>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO COLORADO INSIDE OUT I'M YOUR HOST KRISTA KAFER.

TONIGHT WE ARE JOINED BY DAVID KOPEL RESEARCH DIRECTOR OF THE INDEPENDENCE INSTITUTE.

ERIC SONDERMANN, DANNY NEWSOME AND WINNER OF BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY AND THE STUDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF RICHLAND.

NEW GUN CONTROL MEASURES BAN ON RIFLES AND INCREASE TO THE MINIMUM AGE TO FIREARM PURPOSES.

WILL THESE MEASURES PASS?

>> AS FAR AS THE COLORADO SUPREME COURT THE RIGHT TO ARMS TO CONSTITUTION HARDLY EXISTS.

PROHIBIT CORPORATE WELFARE AND THE TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS.

UNDER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT DECISION THE TEXT AND THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT ARE WHAT MATTERS.

AND BASED ON THAT APPROACH, ALL THESE LAWS LOOK PRETTY SHAKY.

FOR ONE EXAMPLE THE GUNS THEY WANT TO BAN FIRE AT THE SAME RATE AT A COMMON SEMI PISTOL.

SEMI AUTOMATICS RIFLES OR PISTOLS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE LATE 1880s.

>> ERIC EVERY SINCE THE SHOOTINGS THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BROADENING RED FLAG LAWS.

ARE THERE ANYTHING LEGISLATURE COULD DO THAT COULD IMPACT THE ISSUE OF GUN VIOLENCE?

>> I THINK THERE ARE.

I THINK YOU LISTED SOME OF THEM TODAY.

HE HAS ARGUED CASES IN FRONT OF THE U.S. SUPREME COURT, I HAVEN'T.

MY VIEW IS LET'S TEST THE LIMIT.

I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE COLORADO LEGISLATURE THIS COMING SESSION EVEN THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ALL THE POWER AND HUGE MAJORITY TO PUMP THE BRAKE PEDAL.

IF THEY PUSH SOME OF THESE PRESSURES THROUGH.

IF THEY GO TOO FAR THE COURT WILL SLAP THEM DOWN.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO BOLD STEPS AND BOLD ACTION.

YOU WILL NOT ELIMINATE GUN VIOLENTS THROUGH SINGLE OR MULTIPLE LEGISLATIONS.

BUT YOU CAN IMPROVE THEM.

EVEN THOUGH I ACCEPT THE SECOND AMENDMENT AS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION, MANY WAYS IT IS BEING APPLIED AND INTERRUPTED SUCH DISPARITY WHAT THE FOUNDERS OF 250 YEARS AGO COULD IMAGINE OR ENVISIONED.

>> HOW DO WE PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS?

>> THAT IS AN ODD QUESTION TO ADD ME SINCE I'M WITH ERIC PEDAL TO THE MEDAL.

WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CLUB SHOOTING AND SO MANY OTHER MASSACRES.

THE AURORA THEATER AND OF COURSE, COLUMBINE.

IT IS A MATTER OF MORALITY AND COMMON SENSE.

IF THE LEGISLATURE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE RED FLAG LAW, OR MAKE -- BECAUSE THINK ARE JURISDICTIONS IN COLORADO WHERE YOU HAVE AUTHORITIES WHO REFUSED TO ENFORCE THE RED FLAG LAW.

THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE RED FLAG LAW.

I DON'T OPPOSE A BAN ON ASSAULT GUNS.

I DON'T -- I'M NOT FOR RAISING THE AGE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE ACCESS TO A WEAPON OF WAR PERIOD.

I'M ALL FOR THIS.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PANACIA.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO KILL AND DETERMINED TO KILL WITH A FIREARM, THEY WILL DO IT.

BUT THIS MAY PREVENT SOMETHING.

IF IT CAN PREVENT SOMETHING, I'M ALL FOR IT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD DO.

>> THERE IS A COUPLE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE POTENTIAL.

THE MOST IMPLYING A WAITING PERIOD.

