
February 18th, 2022
Season 30 Episode 6 | 28m 16sVideo has Closed Captions
Local topic experts discuss the latest in Colorado politics.
Marianne Goodland, Eric Sondermann, Michael Fields and Julie Reisking discuss the latest in Colorado headlines. Topics include Mesa County's Tina Peters, Denver affordable housing, healthcare whistleblowing and more.
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February 18th, 2022
Season 30 Episode 6 | 28m 16sVideo has Closed Captions
Marianne Goodland, Eric Sondermann, Michael Fields and Julie Reisking discuss the latest in Colorado headlines. Topics include Mesa County's Tina Peters, Denver affordable housing, healthcare whistleblowing and more.
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"WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 18TH," "2022, EDITION OF ""COLORADO" "INSIDE OUT."""
I'M YOUR HOST DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
GOT A GREAT LINE UP TODAY.
AFTER MEETING IN CLOSED SESSION "ON WEDNESDAY THIS WEEK, THE" DOUGLAS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD ANNOUNCED THAT IT WOULD NOT RELEASE THE NAMES OF THE TEACHERS WHO WERE ABSENT ON FEBRUARY 3RD DUE TO POTENTIAL LEGAL AND SAFETY ISSUES.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST ASKING FOR THE NAMES OF THE TEACHERS WHO CALLED IN ABSENT ON THE SAME DAY OF THE PROTESTS AGAINST THE FIRING OF THE SUPERINTENDENT COREY WISE.
THE PERSON WHO FILED THE REQUEST "WAS NOT RELEASED, BUT THE" REQUEST WAS EVENTUALLY RESCINDED.
A COUPLE PEOPLE OUT OF TOWNS.
SWITCH UP THE ORDER.
"ERIC SONDERMANN, YOU GET FIRST" CRACK AT THIS ONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD AN EXPECTATION OF ANOTHER LEVEL OF THIS CIRCLE OUT OF DOUGLAS COUNTY.
I DID NOT HAVE THIS ONE PREDICTED.
>> THE GOOD FOLKS IN BOULDER NEED TO GET BUSY TO BACKING THE NEWSPAPER.
THEY NEED TO DO SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL.
BOULDER HAS BEEN KNOCKED OUT OF THE PAPER BY DOUGLAS COUNTY.
WHETHER IT WAS COMING FROM THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT.
NEITHER SIDE IS IMMUNE FROM THE TEMPTATION.
I WAS GOOD WITH THE DECISION EVEN THOUGH I OPPOSED THE WALK OUT OR STICK OUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
I WAS NOT A FAN OF THE IDEA OF RELEASING THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES.
THE BIG ISSUE THERE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT WHO REFLECTS THEIR PHILOSOPHY AND VALUES.
NOW THAT TATE ANDERSON FIRED UP A LETTER TO DOUGLAS COUNTY "SHAME, SHAME."
THE DENVER SCHOOL BOARD THEY SEND SUSAN THAT PACKING AND BROUGHT A SUPERINTENDENT TO THEIR LIKING.
OPTICS MATTER AND PROCESS MATTER.
YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW OPEN RECORDS AND TRANSPARENCY LAWS.
"SECONDLY, THE OPTICS DO MATTER."
YOU NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME.
TAKE A BREATH HERE.
HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
THEY SEEM TO BE RUSHING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS.
TOTALLY THE WRONG MOVE.
THEY OUGHT TO TAKE A BREATH AND THEN PUT THE SUPERINTENDENT IN PLACE THAT REFLECT THE DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO.
>> IT IS ONE TO HAVE YOU MARY ANN.
THIS WILL BE THE MAJORITY IN DOUGLAS COUNTY FOR FOUR MORE YEARS.
IT IS NOT LIKE IT WILL CHANGE QUICKLY ON THE OTHER END OF IT.
DO YOU THINK THIS MOMENTUM WILL SPEED UP.
IT HAS BEEN FAST.
WILL THAT CONTINUE?
>> I THINK SO.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK BACK AT DOUGLAS COUNTY BACK IN 2017 WHEN YOU HAD THIS BIG FIGHT GOING ON AMONGST THE CONSERVATIVES ON THE BOARD AND A HANDFUL I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU CALL THEM TEACHERS OR WHATEVER.
THEY WERE IN THIS HUGE FIGHT THAT WASN'T IN THE SUPREME COURT.
