>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>> WOW.

>> HEY, THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOKS ABOUT GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

SEASONS GREETINGS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT AND WE'RE GOING TO INVITE YOU TO JOIN US OCTOBER THE 1st FOR A DONNYBASH.

WHAT A GREAT HOLIDAY GIFT THAT WILL BE.

SHE'S BACK, THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF AND THE NEWS DIRECTOR FOR KTRS, WENDY WIESE.

ALONG WITH ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS, MR.

BILL McCLELLAN FROM THE POST-DISPATCH.

ANOTHER FOUNDER, HE'S RAY HARTMANN FROM KTRS AND THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

AND FROM THE ST.

LOUIS AMERICAN AND 590 AND 97.1 AND BEYOND, MR.

ALVIN REID, ALSO LOOKING REALLY SPORTING, FESTIVE AND I JUST FORGOT ON THIS THURSDAY NIGHT, RAY, MARLEY CLOSS IS IN TOWN APPEARING ON WASHINGTON AVENUE.

YOU MET HER ONE TIME.

>> I DID MEET HER.

>> SHE'S AN ACCOMPLISHED MODEL AND SOON WASHINGTON AVENUE WILL BE KNOW AS HEIDI CLOSS WAY.

THE TAX CREDIT THAT THE MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER BACKERS ARE LOOKING FOR THE FROM THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED THEY'LL LOOKING FOR 15 MILLIONS THIS YEAR AND 15 THE NEXT.

SHOULD THE STATE GIVE SOCCER IN DOWNTOWN ST.

LOUIS 30 MILLION BUCKS?

>> NO.

>> THANK YOU, RAY.

>> I MEAN, WHY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE THING THAT, YOU KNOW -- I MEAN, I'M ALL OVER US GETTING A MLS TEAM.

THOUGHT THAT WAS A DONE DEAL, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ALWAYS DONE DEAL THAT THE TAYLOR FAMILY, BILLIONAIRES, GOOD FOR THEM, WERE GOING TO BUILD THE TEAM AND AS I SAY, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT.

THEY'RE PART OF A MLS MARKETING DEAL THAT MAKES IT A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THEM, I THINK, AND I HOPE THEY MAKE TONS OF MONEY, BUT WHY DO THEY NEED MONEY FROM THE STATE OF MISSOURI?

AND ONE OTHER THING, EVERY TIME WE GET STADIUM MONEY FROM THE STATE OF MISSOURI, IT LEAVES A MARK AND IT MAKES IT LESS LIKELY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING MORE WORTHWHILE FROM THE STATE.

>> WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT THE LEGISLATURE LOOKS KINDLY TO ST.

LOUIS ANYWAY.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT IF WE GET $15 MILLION FOR THE SOCCER TEAM, THAT THE LEGISLATURE -- IF THEY DIDN'T GIVE US THAT, THE LEGISLATURE WOULD LATER SAY I WANT TO HELP ST.

LOUIS SCHOOLS OR SOMETHING.

THE LEGISLATURE JUST DOESN'T LIKE US.

I THINK THE TAYLORS ARE STILL PAYING THE BULK THEREFORE MONEY AND I SAY IT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY, SO DO THINK THE STATE SHOULD PAY.

>> I AGREE WITH BILL.

THE ONLY PART I DON'T UNDERSTAND, MoDOT IS GOING TO SELL THE LAND TO THE CITY?

IS THAT CORRECT?

THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THE LAND TO THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS?

>> YES.

>> AND THEN IT HAS TO BE DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WILL SELL TO THE MLS TEAM, BUT I AGREE WITH BILL.

YOU CAN'T DO WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE CARDINALS AND, YES, OF COURSE, I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE THE CARDINALS AND THIS IS A MLS TEAM AND IT IS EXCITING AND IT'S NEW, BUT WE'VE ALSO HELPED THE BLUES, THE STATE HAS HELPED THE BLUES, TAXPAYERS HAVE, SO THIS IS A -- TO ME, 15 -- IF IT WERE $30 MILLION ONE YEAR, 30 MILLION THE NEXT YEAR, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE, EH, BUT 15 MILLION AND THEN ANOTHER 15 MILLION.

I'M BEG GENEROUS WITH EVERYBODY -- BEING GENEROUS WITH EVERYBODY'S MONEY, TOO, BUT -- >> I CAN DO THAT TOO.

I WANT A FOOTBALL TEAM.

I'M WITH RAY IN THAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL DONE.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A DONE DEAL AND, TOO, I'M SERIOUSLY -- I'VE SAID I'M WAITING FOR THIS OTHER SHOE TO FALL.

THIS IS A SIZE 8.

THE SIZE 12 IS COMING FROM THE CITY.

IF THEY NEED THIS FROM THE STATE, WHAT'S TO STOP THEM FROM SAYING, HEY, CITY, WE NEED THIS OR HEY, REGION, WE NEED THAT.

IT'S SETTING THE STAGE FOR FINANCIAL DISAPPOINTMENT AND MAYBE IT WON'T COME, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, I JUST -- I THOUGHT IT WAS DONE.

>> I WILL SAY THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S $30 MILLION AND IF YOU READ THE POST-DISPATCH NOVEMBER 24th, THERE WAS A GREAT PIECE BY JESSE BOGAN AND KIRK ERICKSON ON HOW THEY CAN'T FIND $20 MILLION FOR GUYS WHO CAN'T SPEAK AND WEAR HELMETS AND BASH THEIR HEADS AGAINST THE WALL AND THE FLOOR AND WEAR DIAPER.

MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE CARE AND SERVICES FROM THE STATE.

IF YOU GIVE $30 MILLION AS A TAX CREDIT, THAT ACTUALLY COMES OUT OF THE MONEY THAT THE STATE HAS TO SPEND FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.

>> AND LET'S BE CLEAR.

THE WORD "NEED" SHOULD NOT COME UP HERE.

THEY DO NOT NEED THE MONEY.

I KEEP SAYING THIS.

THESE SPORT FRANCHISES ARE GREAT INVESTMENTS, GOOD FOR THEM.

THE DeWITTS PAID $55 MILLION NET IN 1996 FOR A FRANCHISE THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING CLOSE TO 2 BILLION TODAY.

GOOD FOR THEM.

IT'S CAPITALISM, THIS IS AMERICA.

SAME WITH THE BLUES.

THE BLUES HAVE PROBABLY QUADRUPLED THEIR INVESTMENT IN TEN YEARS, BUT THEY DO NOT NEED TAXPAYERS' MONEY.

>> LET'S JUST STOP ALL THE CORPORATE WELFARE ALTOGETHER.

>> THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

>> THEY DON'T NEED IT, BUT LET'S NOT SAY YES TO THE CARDINALS, YES TO THE BLUES, YES TO THIS CORPORATION -- >> I KEEP SAYING NO TO ALL OF THEM.

>> YES TO THIS CORPORATION, BUT NO TO THE -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> YOU'RE SAYING NO, BUT YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THE KITTY.

>> WELL, I WAS NO ON THIS, I WAS NO ON 17 MILLION -- >> CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CONSISTENCE CIRCUMSTANCE BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE MLS -- CONSISTENCY, BUT I DON'T THINK THE MLS TEAM SHOULD BE PENALIZED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS LARGE DEBT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> I THINK YOU CAN SAY YES TO YOU AND NO TO YOU AND I'M LOOKING AT -- LIKE I SAY, THE SOCCER STADIUM, HOW MUCH IS IT BRINGING IN AS OPPOSED TO THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE ARE WORTH SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS?

>> WELL STATED, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC.

BILL McCLELLAN, METROLINK, TAULBY ROACH, THE CEO THERE, ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE GOING TO BE FUNNELING PEOPLE WHO RIDE METROLINK I GUESS THROUGH ONE GATE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO SHOW A TICKET.

RIGHT NOW SINCE METROLINK OPENED IN 1994, WE'VE HAD THE HONOR SYSTEM.

YOU BUY A TICKET, YOU GO ON THE TRAIN AND THEN THEY CHECK FOR TICKS WHILE ON THE TRAIN.

NOW, TO GET ON THE TRAPE, YOU HAVE TO PASS -- GET ON THE TRAIN, YOU HAVE TO PASS THROUGH ONE POINT AND SHOW YOU HAVE THE TICKET.

I'M JUST THINKING, HMM, THAT'S A NOVEL IDEA THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, DON'T YOU THINK?