I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

STUDIES HAVE SHOWN US THAT WHEN A SIMILAR POLICY HAVE PAST REQUIRING SOMEONE TO WAIT A FEW DAYS BEFORE THEY PURCHASE A WEAPON IT REDUCED HOMICIDE.

I THINK THAT IS GREAT.

ANOTHER PROPOSAL IS REGULATING GHOST GUNS.

THESE ARE WEAPONS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED IN PIECES ONLINE OR IN PERSON AND ASSEMBLED BY AN INDIVIDUAL.

AND SO IMPLEMENTING MORE REGULATION THERE IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT.

WHETHER OR NOT A BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS IS POSSIBLE OR WHETHER IT WILL PASS THE CONSTITUTIONAL TEST IS HARD TO SAY.

I WOULD URGE THE LEGISLATURE TO FOCUS ON THE WAITING PERIOD AND THE CRACKING DOWN ON GHOST GUNS.

>> GOVERNOR POLIS SAID HIS ADMINISTRATION IS HELPING MIGRANTS BY BUSING THEM.

CONSERVATIVES ARE WONDERING THE GOVERNOR OF COLORADO IS NOT GETTING THE SAME BAD PRESS AS THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS.

WHAT IS THE DISCREPANCY?

>> I THINK THEY CAN EXERCISE SOME DISCRETION.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOVERNOR POLIS AND OTHER AUTHORITIES AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL ARE DOING VERSUS WHAT DESANTOS AND GREG ABBOTT DID FOR SHOW, FOR POLITICAL THEATER.

IT WAS DONE WITHOUT ANY SEMBLANCE FOR COMPASSION FOR HUMAN BEINGS HERE.

IF THESE ARE INDEED PEOPLE WHO USED DENVER AS A WAIT STATION, AS A STOP.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM COLORADO HELPING THEM ALONG.

IT BENEFITS THE STATE BECAUSE OUR RESOURCES ARE SO STRAINED IN THIS REGARD IN TERMS OF CARING CAPACITY WE CAN HELP.

THERE IS THE BIGGER ISSUE OF HOW DO WE GET CONTROL OF OUR BORDER?

HOW DO WE REACH SOME COMPROMISE IN LONG-TERM IMMIGRATION POLICY.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT.

FOR THOUSAND THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ABBOTT AND DESANTOS HAS DONE.

>> EVEN SEW NEW YORK MAYOR ADAMS SAYS HE IS FRUSTRATED WITH WHAT COLORADO IS DOING.

ARE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BEARING THE BRUNT OF THIS MIGRATION PROCESS?

>> RIGHT NOW, CERTAINLY IN THE METRO AREA DENVER IS AND OTHER COUNTIES ARE SAYING THEY CANNOT HANDLE ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A STATE GOVERNMENT OR NOT GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY GOVERNMENT COME UP WITH THE SOLUTION TO THIS.

THIS IS A FEDERAL PROBLEM, A FEDERAL ISSUE.

IT IS GOING TO INVOLVE COOPERATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AS CONSTITUTED NOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT IS A PROBLEM FOR STATE GOVERNMENTS.

THAT IS WHERE IT RESTS.

THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING, ERIC.

I NEVER AGREED WITH YOU SO MUCH BEFORE.

>> IT IS A NEW YEAR.

>> THEY ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING ELSE THAT ABBOTT AND DESANTOS ARE DOING.

THEY ARE NOT DEMONIZING THESE INDIVIDUALS.

NOT ONLY DID THEY TOY WITH THEIR LIVES.

THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT HERE IN COLORADO.

THEY ARE SHOWING COMPASSION.

THEY ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE SHELTER, FOOD, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

IN THE END THAT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

>> DENVER HAS PUT FORTH $5 MILLION TO TRY TO HELP AND SERVE THESE MIGRANTS.

NO WONDER CITY OFFICIALS STRUGGLING.

IS THERE A SOLUTION TO THIS?

>> I THINK THE SOLUTION TO LOOK AT THE BROADER PROBLEM WE ARE DEALING WITH HIM.

REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT COME TOGETHER ON A SENSIBLE BORDER POLICY.

THE MEASURES WE ARE NOW ARE SHAKY AT BEST.

THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT GOING FORWARD IS JUST LIMITED, REALLY.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM THIS NEW CONGRESS IS SOME STEPS FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I THINK THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS THE BURDEN OF SUPPORTING THESE ASYLUM SEEKERS IS NOT DISTRIBUTED AS IT SHOULD BE.

I THINK A MORE SENSIBLE POLICY COULD HELP DISTRIBUTE THAT BURDEN.

BETWEEN WHAT POLIS IS DOING AND WHAT ABBOTT AND DESANTOS IS DOING.

I THINK THE REALLY DIFFERENCE IS COERCION.

I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.

>> DAVE, YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> IT IS NOT FAIR FOR BORDER TOWNS LIKE EL PASO TO BEAR ALL THE BURDEN.

DENVER FREAKING OUT WITH SEVERAL THOUSAND MIGRANTS.

THAT IS MINUSCULE COMPARED TO WHAT BORDER TOWNS HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ON THEIR OWN, THEY ARE NOT BEING BUSED BY ABBOTT OR TEXAS.

GETTING ON THEIR OWN THROUGH TEXAS NON-PROFITS.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE MAY KNOW SOMEONE WHO CAN TAKE THEM IN.

LET THEM SLEEP IN THEIR BASEMENT.

THEY MAY KNOW SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP THEM.

NOT NECESSARILY IN DENVER.

THAT'S WHY ABOUT 70% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTING TRANSPORTATION TO CALIFORNIA OR NEW YORK OR CHICAGO.

IT IS NOT LYFT SERVICE.

IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE IN MINNEAPOLIS THE STATE OF COLORADO WILL SEND YOU OR GIVE YOU A FREE BUS RIDE TO CHICAGO.

AFTER THAT, SAY THE CITY OF CHICAGO, THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU WANT TO RUN A BUS TO MINNEAPOLIS.

YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THEY ARE BEARING A HUGE BURDEN.

>> WHAT WERE THE PRIORITIES BE WHAT SHOULD THEIR PRIORITIES BE?

DANNY?

>> IT IS AMAZING TO ME.

DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE A VETO PROOF IN THE MAJORITY IN THE STATE HOUSE AND A 2312 MAJORITY IN THE SENATE.

THERE ARE MANY PRIORITIES.

I THINK THE AFFORDABILITY AND AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING CHIEFS AMONGST THEM.

DURING THIS LAST ELECTION CYCLE THERE WERE TWO ISSUES THAT DOMINATED IN COLORADO.

THAT WAS ABORTION, ABORTION RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY OR SAVING DEMOCRACY.

I THINK CLEARLY THAT IN THE -- IN THE WAKE OF THE SUPREME COURT'S DESTRUCTION OF ROE V. WADE.

I'M IN POSITIVE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION IN DURING THIS SESSION TO PROTECT AND EXPAND ABORTION ACCESS AND ALSO TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY AND OTHER INTERESTS OF PATIENTS AND DOCTORS.

THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT BEING NEAR THE TOP OF THE LEGISLATURE'S AGENDA.

>> ANOTHER THING THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT IS THE COST OF LIVING HERE IN DENVER.

WE ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE CITY IN U.S.

SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY FOR THE LEGISLATURE FOR SURE.

THERE IS A FEW PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE.

THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT LIFTING THE BAN IN COLORADO.

INSTEAD OF TRYING RENT CONTROL WE CAN START AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

I CAN SEE THE LEGISLATURE FOCUSING ON THAT.

ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT WE ARE NOT FOCUSED RIGHT NOW AS MUCH JUST BECAUSE IT IS THE WINTER IS GOING TO BE WATER SHORTAGES AND SAVING THE COLORADO RIVER.

IT IS NOT FIRE SEASON NOW.

IT WILL BE.