THE FIRST THING THAT NEW BOARD DID WHEN THE PHILOSOPHY AND IDEOLOGY SWITCH WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I THINK PEOPLE IN DOUGLAS COUNTY GET WORKED UP ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
THEY ARE SUPERINVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES.
I DON'T THINK THIS WILL CHANGE ANY TIME SOON.
">> MICHAEL FIELDS, IT IS GREAT" TO HAVE YOU BACK MICHAEL.
AS WE SAID THIS WILL BE THE MAJORITY FOR FOUR MORE YEARS.
THEY WERE DULY ELECTED.
I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS NOT CLOSE.
BUT DO YOU THINK THE BOARD -- THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WILL ADOPT A SLOWER STRATEGY SEEING THE REACTION THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS?
>> I THINK THEY NEED TO PROVIDE STABILITY.
MY KIDS GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL IN DOUGLAS COUNTY.
I THINK MAKING SURE THEIR "STABILITY, THERE IS A FOCUS ON" ACADEMIC.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR OUR KIDS LEARNING.
ARE GOOD TEACHERS STAYING?
IT NEEDS TO BE FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS.
ARE YOU FOCUSED ON ACADEMICS AND RAISING SOME OF THESE SCORES THAT AREN'T GOOD FOR DOUGLAS COUNTY IN TERMS OF READING AND IN TERMS OF MATH.
I'VE SEEN THESE FIGHTS FOR MANY YEARS.
PEOPLE CREATING CHAOS INSTEAD OF FOCUSING WE ARE HERE TO HAVE KIDS LEARN AND TEACHERS TO TEACH.
I HOPE THAT THINGS CALM DOWN IN DOUGLAS COUNTY.
>> MAKING HER DEBUT IN THIS PROGRAM.
JULIE RISK.
THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.
IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT COUNTY IN THE METRO AREA.
A LOT OF EYES WATCHING BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY WAS INVESTED FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.
DO YOU THINK SOME OF THE CRAZINESS THAT WE ARE SEEING MIGHT BE SEEN IN OTHER COUNTIES?
THIS IS NOT JUST ISOLATED TO DOUGLAS COUNTY.
>> I THINK WE ARE SEEING THAT AT MESA COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE.
I AGREE ABOUT THE STABILITY.
WE ARE PUTTING SO MUCH ON TEACHERS THAT THEY CAN'T TEACH.
IT IS CONFUSING FOR STUDENTS.
WE ARE ALSO DEPRIVING OUR STUDENTS WHEN WE GET HYSTERICAL ON THE POLICIES.
>>> >>> MESA COUNTY BRINGS US ANOTHER PLOT TWIST THIS WEEK.
MESA COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER TINA PETERS ANNOUNCED SHE IS RUNNING FOR COLORADO SECRETARY OF STATE.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT CAME JUST DAYS AFTER PETERS WAS ARRESTED FOR "RESISTING A SEARCH WARRANT, AND" IN THE MIDST OF AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE HER ROLE IN AN ELECTIONS SECURITY BREACH.
SHE JOINS THREE OTHER REPUBLICANS IN THE SECRETARY OF THE STATE RACE.
MARY YOU ARE WELL VERSED IN MANY TOPICS.
WHAT ARE THE REACTIONS YOU SAW THE STATEWIDE RACE?
>> AT THE CAPITAL NOT SO MUCH A REACTION.
LAWMAKERS IN PARTICULAR ARE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THIS AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITAL THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THIS WEEK.
THE EPICS COMMISSION DELAY THEIR ACTION AGAINST HER ON A COMPLAINT TIED TO THIS IMPOSE UP BUSINESS.
WHILE SHE IS DEALING WITH THESE OTHER ISSUES AND TRY TO RETURN FOR SECRETARY OF STATE AT THE SAME TIME SHE NEEDS NOT TO BE DEALING WITH SILVER MATTERS.
THERE IS A GRAND JURY THAT HAS PANELLED.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING RACE WHAT HAPPENS FIRST THE PRIMARY OR HER GETTING INDICTED.
>> MICHAEL THIS IS EITHER A "GREAT, PATTY CALHOUN WOULD BE" TALKING HOW GREAT A GIFT THIS IS FOR HER.
BUT THIS IS EITHER A GREAT GIFT FOR PAM ANDERSON WHO IS RUNNING AS ONE OF THOSE OTHER REPUBLICANS OR JENNA GRISWOLD.
WHO DO YOU THINK REAPS THE GREATEST BENEFIT?
