
March 10th, 2023
Season 31 Episode 10 | 28mVideo has Closed Captions
Topical experts discuss the latest in Colorado Politics.
Host: Kyle Dyer Panelist: • Patty Calhoun • David Kopel • Eric Sondermann • Jesse Paul Topics: • Gun Violence Prevention Bills • Next Chair of the Colorado Republican Party • Ballots Going Out for Denver Mayor • New Rail Service in Utah
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March 10th, 2023
Season 31 Episode 10 | 28mVideo has Closed Captions
Host: Kyle Dyer Panelist: • Patty Calhoun • David Kopel • Eric Sondermann • Jesse Paul Topics: • Gun Violence Prevention Bills • Next Chair of the Colorado Republican Party • Ballots Going Out for Denver Mayor • New Rail Service in Utah
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> HI I'M KYLE DYER AND WELCOME TO COLORADO INSIDE OUT ON THIS FRIDAY MARCH 10TH.
WE RECOGNIZE NATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY.
WILL WE GET OUR FIRST HERE IN COLORADO BE CHOSEN THIS WEEKEND.
WOMEN LEGISLATORS ARE SPONSORING SOME OF THE PIECES OF GUN LEGISLATIONS INCLUDING THE GUN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN.
STARTING WITH THE ONLY WOMEN PANEL LIST FOR THIS SHOW THE GREAT PATTY CALHOUN FOUNDER AND EDITOR OF WESTWORD.
WE HAVE DAVID KOPEL.
AS WELL AS ERIC SONDERMANN.
AND JESSE PAUL REPORTER AT THE COLORADO SUN.
WE ARE HALF WAY THROUGH THE SESSION AND IT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED.
PATTY THE OTHER GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTIONS BILL WERE TALKED ABOUT THIS WEEK.
>> IF THAT MAKES IT THROUGH I'M GOING TO BE SURPRISED.
WHAT IS THE BILL THAT WILL GET THE MOST ATTENTION AND THE MOST PUSH THROUGH IS THE RED FLAG LAW.
WE HAD BIG CONTROL GUN MEASURES.
NOW THESE ARE INSPIRED BY THE CLUB Q SHOOTINGS IN NOVEMBER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERPETRATORS OF THESE CRIMES IS THERE SOME WAY IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
THAT IS THE GOAL EVERYONE WANTS TO STOP THESE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
THEY WANT TO STOP THEM AS TRAGEDIES.
THE RED FLAG LAWS WHICH HAS BARELY USED WHERE THE SHOOTINGS OCCURRED, IF IT WERE EXTENDED IN COLORADO.
IF PEOPLE WERE WARNING THERE WAS DANGEROUS MAYBE IT WOULD HELP.
THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE ARE WAITING PERIODS.
YOU HAVE TO BE 21 TO BY WEAPONS.
A POSSIBILITY TO SUE MANUFACTURES.
WE WILL SEE A LOT MORE ACTION AND HEAR A LOT MORE BEFORE THIS IS DONE.
>> DAVID?
>> I WAS DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE TESTIFYING ON SOME OF THOSE BILLS ON MONDAY AND ON WEDNESDAY.
IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE GUN PREVENTION LOBBY AND THE ABORTION PREVENTION LOBBY COVER EACH OTHER TACTICS.
THE WAITING PERIOD.
THE LIABILITY BILL IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS COPIED FROM THE ANTI-ABORTION PEOPLE AND COPIED BY THEM.
IN TEXAS LAW IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH AN ABORTION.
HERE THE NEW BILL WOULD SAY IF THERE IS A GUN CRIME IN COLORADO, AND MAYBE THE VICTIM DOESN'T WANT TO SUE SMITH AND WESSON.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CAN SUE ANYWAY.
CAN DESIGNATE SOMEONE ELSE TO SUE LIKE ONE OF THE GUN PREVENTION LOBBYES.
EVEN IF THE CASES NEVER WIN.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING STRATEGY.
>> I HAVE TWO OBSERVATIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY TALKING AND THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN BUT ABOUT THE GUN BILL AT LARGE.
THERE IS SOME MORE DIVISION PARTICULARLY ON ASSAULT WEAPONS.
THAT IS AN INDICATION OF HOW BIG THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IS IN THE LEGISLATURE AT THIS POINT.
SO YOU NOW HAVE DEMOCRATS REPRESENTING RURAL SEATS OR HIGHLAND'S RANCH OR OTHER SEATS THAT HAVE BEEN REPUBLICAN SEATS.
THEY ARE NOW BEING HELD BY DEMOCRATS.
THOSE DEMOCRATS IN THE COURSE OF TRYING TO REPRESENT THEIR CONSTITUENCY NOT ALL IN ON SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION AS SOME OTHER DEMOCRATS ARE ARE PULLING BACK IN SOME RESPECT.
THE DIVISION IS A TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING AND DO SO BY LARGE MARGIN.