WE WILL HAVE TO WORK NOT ONLY WITH PEOPLE WITHIN THE STATE BUT OTHER STATES TO TRY TO PROTECT ALL OF THE WEST IN COLORADO RIVER, THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL.

>> DAVE, WHAT ABOUT CRIME?

RISING CRIME IS SOMETHING AFFECTING THIS STATE.

DO YOU THINK THE LEGISLATURE WILL DO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL?

>> THEY WILL CRACK DOWN ON GUN OWNERS RATHER THAN CRIMINALS.

ANOTHER THING THEY WILL WANT TO DO IS A MAJOR ATTACK ON THE TAXPAYERS BILL OF RIGHTS.

THESE POLITICIANS CONGRATULATIONS THEMSELVES HOW MUCH THEY LIKE DEMOCRACY.

THEY DON'T LIKE DEMOCRATIC VOTING.

THEY THINK ALL THE PROPERTY IN THEIR JURISDICTION BELONGS TO THEM.

IT IS UP TO THEM TO DECIDE HOW MUCH OF IT THEY WILL LET THE PEOPLE KEEP.

FOR THEM, CHOICE IS SOMETHING THEY ARE ALL FOR PREGNANT WOMEN BUT NOT FOR WORKING PEOPLE.

>> IF YOU COULD GIVE A RECOMMENDATION WHAT WOULD IT BE?

>> MORE BROADLY DEMOCRATS HARPED ON THAT DURING THE ELECTION YEAR OF 2022.

LET'S SEE IF THEY STAY WITH THAT AS A POLITICAL MESSAGE.

NOW THAT THE ELECTION HAS PASSED AND WE ARE IN 2023 AND LET'S SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

WHETHER THEY PUT ACTION BEHIND THE WORDS.

GOVERNMENT IN COLORADO HAS GOTTEN LARGER AND LARGER PARTICULARLY UNDER DEMOCRATIC RULE HERE.

YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU NEED TO PUT THE BRAKES ON IT PARTICULARLY ON THE EMPLOY COUNT AND ALL THE REST.

THERE IS THAT HIDDEN ISSUE.

IT IS THE BURDEN OF COLORADO REPUBLICAN RETIREMENT ASSOCIATION IT IS UNDER WATER TODAY THAN IT WAS 12 MONTHS AGO.

I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC THEY WANT TO RETACKLE THAT GIVEN UNION PRESSURES.

IF THEY WERE FAR SIDED THEY WOULD.

OF COURSE, THERE IS THE WHOLE EDUCATION PIECE, OUR SCHOOL FINANCE FUNDING FORMULA NEEDS A MAJOR OVERALL THAT HAS BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING.

IT IS TOUGH STUFF.

MAYBE THE LEGISLATURE WILL RISE TO THE LEGISLATION.

>> THE U.S.

CONGRESSMAN HAD A TOUGH WEEK.

A GROUP OF REPTIVES INCLUDING LAUREN BOEBERT DEMANDED CONCESSIONS.

THE GROUP VOTED FOR OTHER GOP MEMBERS.

IS THE GOP DRAMA MA ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING?

KALINA.

>> IT HONESTLY REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

I CAN UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW WHY PEOPLE WITH DISSATISFIED.

I THINK THIS IS A TEST FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND FOR THE REPUBLICAN AGENDA GOING FORWARD.

IF WE SEE THAT THE SMALL NUMBER OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ABLE TO DRAW THESE CONCESSIONS OUT OF McCARTHY.

JUST THE FACT THEIR MAJORITY IS SO NARROW WILL LIMIT WHAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN ACHIEVE IN THE HOUSE.

>> BOEBERT BARELY WON HER SEAT.

IT PROVES THESE ANTICS AREN'T POPULAR WITH VOTERS.

THE FINAL THING IS THAT MANY OF THESE DEMANDS BEING MADE BY THE FREEDOM CAUCUS ARE UNDISSIRABLE.

THERE ARE GOOD STUFF THERE.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE GLOSSED OVER AS JUST DRAMA.