>> REPUBLICAN HAVE A CLEAR PATH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
DO YOU TAKE TINA PETERS WITH HER LEGAL ISSUES?
YOU LIKELY LOSE IF SHE IS NOMINEE.
I THINK JENNA GRISWOLD IS VULNERABLE.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THE POLITICS OUT OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE OFFICE.
SHE HAD A LOT OF TURN OVER IN HER OFFICE.
SHE IS SOMEBODY THAT CAMPS OUT MSMBC.
LET'S MAKE THIS BORING AGAIN.
LET'S MAKE IT BORING AND DO THE JOB.
MAKE SURE ALL THE OTHER JOBS.
I THINK IT WILL BE COMPLETELY ABOUT HER.
I THINK THAT MEANS LIKELY REPUBLICANS WILL LOSE THAT.
I THINK SHE WILL GET THROUGH THE ASSEMBLY.
MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SHE LOSES IN THAT PRIMARY.
>> YOU JUST WROTE HER BUMPER STICKER.
MAKE IT BORING AGAIN.
WELL-DONE.
TINA PETERS IS ONE OF HERO SMALL FACTION BUT LOCAL FACTION.
"GENERALLY AS A STATE, IT IS NOT" A CONSPIRACY.
DOES THAT GENERATE ENOUGH ENERGY OR IS THIS A FLASH IN THE PAST?
>> I DON'T THINK IN COLORADO IT GENERATES ENOUGH ENERGY.
I THINK IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY IT PROBABLY DOES.
I DON'T KNOW MUCH MONEY MIGHT BE COMING FROM PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
I THINK COLORADO VOTERS ARE SICK OF THE POLITICS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DRAMA.
>> YEAH.
IT DOES SEEM LIKE A STATE THAT DOES NOT LIKE THE DRAMA A GOOD POINT.
ERIC AS YOU LOOK AT THIS I DID NOT HAVE A WILD PRIMARY ON MY 2020 BINGO CARD.
DID YOU?
>> I ACTUALLY DID.
I WROTE A COLUMN FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO ON THE SECRETARY RACE ON THE POTENTIAL MATCHUP.
I PREDICTED THAT TINA PETERS WAS LIKELY TO GET INTO THE RACE.
>> WELL DONE.
>> FOR ALL THE TIMES YOU ARE WRONG EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU GET IT RIGHT.
I AGREE THAT THE ODDS ARE THAT PAM ANDERSON WILL SURVIVE THE PRIMARY.
I THINK THE FACTION THAT TINA PETERS SPEAKS TO IS NOT A MAJORITY FACTION OF THE PARTY.
IT MIGHT BE A LARGER FACTION THAN SOME PEOPLE GIVE IT CREDIT FOR.
IT KEEPS THIS CRAZY ISSUE OF ELECTION DENIAL THAT OTHERS ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO AVOID.
THAT HEIDI IS UNABLE TO SKATE AROUND.
IT KEEPS THAT ISSUE FRONT AND "CENTER BETWEEN TINA PETERS, DAVE" "WILLIAMS, OBVIOUSLY LAUREN" BOBERT.
THERE IS AN IRONY HERE THAT PETERS WILL BE ENELIGIBLE TO SERVE AS AN JUDGE.
>> THE IRONIES KEEP STACKING UP ON THIS ONE.
YOU MENTION DIFFERENT FOLKS.
THAT FACTION THAT WANTS TO RECOUNT 2020.
THAT'S COULD BE SPLIT BY DIFFERENT CANDIDATES.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CANDIDATE LOOK TO BE BOARDING AGAIN.
>>> THE DENVER CITY COUNCIL CONTINUED TO DEVELOP THE CITY'S REDISTRICTING MAP WITH THE INPUT OF RESIDENTS THIS WEEK.
"THE CITY GREW BY 115,000 PEOPLE" OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND SEVERAL MAPS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
"MEANWHILE, THE COUNCIL'S" PROPOSED AFFORDABLE HOUSING MANDATES HAVE BEEN MET WITH SCRUTINY BY BUILDER'S GROUPS WHO WARN THAT THE MANDATES COULD DRIVE UP HOUSING COSTS.
"A LOT OF GREAT CITY ISSUES HERE," MICHAEL.
THIS WILL BE AN IMPACT NEXT SPRING.
DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES?
>> I THINK THEY COULD BE.
WE DID THIS AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THE PROCESS GOT MOVED AWAY FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION.
THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
THAT SHOULD GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THERE IS INTEREST WHETHER YOU ARE RUNNING AGAIN OR NOT OR YOU REPRESENTING.
THERE IS EXTRA INTEREST THAT ARE INVOLVED.
A LOT OF MAPS WERE GIVEN BY NORMAL PEOPLE.
SOME CITY COUNCIL ONES.
I DO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTING ISSUES GOING ON.
WE BROUGHT UP HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY.
THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE.
IT NEEDS TO GET ADDRESS AND TACKLED.
YOU ARE MOVING MONEY.
WE WILL GIVE THESE PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF BREAK AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO PLAY MORE.
I DON'T THINK YOU INCREASE THIS ISSUE WITHOUT INCREASING SUPPLY AND MAKING SURE THERE IS NOT AVAILABLE WHERE THESE SMALLER FIXES.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES COMING OUT OF THIS ONE.
WHAT STRIKES YOU THE ISSUES THE CITY IS TAKING ON RIGHT NOW?
>> I THINK IT HAS TO BE HOUSING.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING HASN'T WORKED.
WE HAVE TO HAVE WIDE VARIETY OF STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS HOUSING.
IT HAS TO BE AFFORDABILITY BOTH "MIDDLE CLASS, LOW WAGE, AND NO" WAGE PEOPLE.
WE DO HAVE MORE SUPPLY THAN WE THINK.
WE ARE NOT HOLDING DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SHARING THE BURDEN.
WHEN THEY SAY THE COST WILL GO UP.
THEY ALWAYS SAY THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO COME IN AND HAVE STRONGER GUIDELINES.
HERE IS WHAT COSTS WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE.
HERE IS THE FEES YOU WILL PAY.
THIS IS NOW A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE.
IT IS NO LONGER VERY POOR PEOPLE.
IT IS ABOUT EVERYONE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT.
WHAT WE DO NEED TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY SOME.
WE NEED TO MAXIMIZE THE SUPPLY THAT WE HAVE.
IT HAS TO BE A MULTI-STRATEGY.
THE SOLUTIONS NEED TO HAPPEN QUICKLY.
WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND THIS YEAR.
>> YEAH.
YOU BRING UP AN EXCELLENT POINT ABOUT THAT LOOPHOLE.
BUY YOUR WAY OUT OF IT.
IF THE MARKET IS STILL HOT AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN TACK THAT ON.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO THAT?
IT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT THERE JULIE.
ERIC THIS WILL NOT BE ABOUT CONTENTIONOUS PARTY LINE.
THERE IS MORE DEMOCRAT.
IT IS NOT REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRAT.
THERE WILL STILL BE SOME POLITICAL ARGUMENTS AND POLITICAL RINGLING.
>> HAVE YOU MET AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SECURE THEIR REELECTION A LITTLE BIT MORE.
THERE IS A TON OF INTEREST.
SHE COMMENTED ON A STORY I READ THIS MORNING ONE OF THE MAPS THAT IS OUT THERE THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON BY A NUMBER OF COUNCIL "PEOPLE, I THINK SIX OF THEM JUST" CONVENIENTLY PROTECTS EVERY CITY COUNCIL INCUMBENT.
THE DISTRICTS OUGHT TO MAKE SENSE AS CONTINUOUS AREAS REPRESENTING SOME COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
"NOW, I KNOW ANY POLITICIANS WILL" CONSIDER ME NAIVE FOR SUGGESTING SUGGESTING THAT.
IT IS IMPORTANT ISSUE DENVER HAS GROWN UNEVENLY.
"SOME HAVE EXPLODED, SOME HAVE" BEEN STAGNANT OR SLIGHTLY WALK POPULATION.
SOME DISTRICTS GET MUCH BIGGER.
OTHER DISTRICTS WILL GET SLIGHTLY MORE COMPACT BECAUSE OF THE UNEVEN GROWTH.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THOSE LINES OPEN.
FOR AT LEAST TELLING US LIKE IT IS.
>> MARY IT SEEMS THERE IS A LOT OF SHIFT WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.
I'M GOING WAY BACK ON THIS ONE.
THE DENVER OF MY YOUTH YOU CAN LOOK AT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ONE FLAVOR OR OTHER FOR A LONG TIME.
A LOT HAS GONE OUT.
THE NEIGHBOR THAT WE ARE IN AT FIVE POINTS IS NOTHING WHAT IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.