ARE YOU SURPRISED THEY'RE DOING THIS?

>> YEAH, AND GOOD FOR THEM.

I'M GLAD THEY'RE DOING IT, BUT FOR YEARS AND YEARS, CRITICS HAVE SAID WE NEED A TURNSTILE OPERATION, AND METROLINK HAS SAID, RIDICULOUS.

WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE SAYING, WELL NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT EXCEPT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CALL IT A TURNSTILE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, INSTEAD IT'S A FUNNEL.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO GOOD FOR THEM THAT THEY'RE DOING IT.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE TICKETS TO GET ON METROLINK.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE 100 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE STUDY THE GOT BEAT UP ON ON THE SHOW SAYING IT WAS A BIG DEAL.

>> YOU REALLY NEED TO GET OVER THINGS.

>> NO, I'M JUST SAYING I GOT BEAT UP DEFENDING, OH, IT WAS A STUDY -- I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF STUFF IN THE STUDY WAS COMMON SENSE STUFF.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

IT'S NOT A TURNSTILE -- >> SO WE NEEDED A PROFESSOR FROM NEW YORK TO TAKE A $100,000 STUDY TO TELL US TO SHOW A TICKET BEFORE YOU GET.

>> WE SHOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED IT, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF IN THE STUDY THAT IS SERIOUS AND ALL I'M SAYING IS IT WAS ONE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE DOING.

>> I'M STILL CONFUSED ON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE A TURNSTILE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A FUNNEL.

>> BECAUSE IT'S A CONCEPT, THE TURNSTILE SYSTEM, A LOT OF THEM ARE BUILT -- YOU HAVE A WHOLE RANGE OF HALF DOZEN -- >> THEY'RE ALL FUN NELT INTO THIS LITTLE AREA.

>> WE TOOK THE METRO FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., OVER THANKSGIVING WEEKEND, AND YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TO HAVE A TICKET TO GO THROUGH THE TURNSTILE TO GET ON THE TRAIN, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TICKET TO GO THROUGH THE TURNSTILE TO GET OUT OF THE SUBWAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> NOW, THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.

WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THE ARTICLE, HE WAS SAYING THAT THIS IS TO -- THIS WILL CUT DOWN ON THE BAD BEHAVIOR AND THE PETTY CRIMES.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CARES ABOUT THE BAD BEHAVIOR SO MUCH AS WE DO ABOUT THE GUNS THAT ARE KILLING -- THAT KILL PEOPLE.

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> WELL, SURE, BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT GUNS.

>> AND THE KEY IS IF YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY SET PATTERN LIKE THAT, NOW WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE AND A WHAT YOU HAD ON AND THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM.

I THINK THAT WILL CUT DOWN ON PEOPLE COMING ON THERE TO SHOOT OR MAIM SOMEBODY.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION, ALVIN, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING.

DON'T GO FEW FAR.

THE BUSINESS LEADER TOLD DAVID NICKLAUS OF THE ST.

LOUIS POST-DISPATCH SAID THEY CAN'T LURE WORKERS HERE, AND THEY SAID IN CHICAGO THEY CAN GET THINGS TOGETHER WHICH CAN'T BE DONE HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOO MANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES IN ST.

LOUIS VERSUS CHICAGO AND IN GENERAL, THE CONSTRUCTION LEADERS BEMOAN THE FACT WE'RE NOT GROWING IN POPULATION OR JOBS.

>> I'M NOT BUYING ANY OF IT.

THIS IS A HANDOUT.

IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T GIVE US WHAT WE NEED TO PROSPER AND IN A BIZARRO WAY, THIS IS TRICKLE DOWN NONSENSE.

THE MORE MONEY I MAKE, THE BETTER YOU'LL BE.

I'M NOT SIGNING ON TO THAT.

BOB CLARK SAID THERE'S MORE DIVERSITY IN ST.

LOUIS THAN THERE IS IN CHICAGO, I'M DEFINITELY NOT BUYING THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THIS IS COMING FROM.

>> CLARK SHOULD KNOW.

HIS HEADQUARTERS IS IN CHICAGO NOW.

>> THAT'S FINE, BUT WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY.

THEY HAVE NOT ALLOWED BLACK PEOPLE MAKING $500,000 A YEAR AND OWNING PAR OF THE COMPANY?

YOU GOT THAT, MORE POWER TO THEM, BUT DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING IN CHICAGO IS LESS DIVERSE THAN HERE.

>> WAS ARCO CONSTRUCTION THE ONE THAT DOES 90% OF ITS BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE ST.

LOUIS AREA AND IS WORTH, WHAT, 4 OR $5 BILLION?

>> OR McCARTHY.

>> MAYBE IT WAS.

I AGREE WITH YOU TO A POINT.

I KNOW WE HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.

MAYBE WE CAN TAKE IT UP WHEN WE COME BACK.

>> WE HAVE TIME.

GO AHEAD, MAKE YOUR POINT.

>> I THINK THAT THEY CERTAINLY -- IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A HANDOUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE ARE TRULY SUCCESSFUL, CONCRETE CARTEL MEMBERS AND THEY LOVE THIS CITY, NOT ENOUGH TO STAY SOME OF THEM, BUT -- >> YEAH.

>> BUT THEY'RE SAYING IF WE DO MAKE IT TOO DIFFICULT TO CROSS THE T'S, TO DOT THE I'S, TO GET THOSE THINGS UNDER WAY, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD LISTEN TO THEM.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 62 CRANES AS OPPOSED TO ONE OR TWO HERE AND THERE.

>> FELLOW PARKWAY GUY, BOB CLARK, AND HE'S THE GUY WHO STEPPED UP TO THE EXTENT, STEPPED UP ON THE LOOP TROLLEY, BUT BOB IS A GREAT GUY AND I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THEIR MESSAGE.

THEIR MESSAGE REALLY WASN'T ABOUT GIVING THEM A HANDOUT.

IT WAS COMPLAINING, I THINK, ABOUT THE FACT THAT, WHAT THE REAL TAKEAWAY WAS IS THAT WE'RE TRIBAL.

WE HAVE THIS -- WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGIONALISM.

WE HAVE LIKE 23 PORT AUTHORITY TOP AND 42 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.

WE NEED MORE CONCISE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

>> MAYBE WE CAN PICK UP FROM THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO ASK YOU TO JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH, OUR BIG FUNDRAISER, A LOT OF FUN.

HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

>> CAN YOU BELIEVE WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO WRAP UP OUR 33rd SEASON OF DONNYBROOK RIGHT HERE ON THE NINE NETWORK?

HI, I'M MARY ANN CARSON AND I GUESS A LOT OF US DO AGREE THAT THIS PROGRAM MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

WE HOPE THAT YOU STAY WITH US BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL WAYS FOR YOU TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE NINE NETWORK AND SUPPORT DONNYBROOK FOR YET ANOTHER SEASON.

ALSO RIGHT NOW, THE SPECIAL FOR DONNYBROOK TONIGHT, WE HAVE A $3,000 MEMBER CHALLENGE GRANT.

WE WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS, A VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO DONORS WHO ARE MAKING THE CHALLENGE POSSIBLE.

THE CHALLENGE GRANT WILL MATCH YOUR GIFTS DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR UP TO $3,000 DURING TONIGHT'S DONNYBROOK EPISODE.

SO PLEASE CALL US NOW TO HELP US REACH THIS CHALLENGE TONIGHT.

AND THANKS TO THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE MAKING THIS CHALLENGE POSSIBLE.

NOW, OF COURSE, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY ON YOUR HOLIDAY GIFT LIST THAT MAY BE A LITTLE HARD TO SHOP FOR, AND DON'T WE ALL KNOW SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL WAY THAT YOU CAN GIFT THEM DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, AND THAT IS WITH TICKETS TO DONNYBASH WHICH IS GOING TO BE GOING ON ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR.

IT'S ONLY HELD NOW JUST ONCE ANNUALLY, AND THE FALL DATE IN 2020 HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S $5, AN ONGOING MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION, THAT YOU KNOW YOU'LL RECEIVE ONE TICKET TO DONNYBASH, TWO TICKETS AT $10 PER MONTH, AND THE BEST DEAL OF ALL IS WHEN YOU BECOME A SUSTAINING MEMBER AT JUST $15 A MONTH.