>> THE FREEDOM CAUCUS I THINK IS RIGHT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DEBT PROBLEM.

SOME OF THEIR CONCESSIONS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ELIMINATING SOME OF THAT DEBT.

DO YOU THINK THEY WILL DO ANYTHING IN SUCCEEDING AT ALL?

>> WE HAVE SUCCEEDED CONCESSIONS OUT OF McCARTHY.

THERE HAVE BEEN 14 U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER ELECTIONS THAT WENT TO MULTIPLE BALLOTS.

13 OF THOSE HAPPENED BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR.

THE LAST ONE HAPPENED IN 1923.

THAT TOOK NINE BALLOTS.

THE MOST RECENT BEFORE THAT IT TOOK 44 BALLOTS.

113 BALLOTS AND 63 BALLOTS.

OVER THE LAST DECADE THE POWER IN THE HOUSE HAS BEEN TOO CENTRALIZED.

THAT WORSENED THE PREVIOUS DECADE BEFORE.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS CONTEST WILL RESULT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE OPENNESS IN THE HOUSE MORE LIKE IN THE '70s OR '80s.

YOU GOT THOSE PEOPLE WHO KEEP VOTING.

THAT IS NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT.

ST. PETER DENIED JESUS THREE TIMES IT HAPPENED IN ONE SESSION.

JEFFREYS HAS DENIED 12 TIMES IN HIS CAREER.

IF YOU CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND INTEGRITY IT IS HARD TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

>> DO YOU THINK ANYTHING WILL COME OUT OF THIS MOST RECENT DRAMA?

>> THE ONLY WORD I CAN THINK OF IS SPECTACLE.

I THINK IT REALLY POINTS WHOEVER TAKES THE CHAIR SPEAKER WHETHER KEVIN McCARTHY OR SOME OTHER CANDIDATE.

THIS IS AN UNGOVERNORABLE CAUCUS.

HOW BADLY THE REPUBLICANS PERFORMED IN THE LAST ELECTION.

IF THEY HAD A BIG MAJORITY THE BOEBERTS AND OTHERS OF THE WORLD WOULDN'T HAVE THAT MUCH IMPACT.

THIS IS A FUNCTION THEY HAVE A FOUR VOTE MAJORITY.

THEY CAN ONLY LOSE FOUR VOTES.

IF THEY CAN'T AGREE ON THE SPEAKERSHIP HOW WILL THEY COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE STUFF THAT AWAITS THEM.

I THINK AND WE WILL SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT KIM BUCK HAD SOMETHING INTERESTING TO PLAY HERE.

THERE WAS EXPIRATION POINT ON IT.

IF McCARTHY COULDN'T PUT IT TOGETHER.

THE NOTION OF THEM AS REPUBLICANS TELLS YOU WHERE THE EPICENTER IS THESE DAYS.

>> DANNY, LAUREN BOEBERT PROMISED TO SEEMED CHANGE THE WAY SHE DOES BUSINESS GIVEN HER CLOSE VOTE.

DOES THIS HELP HER OR HURT HER?

>> IT IS FRANKLY NOT HELPING HER ON FOX.

I WASN'T WATCHING IT ON FOX.

I WATCHED IT ON ANOTHER CHANNEL.

I HAVE NO REASON SHE HAS LEARNED ANY LESSON.

I'M SURE ADAM IS JUST RUBBING HIS HANDS TOGETHER WAITING FOR THE NEXT TRY.

I HAVE TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING DAVID SAID.

CONGRESSMEN JEFFREYS HAS NEVER STORMED THE CAPITAL.

>> TRUMP DIDN'T WIN.

>> THAT'S FINE.

DID HE STORM THE CAPITAL?

DID HE TRY TO DISRUPT AN ORDERLY TRANSFER OF POWER?

NEVER.

ABSOLUTELY NEVER.

ONE THING TO QUESTION 2016 THAT IS QUITE ANOTHER TO ENCOURAGE AN INSECTION.

THE REPUBLICANS WILL HAVE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ARE SWORN IN AND SEATED.