SECONDLY IT STRIKES ME THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN WILL GET SO MUCH FIRE PUN INTENDED.
ALMOST BENEFIT SO MUCH OF THESE OTHER BILLS.
SO MUCH FOCUS BY ANTIGUN CONTROL TYPES AND BY THE PRESS AND OTHERS WILL BE ON THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN THAT ALLOWS SOME OF THESE OTHER BILLS TO GO IF NOT UNDER THE RADAR WITH LESS HEAT ATTACHED TO IT.
>> YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I WASN'T SURE IT WOULD COME.
THERE WAS TALK IN LEGISLATURE OF IT BEING SIDELINED.
HAD TO INTERRUPT MY DINNER TO LOOK INTO IT.
WE ASKED WAS THIS DONE TO BURY THE BILL.
WE WERE TOLD NO.
I THINK THAT THE BILL IN SOME WAYS MAKES IT HARDER FOR THE OTHER BILLS TO PASS.
IT IS KIND OF HURTING THEIR MESSAGING AROUND IT.
HE DOESN'T THINK IT HAS THE VOTES IN THE SENATE.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE IT TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
I THINK IT WILL GET VETOED.
WE WILL SEE DIVISIONS AMONG DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS.
>> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE ABORTION STORY AND ITS LAWSUITS AND HOW THAT IS BEING BROUGHT IN THE LEGISLATURE AS WELL?
>> THREE ABORTION BILLS TO FURTHER ENSURE ACCESS ABORTIONS IN LAWSUITS IN COLORADO.
CHANGE SOME STUFF AROUND.
HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY AROUND ABORTION AND PREVENT SO-CALLED RESEPTEMBERTIVE PRACTICES.
THEY GET PEOPLE IN AND TRY TO GET FOLKS NOT TO GET AN ABORTION.
THOSE BILLS ARE INTERESTING.
I THINK IT IS INTERESTING POINT WITH THE CIVIL SIDE OF THINGS.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> DAYS BEFORE THE VOTING FOR THE NEXT CHAIR OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHICH HAPPENS TOMORROW.
KEVIN JOINED THE RACE.
DAVID, HE IS CALLING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO COME TOGETHER AND UNIFY.
>> YEAH WHICH IS A COMMON THING.
YOU CAN FIND THAT IN EVERY PARTY LEADERSHIP THING.
AND I DON'T THINK MOST VOTERS KNOW -- THE NAME RECOGNITION.
CAN YOU NAME THE CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?
SO THE MAIN THING THEY CAN DO IS BE COMPETENT MANAGERS TO SET UP A STATE ORGANIZATION THAT CAN HELP THEIR CANDIDATES.
IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT VOTERS DON'T NECESSARY PUNISH A PARTY PUTTING ELECTION DENIERS IN LEADERSHIP.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DENIERS WHO THINK THAT HILLARY CLINTON WON IN 2018 AND STACEY ABRAMS FOR GOVERNOR IN GEORGIA.
THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO HURT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTIES WITH THE VOTERS.
I GOT TO SAY IT IS SAD CAN SAY THAT JOE BIDEN WON THIS ELECTION.
YOU LOOK CRAZIER WHERE THE STATE COUNTY PARTY CHAIR GOT RE-ELECTED.
DESPITE RUNNING THE PARTY INTO THE GROUND.
>> ERIC?
>> I DON'T THINK THE PARTY CHAIR IS THAT IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF A PUBLIC REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PARTY.
IT DOES INDICATE WHERE THE MINDSET IS AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
TO DAVID'S POINT ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND STACEY ABRAMS.
THERE ARE DENIERS ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
SHAME ON THEM.
I'M NOT AWARE TRIED TO ASSAULT THE CAPITOL.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF MASSIVE DEGREE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES, THE MEETING IS UP IN LOVELAND.
IF THEY DID, THEY MIGHT SHOW A MOVIE.
I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF GOOD MOVIES.
IT COULD BE MAD MAX, IT COULD BE DEATH WISH THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THIS PARTY IS HEADED.
THEY KEEP EXPLORING.
I WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
HIS QUOTE WAS THAT THE REPUBLICAN BRAND IN COLORADO IS LIKELY ABOVE OF GONORRHEA.
YOU TAKE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE SAYING OKAY MAYBE NOT GONORRHEA BUT DO WE SEE SOMETHING FOR SYPHILIS.
PEOPLE REFUSE TO GET A GRIP ON REALITY.
THE NEW CONTENDER IN THE RACE FORMER CHAIR I THINK HIS NAME IS KEVIN McCARNEY.
>> JESSE YOU MODERATED A DEBATE?
>> YES, I MADE IT OUT ALIVE.
>> WHAT IS IT LIKE?
>> I TOTALLY APPRECIATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE ON US ON THAT.
I THINK ALL OF THESE FOLKS HAVE POTENTIAL TO DO HARM TO THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WHEN YOU TALK TO REPUBLICANS ARE NERVOUS ABOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE BEING ECSTATIC ABOUT ANY OF THEM.