MAKE THAT $12 A MONTH BECAUSE AT $12 A MONTH, YOU GET TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH, PLUS YOU ALSO GET THE DONNYBRICK, WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND VERY POPULAR WITH A LOT OF OUR VIEWERS.

SPEAKING OF POPULAR, LET'S GO OVER TO OUR STUDIO NEXT DOOR AND JOIN MY GOOD FRIEND WILL SHAW AND THE FOLKS FROM DONNYBROOK RIGHT NOW.

>> THANK YOU, MARY ANN.

I AM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE DONNYBROOK FOLKS.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

I'M RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

AND YOU CAN BE IN MY SPOT IF YOU BECOME A MEMBER TONIGHT AND GET TICKETS TO THE DONNYBASH COMING UP ON OCTOBER 1st.

AND RUB ELBOWS WITH THESE GUYS, JUST LIKE I'M DOING RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY GREAT.

I HAVE REALLY MADE IT.

ALL MY OLD HIGH SCHOOL FOLKS SAY, OH MAN, WE DIDN'T THINK HE'D GO THAT FAR, YOU KNOW.

>> OH, STOP IT!

>> BUT HERE WE ARE.

SO HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

>> HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS?

I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE HAVING PEOPLE COME TO THE DONNYBASH.

>> WE'RE ALREADY READY FOR NEXT -- OCTOBER 1st.

>> 2020.

>> COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS.

>> AND WHEN YOU JOIN, YOU CAN JOIN US AT THE $5 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP LEVEL AND YOU CAN CHOOSE THE DONNYBASH IF YOU LIKE AND WHEN YOU DO, WE'LL SEND YOU ONE OF THESE AND SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO REALLY MAKE HAY WITH SOMEBODY, HERE'S A GIFT WITH THEM AND THEY CAN BE YOUR GUEST AT THE DONNYBASH ON OCTOBER 1st.

DON'T FORGET THAT WE HAVE A $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT GOING ON DURING THIS BROADCAST TONIGHT.

THEY WILL MATCH YOUR DONATION, YOUR MEMBERSHIP, UP TO $3,000.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT, DON'T WE, FELLOWS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE DO.

>> BUT IT'S ALWAYS TRUE, IT'S A GREAT GIFT FOR THE HOLIDAYS FOR SOMEONE ON YOUR SHOPPING LIST.

LET'S FACE IT, EVERYBODY HAS ATTIC OR BASEMENT FULL OF STUFF, OR YOUR STORAGE ROOM OR WHATEVER, AND THIS IS AN EXPERIENCE LIKE NO OTHER.

>> IT'S A STOCKING STUFFER.

PUT IT IN YOUR SOCK.

>> IT IS, AND WE'RE ALWAYS SO SURPRISED BY THE NUMBER OF HUSBANDS WHO GIVE DONNYBASH TO THEIR WIVES AND WIVES GIVE DONNYBASH TO THEIR HUSBANDS BECAUSE IT'S DESTINATION VIEWING FOR THEM ON THURSDAY.

NOT ONLY CHRISTMAS AND THE HOLIDAY SEASON OR HANUKKAH, BUT ANNIVERSARIES.

I MEAN, THEY ACTUALLY GIVE DONNYBASH AS AN ANNIVERSARY PRESENT.

>> AND AS CRAZY AS IT SOUNDS, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, OCTOBER THE 1st, YOU CAN SAY THIS WAS A CHRISTMAS GIFT.

IT'S A GIFT TO CHANNEL 9 ALL YEAR LONG BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SUSTAINING US AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH MATCHING GIFTS TONIGHT.

>> YOU'RE DOUBLING THE MONEY TONIGHT.

>> THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1st, WON'T GET HERE QUICKLY -- >> IT WILL BE HERE TOMORROW.

>> IT WILL BE HERE TOMORROW, RIGHT.

>> THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO GIVE TO PUBLIC TV.

>> YES, IT IS.

>> ESPECIALLY THE STATION.

I WAS JUST WALKING THE HALLWAYS HERE AND SEEING FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN AT CHANNEL 9 THROUGH THE YEARS FROM JIM HENSTON TO ARTHUR HOLLY COMPTON.

STEVE MARTIN ACTUALLY PERFORMED A NEW YEAR'S EVE CONCERT LIVE ONE TIME.

BILL McCLELLAN, I FORGOT THE -- >> I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THAT NOBEL PRIZE PHYSICISTS YOU NAMED OFF A MINUTE AGO.

>> WE USED TO HAVE NOBEL WINNERS WALKING THESE HALLWAYS AND NOW THEY GOT US.

>> BUT YOU DRAW THE CROWD.

BUT EVERYBODY IN THE AREA KNOWS THE DONNYBROOK PEOPLE.

>> WE HAVEN'T BEEN CONFUSED WITH -- >> NO, NO, IT'S ALL RELATIVE.

>> SERIOUSLY, ONE THING, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT HOW POLARIZED AND HOW DIVIDED THE COUNTRY IS AND SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL DO, YOU REALLY DO, YOU KNOW, KEEP CIVIL DISCOURSE ALIVE.

I MEAN, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE BUT HERE, BUT YOU REALLY DO THAT.

>> JUST ON THE SET.

>> THEN WE GO TO OUR TRAILERS AND WE DON'T -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] [ LAUGHTER ] >> YEAH, IT'S THAT WHOLE METROLINK STUDY.

WE WON'T LET IT GO.

WE WON'T LET IT GO.

>> TALK TO ME.

>> I KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN YOU OFF CAMERA AND YOU GUYS ARE GOOD FRIENDS AND GREAT HOSTS FOR THE SHOW.

IT'S TIME FOR US TO GO BACK OVER TO MARY ANN, BUT WE'LL BE BACK WITH THE DONNYBASH FOLKS IN JUST A MOMENT.

>> THANK YOU, WILL, AND THAT IS A GREAT TIME TO REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN OF THIS VERY SPECIAL EVENING, PARTICULARLY ABOUT DONNYBROOK.

BECAUSE TONIGHT WE HAVE A $3,000 MEMBER CHALLENGE GRANT AND WE WANT TO GIVE A REALLY SPECIAL THANKS TO THESE DONORS MAKING THIS CHALLENGE POSSIBLE.

WHAT THIS CHALLENGE GRANT WILL DO IS THEY WILL MATCH YOUR GIFT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR UP TO $3,000 DURING TONIGHT'S DONNYBROOK EPISODE.

SO PLEASE CALL US RIGHT NOW TO HELP US REACH THIS CHALLENGE TONIGHT.

AND WHEN YOU BECOME A SUSTAINING MEMBER OF THE NINE NETWORK AT $5 A MONTH, YOU'VE GOT YOUR CHOICE.

YOU CAN EITHER HAVE THE TO BENY BRICK OR YOU CAN HAVE -- DONNYBRICK OR YOU CAN HAVE ONE TICKET TO DONNYBASH, WHICH IS ON OCTOBER 1st OF THIS COMING YEAR, 2020.

THE BEST DEAL, THOUGH, IS WHEN YOU JOIN US AT $12 A MONTH AS A SUSTAINING MEMBER, YOU'LL RECEIVE THE DONNYBRICK, TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH AT SHELDON CONCERT HALL, WONDERFUL VENUE.

WE KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A GREAT TIME.

IF YOU THINK DONNYBROOK IS FUN TO WATCH ON TV, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE MISSING, SO GIVE US A CALL RIGHT NOW OR JOIN US ONLINE AT NINENET.ORG.

THAT'S N-I-N-E-NET.ORG.

>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AND WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON THIS DONNYBROOK WITH WENDY WIESE.

BY THE WAY, I ENJOYED YOUR WORK EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH DON MARSH.

THE TWO OF YOU WORKED TOGETHER MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

>> IT WAS GREAT TO BE WITH HIM AND SEE HIM AND HE LOOKED GREAT.

HE REALLY DID.

HE LOOKED TERRIFIC.

>> A COUPLE OF BROADCAST PROS.

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN WEST COUNTY.

YOU KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT THAT PART OF OUR AREA.

MAYBE NOT JUST WEST COUNTY, BUT SOUTH COUNTY AND POSSIBLY NORTH COUNTY AND THAT'S THE DEER.

APPARENTLY THERE'S SO MANY DEER THAT A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE ST.

LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE WITH BOWS AND ARROWS TO GO INTO OUR PARKS, KEEP EVERYBODY ELSE OUT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HUNT THE DEER.