FORMER SPEAKER NANCY POLOSI.

LOOK WHAT SHE WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WANT TO BLOW IT UP.

IT IS WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH.

>> NOW IT IS TIME FOR OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW.

AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING NICE.

YOUR DISGRACE.

>> IF YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW $0.10 PER PLASTIC BAG AND PAPER BAG.

YOU OUGHT TO STOP COMPLAINING.

NEXT YEAR PLASTIC BAGS WILL BE BANNED ENTIRELY WHICH WILL MAKE PEOPLE USE CLOTHE GROCERY BAGS.

CLOTHE BAGS HAVE MUCH WORSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OVER THEIR LIFE CYCLE WHEN YOU TAKE INTO FACTORS THE AMOUNT OF WATER IS NEEDED FOR COTTON CULTIVATION.

>> YOUR DISGRACE?

>> WE WERE ON I-70 THROUGH CLEAR CREEK CANYON THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS.

THEY HAD THESE TWO BRAND NEW SHINY EXPRESS LANES CLOSED.

WHEN THEY WERE CALLED ABOUT IT ON TWITTER.

THEY DUCKED AND COVERED AND SAID THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THE EXPRESS LANES OPEN ON HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS.

THERE ARE MANY TIMES OPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK WHEN THEY ARE NOT NEEDED.

SECONDLY IT WAS A HOLIDAY.

TELL IT STRAIGHT CDOT AND USE BETTER JUDGMENT WHEN TO OPEN THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

>> DANNY YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> MY DISGRACE ARE THE LUNATIC ANTIVAKERS WITH THEIR LIES, WITH THEIR CONSPIRACY THEORYS THAT A COVID VACANCY DEFINITELY CAUSED HIM TO LAPSE ON THE FIELD.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE.

THANK GOODNESS HE SEEMS TO BE RESPONDING AND RECOVERING.

THERE IS JUST NO -- THERE IS NO BOTTOM FOR SOME PEOPLE.

>> YOUR DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.

>> MINE IS A RECENT STUDY OUT OF STANFORD.

INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO LOSE OUT ABOUT 70K.

I THINK THAT IS SIGNIFICANT.

THE REAL DISGRACE WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT WHY KIDS WERE KEPT OUT OF SCHOOLS FOR SO LONG ESPECIALLY IN DENVER.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.

>> LET'S SAY SOMETHING NICE.

DAVE IN.

>> LAST TUESDAY THE TWO MOST FAMOUS TEENAGERS IN THE WORLD WERE BORN.

THEY DO NOT LIKE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH.

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SAY ONE OR THE OTHER IS A HERO.

THERE ARE MANY OTHERS SAY ONE OR BOTH ARE NUTTIER THAN A FRUITCAKE.

BOTH OF THEM ALWAYS STAND UP FOR THEIR CONVICTIONS IN THE FACE OF DIVERTY.

THIS STAR CROSSED COUPLE MAY HAVE WEDDING BELLS IN THEIR FUTURE.

BEST WISHES TO THEM.

>> ERIC, YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> I LOVE THAT LITTLE FACT, DAVID TOLD ME THAT OFF THE AIR.

IT IS JANUARY 6th, TWO YEARS SINCE THE SHAMBLES AT THE CAPITOL.

HOPFULLY IT REMINDS US DEMOCRACY IS NOT GUARANTEE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE LAW WAS PASSED LAST YEAR TO PROTECT ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTIVE ACCESS IN COLORADO.

IT IS ONE THAT COLORADO NAMED AND LIST OF TOP FIVE MOMENTS IN COLORADO HISTORY IN THE MAKING FOR 2022.

SO GOOD FOR THE REPRODUCTIVE EQUITY ACT.

THANK YOU COLORADO FOR RECOGNIZING THE HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE.

>> WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE COVID REALLY REBOUNDING.

THERE ARE NEW RESTAURANTS OPENING IN DENVER.

I HOPE THIS CONTRIBUTES TO A REVITALIZATION.

>> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT.

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