she'll tell you the impact that Coach Brown had on her life.

So say he's a he's a cross.

I don't want to use the word cross-dresser, but he crosses all lines.

He crosses all lanes.

So for women's rights, human rights, men's rights, human rights individuals who are disenfranchized.

He's for the guy, the lady who is the disenfranchized person.

He's a guy who will not give up on people because he's a true humanitarian.

And he's like for the underdog because he he's an underdog, so he's just for the underdog guy.

We mentioned that.

But you know, as soon as I say that, I'm like, Yeah, but he's for he's for that guy, too.

And he's sure that guy.

Sure, every guy.

Sure.

That's right.

And everyone.

That's right.

But most people, most people are what you call front runners.

So everybody is for a guy that's when.

Everybody's sort of got it, has all the money.

Everybody is for the guy who's in first place.

Everybody's for that guy.

Everybody says, Oh, I was for him.

When you know, when he gets finished and he gets the blue ribbon or the all the gold medal, everybody says all I was for him.

But the guy who didn't win, who was for that guy, and that's who Dale is.

He's for, like everybody.

He's for the effort, you know?

You know the effort, right?

The effort, he's for the effort.

So most people are for the winter.

He's for the effort.

Because eventually, if you're for the effort, the effort eventually becomes a winner.

And that's how it works, so give up on it.

Oh yeah, you don't give up, you just keep plugging birthdays.

I'm told you remember players birthdays and call them, is that is that accurate?

They call them, sends them a note.

E mails them all your players?

Yeah, all the players I know are 160 are.

Yeah.

And I try to talk to them on a regular basis, I'm sure, because a lot of what I see them out at Ruth Christmas or somewhere they are like, I'm like, Have you talked to Coach Brown?

Have I talked to him?

I can't get him to stop email.

He said to me, Is he sending me information every day?

Is he's the information, the information.

If he's his own network and he's still trying to figure out why, I don't know how to email and all that kind of stuff I tell him if I email, I'll never stop looking at my phone, I guess, and never stop looking at a computer.

So another email, guy.

No one can outwork this guy.

No one on the court.

No one could outwork him.

He was fearless.

You take on any kind of challenge off the court.

You can't work him.

He has no hours.

Coach.

This airs two days before 2033 for two days before your birthday.

October 31.

Yes.

Yeah.

Holloway and you and Nick Saban, interestingly enough.

Halloween babies.

So happy birthday early.

Thank you, sir.

And we mentioned 86 is the same year of the last final team.

That team that started 14 and over and then had the chicken pox and had all sorts of things happen and then came on at the end.

And it's I'm tickled to death.

I got to let you go.

But it's so thrilling for me to watch you as a kid covered you as a sportscaster, became friends with you when I moved away and remained friends with you since I've been back.

That's that's there are a lot of people too.

I'm, you know, I'm just one of many.

There's so many people that can say that.

But how rare is that comment?

It's very rare.

It's very unique.

But Coach Brown has a way of sticking to you.

He has a way of sticking to you.

You know, he's a special guy when you meet him and a special human being when you meet him.

And he has this capacity to stick to you.

And you know, and then you just move away and you say, Well, who?

Who was that guy?

And I'm going to remember him as kind of like, kind of like a kid I saw on the track running the hurdles.

I guess I don't remember the year, but he was about 16 or 17, and he was working real hard to figure out how to get over these hurdles and get out and get his technique down.

The first time I met, I met him and I said, OK, now what's your name?

He goes, Oh, my name is, is Andre.

I'm like, Andre, like Andre Huber.

He's like, I'm Andre Morrow, OK?

Oh yeah, yeah.

You know, he remember the first time we met?

Yeah, yeah.

Do you really remember?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

How were you?

You know what you were.

You were.

You are you were then.

Yeah, yeah.

Listening to Carlos, who I really deeply love for a combination of reasons.

It reminds me I want to respond to those warm words.

We were sitting John Wooden, myself and the owner of TJ Ribs and Chris at the time, T.J. Moran, having lunch in our ribs had just come.

There's a young man standing over there, maybe 40 years old, and I saw him looking over at Coach Wooden and just as coach was to pick up his ribs.

He came over, excuse me, coach Wooden.

And he said, I don't want your autograph.

I don't want to take a picture.

I don't want to shake your hand.

I just want to tell you this, sir.

He said.

You're a legend of all time.

You're my hero.

And you're one of God's angels.

God bless you.

And he walked away.

Coach put down his rib.

Young man, my bear.

What's your name, young man?

And I would say this to college today.

My reply with nice compliments.

He said.

My name is Carlos Temple.

He said, Carlos, you just made an old man feel real good, just like college did here today.

And he said, but.

I wouldn't want you to leave here under false pretenses or who I really am and what he said, that I like who he really is.

He's the greatest male I've ever met in my life, he said.

So I want you to know, he said.

I'm not what I ought to be.

I'm not what I could be and I'm not what I should be.

But I'm sure glad I'm not what I used to be.

And you have stimulated me to be a better man.

Thank you.

I thought, Wow, that's how I reply to Collins's comments.

That is pretty good, pretty good.

All right.

Yeah, thank you.

That's a great way to end it.