THEY'LL CULL THE DEER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PLAN TO TURN THE VENISON OVER TO MEAT, BUT BECAUSE THE DEER ARE EATING OUR SHRUBS, WE SHOULD KYLE-- SHOULD KILL THEM?

>> I THINK IF THERE'S ENOUGH OF AN OVERPOPULATION ISSUE FROM WHAT I AM TOLD, AND I HAVE SEEN BAMBI AND I HAVE CRIED WHEN BAMBI'S MOTHER IS KILLED LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING PRETTY ABOUT STARVATION AND DISEASE.

AND IF THAT -- YOU KNOW, THE VERBIAGE THERE ABOUT EATING OUR SHRUBS, THAT IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE I -- WE SHARE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LOVELY DEER FAMILIES WHO ARE EVERYWHERE, AND WE'RE USED TO IT, BUT IT IS -- IT IS AN OVERPOPULATION ISSUE, AND I THINK THAT BOW AND ARROW -- IT SOUNDS SO BRUTAL, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS MORE BRUTAL TO WATCH THEM STARVE OR TO BE -- YOU KNOW, TO DIE A SLOW DEATH IF THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF DISEASE AND THIS IS ALL MAKING ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT NOW -- >> ISN'T IT A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, TOO, THOUGH?

I READ DON HOFFMAN'S EXCELLENT, UNAUTHORIZED.

>> WEST COUNTY, YEAH.

>> AND DON IS ALWAYS POINTING OUT THAT ACCIDENT WITH CARS AND DEERS.

I'M NOT OUT THERE MUCH, SO I DON'T NO IDEA WHETHER IT'S -- IF PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY RUNNING INTO THESE DEER -- >> AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND IT IS DEFINITELY BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE, AND THESE -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- I THINK THERE'S A SENSE THAT PEOPLE WITH BOWS AND ARROWS AND YOU THINK THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A COOLER FULL OF BEER AND JUST A BUNCH OF YAYWHO'S, BUT THESE ARE HUNTERS WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

>> WE HAD MARK HARTER ON OUR SHOW AND HE EXPLAINED IT.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M ON BAMBI'S SIDE.

I'M SORRY, I JUST INTO WITH BAMBI INSTINCTIVELY.

I REALLY THINK THE SHRUBBERY ARGUMENT, NOT GREAT, AND I DON'T QUESTION THEIR INTENTIONS.

I HAVE A PLAN.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOAD THEM IN TRUCKS AND TRANSPORT THEM TO THE RURAL AREAS AND I KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

WE HAVE STAN KROENKE PAY FOR IT OUT OF THE NFL SETTLEMENT BECAUSE HE RELOCATED THE RAMS, HE CAN RELOCATE THE DEER.

HE RELOCATED THE RAMS, HE CAN RELOCATE THE DEER.

>> TO GET RID OF THEM, THEY SHOULD PLAY YOUR RADIO PROGRAM WITH JAY CANTSLER.

>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

THERE IS A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT.

THE BAD THING IS YOU CAN'T SHOOT THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE HAVING GUNSHOTS IN -- WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH, IT AIN'T GREAT, BUT I -- YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO SEE IF THEY HAD AN ALTERNATIVE.

>> I THINK IF YOU TOOK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WERE IN AN ACCIDENT OR THOSE OF US WHO, LIKE, EARLIER THIS SUMMER, I'M OUT IN IN THE DRIVEWAY WITH THE DOGS AND I LOOK UP AND DEER TEN FEET IN FRONT OF ME AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT EATING THE NEIGHBOR'S FOLIAGE OUT THERE, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I THINK IT IS -- I THINK THEY'RE EATING MY ROSES PROBABLY.

I REALLY DO.

I THINK IF YOU GO AND ASK PEOPLE WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THESE DEER, THEY'RE EATING OUR SHRUBBERY AND OUR PLANTS.

BECAUSE VERY FEW PEOPLE ACTUALLY HIT A DEER AND I THINK THEY'RE NOT REALLY BEING A NUISANCE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALL STARVING TO DEATH.

I JUST THINK THAT THEY'RE A NUISANCE TO PEOPLE'S YARDS.

>> KEVIN HORRIGAN FAMOUSLY TOLD ME ONCE BECAUSE I WAS CRYING ABOUT THE DEER, HE SAID THEY'RE RATS WITH BEAUTIFUL LONG LEGS, AND I WAS LIKE OH MY GOD, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY.

>> I'VE HEARD OF P.R.

TURNINGS RATS INTO SQUIRRELS, BUT THEY ARE NOT RATS.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO WORK BECAUSE IF YOU ONLY SHOOT THEM IN THE PARK, AND DEER CAN MULTIPLY -- WHAT'S A FEMALE DEER, A DOE?

>> * DOE, A DEER, A FEMALE DEER * >> THEY CAN GIVE BIRTH TO TWO A YEAR AND THE STUDIES SHOW THAT YOU HAVE TO GET 30 TO 40% OF THE POPULATION, KILL 30 TO 40% OF THE POPULATION TO STOP ITS GROWTH AND THAT'S ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO JUST BY GOING TO THE COUNTY PARKS.

WELL, LET'S MOVE ON.

BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT JILL SCHUPP WHO HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN OUR AUDIENCE AT THE NINE NETWORK, SO WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH HER, STATE LAWMAKERS WHO ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT SHE'S GOING TO TAKE TO ANN WAGNER FOR CONGRESS.

SHE'S THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSWOMAN FROM ST.

LOUIS COUNTY AND JILL SCHUPP HAS BEEN IN JEFFERSON CITY, AND SUPPORTERS OF ANN WAGNER APPARENTLY WERE ABLE TO GET THE DOMAIN NAME JILLSCHUPPFORCONGRESS.COM, SO WHEN YOU GO THERE, YOU END UP AT A FUNDRAISING PAGE FOR ANN WAGNER.

>> I THINK THAT'S LOUSY.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW COMMON IT IS AND I'M NOT ON THE INTERNET TRYING TO LOOK THIS STUFF UP, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE TAKING YOUR OPPONENT'S NAME AND, YOU KNOW, USING IT.

I THINK THAT'S JUST DIRT Y AND I DON'T LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK JILL SCHUPP IS A FINE CANDIDATE.

>> I THINK IT SMACKS OF DESPERATION AND WHEN SHE ANNOUNCED SHE WAS GOING TO RUN, THE THEY ACTED LIKE THIS IS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB THAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORTH, AND I FELT LIKE THIS WOMAN IS ACCOMPLISHED AND CAN RAISE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT, THIS IS NOT A SACRIFICIAL LAMB.

THIS SMACKS OF DESPERATION, SO IF I'M JILL SCHUPP, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

JUST GO TO JILLSCHUPP.COM AND I'M NOT DOING A POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENT FOR HER.

I UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH.

EVEN BEFORE NOW, WHAT GOES ON IN POLITICS, YEAH, WE MIGHT THINK IT'S DIRTY, BUT IT'S FAIR PLAY, SO I CAN'T BE MAD AT THEM FOR DOING THAT.

>> AND WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF ANN WAGNER'S CAMPAIGN IS EVEN BEHIND THAT LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE BIT OF TRICKE TRICKERY.

I DON'T LIKE IT, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE OPTICS OF IT.

THE GRECO-ROMAN WRESTLE -- IT'S NOT GRECO ROMAN, IT'S JUST LIKE WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION STUFF.

I THINK ANN WAGNER IS PRETTY SAFE.

>> I DO NOT THINK SHE'S SAFE.

SHE WON BY FIVE OR SIX POINTS IN THE LAST ELECTION TO CORT VAN IS ON STRAND WHO NOBODY HAD HEARD OF.

JILL SCHUPP IS LONG-STANDING -- >> VERY RESPECTED.

>> VERY RESPECTED, SHE WORKS ACROSS THE AISLE.

ONE OF THE FEW DEMOCRATS THAT HAD A HALF DOZEN BILLS WITH HER NAME ON IT THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE AND RIGHT NOW, THE PEOPLE MOST WORRIED IN REPUBLICAN CIRCLES ARE REPRESENTATIVES IN METROPOLITAN DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T CARE ALL ABOUT THE WEBSITE STUFF, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT ANN WAGNER HAS SOME REAL VULNERABILITY ON THE FACT THAT SHE HAS -- CORT VAN IS ON STRAND MADE A BIG POINT AND HAD A BIG SUCCESS TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE WAS NEVER HERE AND NEVER DID TOWN HALLS AND I THINK EVERYBODY REALIZES THE TRUMP FACTOR IS SOMETHING NOBODY CAN PREDICT RIGHT NOW, BUT JILL SCHUPP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEEN A CANDIDATE EARLY, BUT SHE'S THE RIGHT CANDIDATE.