PROBABLY TEN YEARS FROM NOW IT WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT.
HOW DO YOU THINK THIS WILL HASH OUT?
>> I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE MAPS.
I'M FASCINATED BY COUNCILWOMAN MAP.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE BIG FIGHTS WERE TEN YEARS AGO.
I DON'T SEE THOSE FIGHTS ANY DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS DIFFERENT IS A MUCH SHORTER PROCESS.
AND THE BIG ISSUES BACK THEN WERE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS ETHNIC GROUPS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAB THAT BOTH THE GROUP OF SIX AND COUNCILWOMAN PUT FORWARD.
THEY BOTH DO THE SAME THING.
I FIND REALLY FASCINATING.
THEY DO IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE SPLITS IT ON A VERTICAL LINE AND THE OTHER ON A HORIZONTAL LINE.
"BUT, WHATEVER HAPPENS IN KEEPING" NEIGHBORHOODS CONTINUOUS BOTH OF THOSE MAPS.
I CANNOT SEE THAT IS GOING TO COME OUT AS A POPULAR NOTION.
IT IS ALL NORTH DENVER.
THESE ARE ALL HOW YOU DIVIDE THE NORTH PART OF DENVER.
THE NORTHWEST SIDE THE DISTRICTS REPRESENTED ARE LOOKING TO A LOT OF SHIFTING AND A LOT OF MOVING AROUND OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
DOES THAT WORK?
WE WILL FIND OUT.
>> ONE CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS DOWNTOWN ADVENTURES.
THAT MIGHT GET SPLIT UP OR NOT.
>>> WITH POSITIVITY RATES NOW "BACK TO SINGLE DIGITS, MORE" COLORADO COUNTIES ARE LIFTING "MASK MANDATES, INCLUDING BOULDER" COUNTY.
"MEANWHILE, LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING" TO EXTEND THE PROTECTIONS FOR HEALTH CARE WHISTLE-BLOWERS SO THEY EXTEND BEYOND THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
"JULIE, WE START WITH YOU ON THIS" ONE.
ARE THE MANDATES COMING DOWN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING AROUND THE COVID-19?
>> I'M NOT A DOCTOR.
THE MASK MANDATES ARE HARD TO ENFORCE.
RTD TRIED REALLY HARD.
IT IS UNDER THEIR NOSE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS WORKING.
IN TERMS OF THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION THAT IS SUPPORT IMPORTANT.
WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
IT GETS PUT PUSHED UNDER THE RUG.
YOU DON'T WANT TO WAIT WHEN YOU CAN'T GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
THE SYSTEM IS CLOSE TO BREAKING.
EVERYONE HAS BEEN FIGHTING AROUND COVID AND NOT LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP EVERYTHING GOING.
THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN.
I THINK THAT LOWERING THINGS BASED ON THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE KNOWS ARE WE DONE?
ARE WE IN A BREAK?
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?
EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE MOVING THE END EMIC INSTEAD OF PANDEMIC.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN ADEQUATELY ROBUST PUBLIC HEALTH SYSTEM AND HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE.
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THOSE KINDS OF JOBS NEED NOT TO BE HARASSED OR BULLIED INTO VIOLATING THEIR MEDICAL ETHICS AND LICENSE.
I THINK A LOT IS STILL TO BE KNOWN.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
I HOPE THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE DONE SO BADLY THEY JUST SAY WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS OR THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE .
>> WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
>> SOMEHOW COVID IS NOT DONE WITH US.
I THINK JULIE MADE A NUMBER OF REALLY GOOD SOLID POINTS.
IF I WAS TO WAGE YOUR MONEY I WOULD PUT MY MONEY ON PAUSE.
WHEN IT COMES BACK WITH A NEW "VARIANT, IT WON'T LOOK LIKE IT" DID.
IT IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING.
IT IS MY COLUMN COMING OUT.
I THINK FOR A HUGE CHUNK OF THE POPULATION COMING OUT OF COVID IS ALMOST GOING TO BE A CHALLENGING AS GOING INTO COVID WAS IN MARCH 2020.
AND HOW YOU NOW BEHAVE IN THIS NEW WORLD WITHOUT MASKS OR WHEN YOU WEAR MASKS OR DON'T WEAR MASKS.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A "CHALLENGE FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE."
I THINK ONE PERSON ACCEPTABLE RISK TOLERANCE IS ANOTHER PERSON'S ANXIOUS NIGHTMARE.
HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THAT?
>> DO YOU SEE ANY CHANGES?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
LAST SESSION VIRTURELY NOBODY WAS WEARING MASK.
"THEY ARE REQUIRING OF THE STAFF," THE REPORTERS AND THE LOBBIEST.
THE MINUTE YOU SEE A LAWMAKERS NONE OF THEM ARE WEARING MASKS OR VERY FEW OF THEM.
THEY ARE READY TO BE DONE WITH THIS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME OF THE LEGISLATION THEY ARE RUNNING LIKE THIS BILL THAT YOU BROUGHT UP EARLY ON.
AND THIS BILL REALLY FASCINATING ME.
"WHAT IT DOES, IT ALLOWS ANY" "WORKER, NOT JUST HEALTH CARE" WORKERS NOT BE FIRED BECAUSE OF IT.
AND THE -- IT WENT BACK TO A BILL FROM 2020 THAT WAS ONLY DURING A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY.
ALL THIS DOES YOU CAN DO THIS NO MATTER WHEN.
THIS LAW WOULD STILL BE ENFORCED.
THE BIG QUESTION IS THIS IS GOING TO DRIVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN THE COURTS.
WHEN THE 2020 BILL CAME OUT.
IT HAD A SMALL COST.
"SOMETHING LIKE $270,000."
THE BILL THAT THEY ARE CONTEMPLATING NOW IS THREE TIMES THAT NUMBER.
">> MICHAEL, WRAP IT UP FOR US."
>> I DON'T KNOW THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO SAY AFTER THAT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD MASK MANDATES FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.
I THINK THE CHART SHOWS THEY DIDN'T HAVE WORSE CASES.
I THINK VACCINES ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.
I AGREE WITH GOVERNOR POLIS IF YOU HAVE A REASON TO WEAR A "MASK, GO AHEAD."
GIVING PEOPLE MORE DECISIONS AT THAT POINT KNOWING VACCINES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
"I AGREE WITH ERIC SAYING, WE" THOUGHT IT WAS THE END OF THE PANDEMIC BEFORE AND I WOULDN'T BET THAT IT IS ALL OVER.
>> TIME FOR THE FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW.
ERIC I NEED YOU TO DO DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
>> THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
EVERY OLYMPIC IS KNOWN FOR ONE PARTICULAR SCENE.
THE RUSSIAN 15-YEAR-OLD WHO HAD SOME BLAME WAS SO ILL SERVED BY ALL THE ADULTS AROUND HER WHETHER COACHES OR OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
WHAT A DISASTER.
>> MARY ANN?
>> TO RELEASE THE NAMES OF THE "TEACHERS, YOU CAN GO ON ANY" SCHOOL DISTRICT WEB SITE AND SEE A LIST OF TEACHERS.
PUTTING THIS OUT PUTS THESE PEOPLE IN A POSITION OF BEING HARASSED.
>> MICHAEL?
>> IT IS FIVE WEEKS IN THE SESSION.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
EVERYBODY SAID SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MOVEMENT.
IT IS A DISGRACE THEY HAVEN'T ADDRESS IT.
>> JULIE?
>> WE HEARD ABOUT CHILDREN BEING ARRESTED AND JAILED FOR MINOR OFFENSES FOR LIKE TEN YEARS FOR MINOR THINGS.
IT IS A VIOLATION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES.
>> WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TWO SPORTS I LOVE ARE CURLING AND BIATHOLON.
">> HERE, HERE."
>> MY FRIEND GOING THROUGH HEART TROUBLE.
"JOEY, PLEASE GET WELL SOON."
I KNOW YOUR FUTURE IS LOOKING A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS PERHAPS WHAT IT WAS A YEAR AGO.
WE LOVE YOU.
KEEP FIGHTING.
>> I WILL ECHO THOSE REMARKS.
WE ARE PULLING FOR YOU.
MICHAEL?
>> ONE VISITOR FOR ONE PEOPLE IN HOSPITALS.
BASICALLY NO ONE DIES A LOAN.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD BILL.
THAT IS A GREAT JOB BY THE SENATOR TO DO THAT.
>> JULIE.
>> I AGREE WITH EVERYONE.
I WANT TO GIVE SHOUTOUT TO GIRLS INC. TO SAY KIDS SHOULD NOT PUT IN JAIL.
>> THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE "FOR THIS EDITION OF ""COLORADO" "INSIDE OUT."""
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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