>> WE'VE ARGUED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT SHE IS -- I THINK SHE'S A GOOD CANDIDATE, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT ANN WAGNER, SHE'S BEEN STRONG FOR TRUMP AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP HER AND SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN BIG ON GUNS.

YOU KNOW, GUNS ARE US, AND I DON'T THINK THAT HELPS HER IN THE DISTRICT AND JAMIE ALLMON, REMEMBER WHEN SHE WENT ON THE SHOW TO ANNOUNCE HER LOYALTY TO TRUMP?

>> BUT THIS WAS SO LUKEWARM AND NOT EMBRACING HIM.

>> LUKEWARM?

SHE CALLED FOR HIM TO RESIGN FROM THE TICKET.

>> IT'S AN INTERESTING PHENOMENON WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF BARRY ODOM GETTING SACKED BY YOUR ALMA MATER THIS PAST WEEK?

AND NOW THE BOARD OF CURATORS DON'T LIKE THE LIST OF COACHES PRESENTED TO THEM?

>> I THINK THEY NEED TO MOVE ON FROM BARRY ODOM WHO WAS A CLASS ACT AND TOOK OVER THE PROGRAM AT A HARD TIME AND HE DID AN AMAZING JOB KEEPING THE TEAM TOGETHER WHEN THE NCAA DID ITS PROBATION THING THIS YEAR, BUT PRETTY CLEARLY, THEY HAVE -- AND I HAVE TO SAY, THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WAS REAL CANDID IN HIS COMMENT -- >> SURPRISINGLY.

>> ABOUT THIS IS ABOUT THE MONEY.

WE GOT TO GET THE MONEY, AND SURE ENOUGH, THE INTERESTING NEWS TODAY OUT OF THE BOARD OF CURATORS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK FASCINATING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT SATISFIED THAT THEY'RE NOT SEEING BIG NAMES.

WELL, IF THEY'RE TALKING BIG NAMES, THE THREE MILL THAT THEY WERE PAYING BARRY ODOM AIN'T GOING TO WORK.

THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN THAT.

>> 2 MILLION, WOW.

>> YOU HAVE A CONNECTION NOW, ALVIN, TO MIZZOU?

DID THEY NEED THE $5 MILLION A YEAR FOOTBALL COACH?

>> SO IT'S FUNNY.

MY DAUGHTER THERE COULDN'T CARE LESS.

>> SHE'S LIKE BARRY WHO?

>> MISSOURI NEEDS TO FACE THE FACTS.

IT'S BEEN GOING ON A DECADE NOW, BUT THE REASON THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO MAKE MONEY IS BECAUSE THEY WENT TO THE SEC AND THE BILLS ARE HIGHER AND THE PEOPLE FROM ESPECIALLY KANSAS CITY AND ST.

LOUIS DON'T CARE ABOUT AN ALABAMA OR A GEORGIA OR A MISSISSIPPI STATE.

THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY WANT TO SEE IOWA STATE AND KANSAS EVERY YEAR AND OKLAHOMA AND THEY JUST -- THE INTEREST WAY WANED WHEN THEY MOVED TO THAT CONFERENCE.

>> PLUS THEY'RE NOT PLAYING ALABAMA OR LSU, AUBURN, THEY'RE PLAYING VANDERBILT AND KENTUCKY AND ARKANSAS EVERY YEAR.

AND TENNESSEE, IT ISN'T LIKE WE HAVE THESE POWERHOUSE TEAMS COMING IN.

>> LEAVING THE BIG 12 WAS A HUGE MISTAKE.

>> BUT EVEN THOUGH THE TEAM HAS NOT BEEN DOING THAT WELL, APPLICATIONS ARE UP AND SO IS ENROLLMENT.

>> THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO IT.

>> THAT'S THE UNIVERSITY.

LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT A FRESHMAN MEASURING IN ENGINEERING.

FOOTBALL TEAM, BASKETBALL TEAM, THEY AIN'T GOT NO TIME FOR THAT.

>> IT'S NOT NOTHING TO DO -- YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, IT ONLY CONNECTED TO THE UNIVERSITY -- >> DIDN'T HURT NOTRE DAME.

>> ASK GARY PINKEL AND YOU'RE ILLINI.

>> WELL, THEY LOST AND I SAID TO MY WIFE, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T GRADUATE FROM THERE.

>> SPEAKING OF BIG MONEY, WE NEED IT AND HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GIVE IT.

>> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH DONNYBROOK IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS.

WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE YOU TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE NINE NETWORK AND SUSPEND DONNYBROOK AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ENJOY HERE ON THE NINE NETWORK.

WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL GOING ON RIGHT NOW JUST DURING DONNYBROOK.

WE HAVE A $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT WHICH MEANS THAT EVERY DOLLAR YOU PLEDGE RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO BE MATCHED BY THESE FOLKS UP TO A GRAND TOTAL OF $3,000.

SO WE CAN REALLY MAKE HAY DURING THIS BROADCAST OF DONNYBROOK IF YOU'LL HELP US AND DO YOUR PART AND BECOME A MEMBER.

NOW, JOIN US AT THE $5 A MONTH SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PICK.

IF YOU LIKE, WE'LL SEND YOU A DONNYBRICK.

YOU SEE ONE RIGHT THERE.

IT'S FOAM RUBBER SO IF YOU DO GET MAD WATCHING THE PROGRAM AND WANT TO THROW IT AT THE TELEVISION, GO RIGHT AHEAD, IT WON'T HURT IT.

THAT'S YOURS IF YOU CHOOSE AT THE $5 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP, OR WE'LL SEND YOU ONE TICKET TO DONNYBASH AND THE NEXT ONE IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 1st, 2020.

THAT WILL BE HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.

YOU KNOW HOW FAST TIME PASSES.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S YOURS WITH THE $5 ONGOING MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION.

EITHER THE DONNYBRICK OR ONE TICKET TO COME TO THE DONNYBASH.

NOW, THE BEST ONE OF ALL, OF COURSE, IS THE $12 PER MONTH SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP AND THAT WAY YOU GET TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH AND A DONNYBRICK.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE MESSY DECISIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU GET TWO TICKETS FOR YOU AND WHOEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING ALONG TO DONNYBASH, AND A DONNYBRICK.

BOTH OF THOSE WITH JUST A $12 ONGOING MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION -- MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE NINE NETWORK.

THIS IS WHAT WE'LL SEND YOU, BY THE WAY, IF YOU CHOOSE THE DONNYBASH.

YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO THE PERSON IF THIS IS A GIFT, THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO THE PERSON SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DONNYBASH, AND THEY WILL BE THRILLED.

SPEAKING OF BEING THRILLED, I KNOW MARY ANN CARSON IS THRILLED TO BE SITTING WITH THE DONNYBASH FOLKS, SO LET'S GO OVER AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE UP TO.

>> THIS IS -- I'M TELLING YOU, THE BEST STORIES GO ON RIGHT HERE AT THE TABLE ON DONNYBROOK.

THE VERY, VERY BEST.

>> ALL OF THEM LIBELOUS.

>> I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THE PRODUCTION MEETINGS ARE BETTER THAN THE SHOW.

>> THAT'S -- CAN YOU IMAGINE, OH MY GOSH.

YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES, WHEN PEOPLE GO TO DONNYBASH, IT'S A REAL EYE-OPENER, ISN'T IT?

>> YES, IT IS.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NEVER SEEN A LIVE BROADCAST LIKE THAT, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, THEY TELL US THEY GET SUCH A KICK OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY LOVE WATCHING AND ACTUALLY SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME THE CREW.

I MEAN, WE HAD SUCH A GREAT FLOOR CREW -- >> WE DO HAVE A GREAT -- >> DID EVERYBODY ELSE SEE THIS LITTLE -- OKAY, GOOD.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL FLOOR CREW AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY THERE AND THEY GET TO SEE EVERYBODY DOING THEIR JOB AND THEY GET TO HEAR THE DIRECTOR AND IT'S JUST A LOT OF FUN FOR FOLKS.

>> I WAS TELLING RAY, I THINK YOU GET SOME CAMERA TIME.

THIS IS GOOD.

WE'LL GET A LOT -- GIVE SOME LOVE TO THE CREW.

>> THEY'RE OUR FAVORITE.

>> AND WE LIKE YOU TO SORT OF STAY OVER HERE.

BUT SERIOUSLY, IT'S A GREAT THING AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT BEING PART OF THE NINE NETWORK.

YOU'RE NOT ONLY PART -- THIS STATION IS GREAT AND PBS IS VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR -- >> TRULY.

>> -- NATIONAL LANDSCAPE AND THIS IS -- ST.

LOUIS IS ONE OF THE, IF NOT MAYBE THE BEST OF PBS STATIONS BECAUSE IT REALLY IS VERY PROMINENT.

>> YES, FOR PER CAPITA VIEWING, WE OUTRANK NEW YORK, CHICAGO, ALL OF THE BIG MARKETS.

>> WE REALLY DO.

>> HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY WE GET THIS LENIENCY FROM CORPORATE?

THERE'S THE HEART OF THE SHOW.

>> WE'LL KEEP THEM AROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AS WELL, IF SOMEBODY'S BEEN TO DONNYBASH BEFORE, DON'T BE SHY, COME BACK.

YOU LOVE SEEING REGULARS.

>> WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND WE GET A LOT OF OUR REGULARS LIKE A CARRY VAN FROM GREENSVILLE AND BILL FROM ROCK HILL AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WE SEE EVERY YEAR.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WOULD BE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY TO TELL, BUT A CHUNK OF THE AUDIENCE IS REPEATS.

THEY COME EVERY SINGLE DONNYBASH.

IT IS A -- IT'S A TRADITION.

YOU KNOW, THE GRANDMOTHER WILL COME WITH HER DAUGHTER AND HER GRANDCHILDREN.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY -- >> AND THEN MAKING US ALL FEEL OLDER THAN WE SHOULD BE, THEY WILL INTRODUCE SOMEBODY FROM THEIR FAMILY LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY COULD COME, AND THEY'RE A LOT YOUNGER AND ENJOY THE SHOW AND GOD BLESS YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> AND YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT BECAUSE YOU MEET WITH PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE BEFORE.

>> OH YES.

>> AND AFTER, AND AFTER.

>> AND AFTER.

>> WE HAVE A LITTLE COCKTAIL HOUR BEFOREHAND AND THEN AFTER, SO IT STARTS ABOUT 5:00 IN THE EVENING, MAYBE 5:30, AND I DON'T THINK WE LEAVE TILL MAYBE 9:30, 9:45.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED.

AND THE PARKING IS GREAT AT THE SHELDON.

THERE'S NOT A BAD SEAT IN THE HOUSE.

>> WHAT A WONDERFUL PLACE THE SHELDON IS.

HISTORIC AND -- >> AND THE ACOUSTICS.

THE BAD THING IS THEY CAN HEAR US.

>> IT DOES HAVE A GOOD -- >> IT'S REALLY AN HONOR FOR US TO LOOK OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A HISTORY OF THE SHOW.

>> AND THE ARTISTS, THE REAL ARTISTS WHO HAVE PERFORMED THERE AND PEOPLE WILL WALK THROUGH LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING HERE?

>> GHOSTS UP IN THE RAFTERS GOING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

>> WRONG, WRONG.

>> WE WEAR THE MICS, BUT THOSE ARE FOR TV.

YOU CAN LITERALLY -- SOME PLACES, IF YOU'RE ON STAGE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO YELL.

YOU CAN SPEAK AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY CAN HEAR YOU.

>> AT THE SHELDON, YES.

>> IT'S WONDERFUL.

>> IT IS WONDERFUL.

>> YOU WERE SAYING PHYSICIST, ALBERT EINSTEIN.

>> OH MY.

WE WANT TO GO BACK TO WILL ONCE AGAIN THOUGH.

>> I'VE JUST BEEN TOLD THAT WE ARE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY TO MAKING THAT CHALLENGE GRANT THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT EARLIER.

WE HAVE A $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT FROM THESE SPECIAL FOLKS WHO HAVE MADE THAT POSSIBLE.

EVERY DOLLAR PLEDGED DURING THIS BROADCAST OF DONNYBROOK WILL BE MATCHED DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.

WE'RE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH THAT $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT.

WE HAVE GOT TO GET THERE.

THIS IS URGENT AND WE NEED YOUR HELP RIGHT NOW.

GIVE US A CALL AND BECOME A MEMBER AT THE $5 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PICK.

YOU CAN HAVE EITHER A DONENY BRICK OR IF YOU REFER, ONE TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AND IN PERSON AND THAT'S COMING UP ON OCTOBER 1st, 2020.

I HEARTILY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO THE $12 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP AND THAT WILL GET YOU TWO TICKETS, YOU CAN BRING A FRIEND TO SEE DONNYBASH ON OCTOBER 1st, 2020, AND YOU'LL ALSO GET THE DONNYBRICK.

ALL OF THAT IS YOURS WITH JUST THE $12 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP TO THE NINE NETWORK.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ONCE AGAIN AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN OCTOBER.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN.

BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE LOOP TROLLEY.

THE NUMBERS CAME OUT FOR RIDERSHIP IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, AND NOVEMBER, AND ESSENTIALLY THERE WERE ABOUT A THOUSAND RIDERS IN NOVEMBER AND 4,000 OR SO IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER COMBINED.

SO MAYBE THEY HAD 5,000 RIDERS OVER THREE MONTHS.

IN KANSAS CITY, THEY AVERAGE 5700 RIDERS PER DAY ON THEIR TROLLEY THAT HAS 16 STOPS IN DOWNTOWN KANSAS CITY.

SO IT SEEMS AS IF EVEN WITH ALL THE ATTENTION THE WALL STREET JOURNAL AND DISCUSSION ON DONNYBROOK AND ELSEWHERE, PEOPLE ARE NOT RIDING THE LOOP TROLLEY.

IT COSTS US $53 MILLION, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH IT?

>> WELL, I THINK SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS IDEA DIDN'T WORK AND GIVE A NOD OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO JOE EDWARDS WHO TRIED TO MAKE IT WORK AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE -- SO MUCH HAS WORKED FOR JOE.

GOING BEYOND HIS HOTEL AND EVERYTHING HE'S DONE HAS BEEN GOOD.

THIS WASN'T, AND IT'S NO REFLECTION ON HIM.

I SAY WE OUGHT TO JUST TAKE THIS AND SAY IT'S AN IDEA THAT DIDN'T WORK AND INSTEAD OF THROWING MORE MONEY AFTER IT, JUST DROP THE WHOLE THING.

>> I'M SO GLAD THAT SENATOR WILLIAM PROXMIRE IS NO LONGER DOING THE GOLDEN FLEECE AWARD BECAUSE THIS REALLY WOULD BE RIGHT UP THERE.

WE PREFACED EVERYTHING.

THIS IS HOW REVERED AND BELOVED THIS MAN IS, AND I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF THING -- I WISH THAT WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, INSTANT REPLAY WHERE MAYBE WE'RE THINKING, OKAY, WELL, FROM THE LOOP TO THE HISTORY MUSEUM, IS THAT -- BECAUSE NOW IT'S LIKE YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, 400 -- PROJECTIONS OF 400,000 AND, 5 MAYBE 3, 4, 5,000?

>> YOU CAN'T COMPARE KANSAS CITY'S TO OURS BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE -- >> BUT THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE LOOP TROLLEY WERE 400,000.

>> BUT I'M SAYING IT STARTS AT THE POWER AND LIGHT DISTRICT AND GOES THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND TAKES YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH DOWNTOWN KANSAS CITY.

IT'S VERY -- JUST GETS YOU ALL AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

IT'S COOL.

IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE -- >> WELL PEOPLE WANT TO GO.

THAT'S AN IDEA.

>> AND IT LOOKS LIKE A BULLET.

IT DOES NOT GO THAT FAST, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT LOOKS COOL.

NOW LET'S GET BACK TO ST.

LOUIS.

I'M NOT ONE TO THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD, BUT I STILL THINK BECAUSE THIS HAS SUCH A DEBACLE, THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN A PLAN THAT COULD WORK FOR THE TROLLEY.

NOW, YOU KNOW, GOD BLESS JOE EDWARDS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED, BUT THEY JUST NEED TO BE DISMISSED WITH THE NEXT 100,000 OR WHOEVER GIVES THE MONEY TO IT.

YOU GUYS ARE DONE.

YOU HAVE NO SAY AND WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A PROFIT WITH THE THING OR AT LEAST BREAK EVEN WITHOUT ANY OF YOUR INPUT, WITHOUT ANY OF THAT.

IF THAT'S METRO, YEAH, WHATEVER, BUT -- >> WHO'S GOING TO BE THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY THEN?

>> YEAH, HOW DO YOU BREAK EVEN -- >> I THINK THERE ARE THREE FUNDAMENTAL PARTIES ESSENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD.

ONE IS THE TDD, THE TAX DISTRICT, MANY OF WHICH ARE TROUBLED, BUT THERE'S A TDD THAT GETS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND ACTUALLY HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE LOOP DISTRICT.

THAT'S SOME FUNDING FOR IT.

THE SECOND WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME PRIVATE SECTOR COMPONENT, WHETHER IT'S BOB CLARK AGAIN OR SOMEBODY, HAS TO BE A PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND THE THIRD, BECAUSE IT'S TRANSIT, IS GOING TO HAVE TO SOMEHOW, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT, INTERFACE WITH BI-STATE AND I'M NOT STAYING I GOT SOME GREAT PLAN, BUT THE -- NOT SAYING I GOT SOME GREAT PLAN, BUT THE POINT IS THOSE ARE THE COMPONENTS.

I THINK THE LOOP TROLLEY ASSOCIATION FRANKLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF CREDIBILITY AT THIS POINT.

>> I JUST THINK IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO MAKE IT WORK -- >> YOU HAVE TO TRY.

>> -- FROM BLUEBERRY HILL TO HISTORY MUSEUM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK AND I DON'T THINK THAT BI-STATE OR METROLINK SHOULD BE INVOLVED.

I MEAN, THEY GOT ENOUGH ON THEIR PLATE.

>> DON'T FORGET, AS BILL SAID, METROLINK ALREADY HAS SERVICE FROM THE BOLIVAR AND LINDALL TO STENGER.

THAT'S THE SAME ROUTE AS THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE.

YOU CAN ALREADY TAKE METROLINK FROM THE BOLIVAR STATION UP TO DELMAR AND -- >> THE THEORY IS A CONNECTOR IN FOREST PARK THAT'S -- >> IT'S NOT WORKING.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE MANAGEMENT ALL YOU WANT, RAY.

PEOPLE AREN'T INTERESTED.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU TRY.

>> YOU BETTER REINVENT THE WHEAL.

>> LIKE DON RUBIN SAYS IT WOULD BE A KARAOKE TROLLEY.

>> AND DRINKS AND WHATEVER.

>> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

SO AFTER PEOPLE HAVE TRAVELED -- >> BUT TAKE JOE AND ALL THAT CREW OUT AND GET THE NEW IDEAS.

I'LL ADMIT, I GOT THE PADDLES HERE FOR THE TROLLEY -- >> CLEAR!

>> TO KEEP IT ALIVE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DECLARE IT DEAD JUST YET.

>> I'M CLOSE, I'M CLOSE.

>> I'M WITH ALVIN.

>> THE PATIENT IS GONE.

IT WAS A HEROIC EFFORT TO SAVE HIM.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WENDY, THE LOOP TROLLEY IS NOT DEAD YET, BUT APPARENTLY CULPEPPERS IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS.

IT HAS.

>> YES, LAST NIGHT.

>> AND WE ALSO HEARD ANOTHER ICONIC RESTAURANT WILL HAVE ITS LAST DAY, AND BRENANS, PRANCE NOT ICONIC, BUT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.

>> I THINK THE NAME HURT IT.

>> ACTUALLY, BETH AND I HAD OUR FIRST DATE, IT WAS A BLIND DATE -- SHE OBVIOUSLY WAS BLIND, AT CULPEPPER'S.

>> WE USED TO GO TO CULPEPPER'S EVERY SUNDAY A GROUP OF OUR FRIENDS USED TO GO.

THEY HAD GREAT BLOODY MARYS AND WINGS.

IT MAKES YOU SAD, BUT ESPECIALLY -- CULPEPPER'S HAD A GREAT RUN.

THEY'RE STILL OPEN IN ST.

CHARLES, RIGHT?

THEY HAD 83 YEARS THEY WERE OPEN IN THAT LOCATION?

AND IT IS SAD, BUT IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, ESPECIALLY TO EVERYTHING THERE IS A SEASON, AND TURN TURN TURN OVER, AND THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

I DON'T -- I MEAN, SNIDE HORSED THAT A GREAT RUN.

THINGS CHANGE, PACE CHANGES, EVERYTHING CHANGES.

WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE'RE VERY AVERSE TO CHANGE IN THIS CITY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MEANS ANYTHING.

I REALLY DON'T.

I LOVE -- >> IT WAS PART OF THE CENTER THAT WAS A GREAT CONTRIBUTION FROM REX SINQUEFIELD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM CULPEPPER'S, AT LEAST I DIDN'T SEE -- >> NO, THEY DID NOT MAKE ANY COMMENT.

>> SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF IT WAS JUST THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS.

>> IF THEY JUMPED OR IF THEY WERE PUSHED.

>> IT SEEMS THAT BRENNAN'S IS GOING TO DOUBLE IN SIZE AND STAY IN THE WEST END, BUT IT'S KIND OF CONSPICUOUS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM CULPEPPER'S.

I'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW IF THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE WHEELS OF PROGRESS THING IT.

>> SOUNDED LIKE AN ARCADE GAME PLACE.

>> WE'VE LOST SOME GOOD ONES, AL BAKER'S.

>> GIOVANNI'S NOT LONG AGO.

>> THAT WAS SO LONG AGO.

THAT'S NOT EVEN FAIR.

>> AND BRENNAN'S, WHO'S SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT CAN GO.

BY THE WAY, I BET MY WIFE JUST -- >> SHE OWN A DISCO?

>> NO, I MET HER THERE.

>> NO KIDDING?

>> IT WAS NOT A NICE FANCY RESTAURANT?

>> WHERE WAS IT?

>> SHENANIGAN'S IN LAWRENCE, KANSAS.

>> SOUNDS LIKE A SET-UP.

>> NO, SERIOUSLY.

>> WILL, OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE NEW AND NEXT WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR YOUR LETTERS.

LET'S SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE SHOW TWO WEEKS AGO.

WHY NOT ADD HYPERTECHNOLOGY TO A STRUGGLING LOOP TROLLEY.

IF A HYPERTROLLEY CAN DELIVER HUNGRY FOREST PARK PATRONS TO BLUEBERRY HILL IN UNFOUR SECONDS, EVERYONE WOULD LINE UP TO RIDE.

WHAT THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS IS SAYING TO THE INHERENTLY PUBLIC ST.

LOUIS AIRPORT IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BECOME A RELIGION.

THEN IF IT TRIES TO PRIVATIZE, IT CAN GIVE ITSELF CONVERSION THERAPY.

THAT FROM THE CLEVER FRANK MEDIKA OF MARYVILLE, ILLINOIS.

YOU CAN WRITE US CARE OF KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST.

LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.

DON'T FORGET THE EMAILS, LETTERS@KETC.ORG AND THOSE TWEETS, #DONNYBROOKSTL AND LISTEN TO OUS YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST, APPLE, SPOTIFY, GOOGLE PLAY AND TUNE-IN.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, AND TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE TOPICS THIS WEEK.

WE'LL BE BACK AGAIN NEXT WEEK AND DON'T FORGET TO JOIN US OCTOBER THE 1st FOR DONNYBASH.

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CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY CAPTION ASSOCIATES, LLC www.captionassociates.com >> HOW SUCCESSFUL IS DONNYBROOK BEEN OVER WHAT, 33 SEASONS NOW, AND STILL KEEPS GOING AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR GENEROUS MEMBERSHIP TO THE NINE NETWORK.

AND THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL EVENING, PARTICULARLY DURING THIS DONNYBROOK EPISODE AND LET'S TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY IS THAT.

BECAUSE TONIGHT WE HAVE A $3,000 MEMBER CHALLENGE GRANT.

AND WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THE NAMES OF THE DONORS.

YOU CAN SEE THEM NOW ON YOUR SCREEN.

THOSE ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE MAKING THIS CHALLENGE POSSIBLE.

WE WANT TO THANK THEM AND WHAT THE CHALLENGE GRANT IS GOING TO DO, IT'S GOING TO MATCH YOUR GIFT DOLLARS TO THE NINE NETWORK DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR UP TO $3,000.

THAT MEANS YOUR $5 A MONTH SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP THEN BECOMES $10 A MONTH BECAUSE OF THEIR MATCHING GRANT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR LAST CHANCE TO HELP US MEET THAT CHALLENGE AND THAT GRANT BY THE END OF DONNYBROOK.

SO DON'T LET THIS OPPORTUNITY PASS YOU BY.

MAKE SURE YOU JOIN US RIGHT NOW, THE SUSTAINING MEMBER AT $5 AND GET THE DONNYBRICK AND YOU CAN ALSO GO TO DONNYBASH OCTOBER 1st AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

THE BEST DEAL GOING FOR TICKETS TO DONNYBASH IS WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER AT $12 AS A SUSTAINING MEMBER TO THE NINE NETWORK.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH ON OCTOBER 1st AT SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

YOU'LL ALSO GET THE DONNYBRICK AND AS WE SAID BEFORE, WITH THIS MATCHING GRANT, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, YOUR $12 SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP IS GOING TO BECOME $24 WITH THE MATCHING GRANT.

SO THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO TAKE CARE OF SOMEBODY VERY SPECIAL ON YOUR HOLIDAY GIFT LIST.

SO DON'T WAIT.

GIVE US A CALL RIGHT NOW.

ALL OF THESE MEMBERSHIPS, OF COURSE, COME WITH NINE MAGAZINE FOR THE FULL YEAR OF YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND ALSO YOU WILL HAVE NINE PASSPORT FOR GREAT ACCESS TO THE EXTENSIVE LIBRARY OF WONDERFUL PROGRAMS HERE ON THE NINE NETWORK.

WE HAVE OUR WONDERFUL CREW FROM DONNYBROOK STANDING BY, OVER IN THE OTHER STUDIO, WITH MY VERY GOOD FRIEND WILL SHAW.

LET'S JOIN THEM RIGHT NOW.

>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT AND WE CAN DO IT IF YOU'LL BECOME A MEMBER OF THE NINE NETWORK.

JOIN US AT THAT $12 MONTHLY SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP.

YOU'LL GET TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH, YOU'LL ALSO GET A DONNYBRICK AND YOU'LL GET TO RUB ELBOWS WITH THIS CROWD THAT I'M HANGING AROUND HERE WITH RIGHT NOW.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

THAT'S COMING UP ON OCTOBER THE 1st, 2020, AND THE DONNYBASH IS JUST -- IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT EVENTS THAT THE NINE NETWORK SPONSORS AND YOU GUYS ARE JUST BIG STARS THERE.

PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK.

>> YOU'RE HALF RIGHT.

>> YOU'RE BEING WAY TOO MODEST.

>> IT IS OUR BIG EVENT, THAT'S A FACT, AND IT'S A BIG FUNDRAISER FOR THE YEAR.

WE DON'T ASK FOR MONEY ON OTHER OCCASIONS, REALLY, BUT THIS IS HOW WE'RE FUNDED AND THE NIPE NETWORK.

NOTICE WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMERCIALS, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE, AND THAT'S HOW WE DO IT WITH YOUR SUPPORT.

CHANNEL 9 MAKE THE MONEY AND EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD TIME, SO IT'S WIN-WIN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT IS VERY CASUAL IN TERMS OF MEETING PEOPLE.

WE'RE VERY -- >> YEAH, WE DON'T REALLY DID -- >> YOU JUST WANDER INTO THE CROWD.

>> IT'S VERY CASUAL, BUT WHAT IS REALLY WONDERFUL ABOUT BEING A SUPPORTER OF THE NINE NETWORK IS WITH ALL OF THE WONDERFUL PROGRAMMING, WHETHER IT'S DONNYBROOK, WHETHER IT'S ANY OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS ON THE NINE NETWORK, YOU DON'T WATCH THE SAME WAY AFTER YOU -- AFTER YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PUBLICLY SUPPORTING IT OR AFTER YOU'RE -- YOU KNOW, YOUR FAMILY IS SUPPORTING IT.

IT'S A GOOD FEELING TO WATCH.

I USED TO, BEFORE WE WERE SUPPORTERS OF THE NINE NETWORK, I WOULD WATCH, BUT I THINK I WOULD KIND OF FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE I WASN'T GIVING, AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE PROGRAMS THAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE BENEFITING FROM, ANY OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THE TOPICS, THE IMPORTANT TOPICS THAT ARE ADDRESSED, YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, YOU REALLY DO.

>> AND SHE'S SO RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT PROGRAMS AND I JUST THINK TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THAT.

>> EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

>> AND THEN DONNYBASH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON 50 WEEKS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A YEAR SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE MAIL IT IN, BUT IT IS KIND OF LIKE YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE NIGHT WHERE WE CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE MAKE CHANNEL 9 WHAT IT IS.

AND IT'S SO GLAD TO DO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR TESTIMONY.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RATE.

>> I'M SUPPORTING THE STATION AND WE WANT TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

>> AND IT'S FUN.

I ALWAYS BRING MY GRAND KID.

>> YES, YOU DO.

>> THE HUMAN FEEL.

>> THE RINGERS.

>> WHO CAN PICK ON COACH.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

>> AND THE KIDS HAVE A BLAST.

IT'S ALL FUN.

>> AND RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU JOIN THE NINE NETWORK, WE ARE GOING TO DOUBLE YOUR MONEY.

IF YOU JOIN US AT THE $12 MEMBERSHIP LEVEL, WELL, THAT BECOMES $24 AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE OF THE NICE FOLKS THAT HAVE PUT TOGETHER THIS $3,000 CHALLENGE GRANT.

THEY'RE MATCHING IT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR.

SO WE CAN REALLY MAKE SOME HAY OUT OF THIS.

>> ABSOLUTELY, RIGHT.

>> JUST GET TO THE PHONE.

>> WE MAY HAVE ALREADY RAISED IT.

WE KEEP TRYING.

>> YEAH, WE DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANT HERE, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT ONE THING THAT PEOPLE DO KIND OF TAKE FOR GRANTED IS DONNYBROOK.

HOW LONG HAS IT GOTT BEEN ON NOW?

>> 33 YEARS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, NEXT MONTH IT WILL BE 33 YEARS.

>> ARE YOU THE TWO ONLY TWO ORIGINAL -- >> NO, NO.

>> I WAS TALKING TO THE PHONE YESTERDAY WITH MARK VITTERT, ALONG WITH MARTIN DUGGAN, RICH KOSTER, MARK VITTERT, ONE OF THE -- >> THOSE WERE THE THREE FOUNDERS AND BILL AND I WERE -- >> YOU WERE THE INTERNS.

>> THE INTERNS, YEAH.

>> BUT NO, WE WERE ON FROM THE BEGINNING.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN.

IT'S BEEN A PRETTY GOOD RIDE FOR A COUPLE GUYS FROM THE DAYS OF PRINT JOURNALISM.

>> WELL, STAY HEALTHY, WE NEED ANOTHER 33 YEARS FROM YOU GUYS.

WE NEED TO GO BACK TO MARY ANN AND SHE'LL TELL US ABOUT THE CHALLENGE GRANT.

>> I ABSOLUTELY WILL.

IT'S SO GOOD TO HEAR THE FOLKS FROM DONNYBROOK REMINISCE ABOUT THE MEMORIES AND SHOWS THINK OF HAD FROM YEARS PAST.

THIS IS YOUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MEMBER CHALLENGE AND THE MATCHING DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR THAT THESE FOLKS, YOU SEE THEIR NAMES UP ON THE SCREEN, WE WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO THESE MEMBERS.

THEY'RE GOING TO MATCH YOUR MEMBERSHIP PLEDGE DOLLAR FOR THAT ARE UP TO $3,000, AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

DON'T PASS THIS BY BECAUSE THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY SO THAT YOUR MEMBERSHIP OF $5 A MONTH AS A SUSTAINING, YOU KNOW WHAT?

IT CAN BECOME $10 A MONTH.

GIVE US A CALL RIGHT NOW.