THE ELECTION DENIAL THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE ON.
THEY DRAGGED THE PARTY BACK THERE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING WHO THE STATE PARTY CHAIR ARE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP ARE REPUBLICAN ACTIVIST MAYBE A LITTLE MORE MODERATE.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO COMES OUT.
IN TERMS OF THE DEBATE WAS INTERESTING.
SO, I THINK YOU WILL SEE GO SEVERAL BALLOTS.
IT IS AN ALL DAY THING.
>> OKAY.
TINA PETERS IS THE ONLY WOMAN IN THIS RACE, IN THIS FIELD.
>> WE ARE TAKING ON A WOMAN WHO I THOUGHT DID A VERY GOOD JOB CONSIDERING WHAT SHE RAN INTO.
SHE CAME IN AN EARLY ACTIVIST.
I DON'T AGREE ON HER STANCE ON PERSON HOOD.
SHE CAME INTO A PARTY IT IS HARD TO TELL WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE.
YOU HAVE SO MANY CRAZIES LIKE TINA PETERS.
THE MOVIE SHOULD BE GROUNDHOG DAY.
IF THEY DON'T GET SMARTER AND REALIZE SOMEONE WHO DOES NO HARM TO PUSH THE PARTY ALONG.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT GOING TO BE WINNING IN COLORADO.
THEY NEED LESS CRAZY, MORE COMMON SENSE.
THIS FROM MESS SA COUNTY WHO SEEN TINA PETERS MAYBE HE HAS A SOLUTION.
THAT PROBABLY THEY WON'T VOTE FOR HIM.
>> SPEAKING OF ELECTION AND CANDIDATES.
BALLOTS WILL BE GOING OUT IN THE MAIL FOR THE DENVER CITY WIDE RACES.
INCLUDING THE WIDE RACE FOR THE 46th MAYOR OF OUR CITY.
ERIC THE FIELD IS VERY WIDE.
WE SAW SOME REPORTS SAYING WHO IS WINNING WHEN IT COMES TO FUND-RAISING.
>> WE DID SEE THOSE REPORTS.
THE BIG QUESTION FUND-RAISING IF YOU ARE RUNNING FOR THE U.S. SENATE FUND-RAISING IS NOT EVERYTHING BUT IT IS A WHOLE LOT.
HISTORICALLY FUND-RAISING IN A MAYORAL RACE IT IS IMPORTANT.
HICKENLOOPER WAS NOT THE BIG MONEY IN 2003.
HANCOCK WAS NOT THE BIG MONEY GUY YEARS AGO.
WE WILL SEE THE RULES THEY HAVE CHANGED.
MONEY STILL DICTATES EVERYTHING OR WHETHER IT IS STILL MORE ABOUT GRASSROOTS AND MOBILIZING CONSTITUENTS.
I DON'T THINK MONEY IS EVERYTHING IN THIS RACE.
I DO THINK IT IS SOMETHING.
MIKE JOHNSON HAS IT.
TO THE TUNE OF ANOTHER $225,000.
HANSON IS ON THE AIR.
WE WILL SEE HOW LONG HE CAN STAIR ON THE AIR.
DEBBY ORTEGA.
IT IS WILD.
IT IS WILD TO THINK THIS ELECTION IS ALMOST HERE IN TERMS OF BALLOTS BEING ON OUR KITCHEN TABLES.
>> YOU HAVE DAPPLED SOME INTO THE MAYORS RACE?
>> WE ARE DEFINITELY PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.
17 CANDIDATES I NEVER COVERED ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE POLLING IS FACE -- FASCINATING.
I THINK DENVER VOTERS ARE CONFUSED LOOKING FOR ANY REASON OR TO NOT VOTE FOR PEOPLE.
THAT MAKES EVERYTHING SINGLE WORD THESE FOLKS SAY SO IMPORTANT.
EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE OUT OF US VERY IMPORTANT.
ALL OF THE MONEY.
YOU LOOK AT THE STORIES FOR THE MONEY RACE THAT CAN HELP OR HURT.
WE DID A THING WE ASKED CANDIDATES THEIR AIRPORT GREETINGS.
THERE ARE FOLKS SAYING THIS WILL HELP ME DECIDE.
THIS IS A TOTALLY WIDE OPEN RACE.
THE MONEY STUFF IS INTERESTING.
I THINK PEOPLE SEE A LOT MORE OUTSIDE GROUPS GETTING INVOLVED.
>> ALTHOUGH I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GO LOOK AT THAT ARTICLE ON COLORADO SUN NOT EVERY CANDIDATE RECORDED SOMETHING.
IT SHOWS PERSONALITY, I LIKED IT.
PATTY?
>> BRILLIANT IDEA FROM JESSE.
PBS12 IS DOING GREAT SHORT PIECES ON THESE CANDIDATES.
I'VE WATCHED THEM.
THEY TELL ME ABOUT THE CANDIDATES THAN ALL THE DEAD TREES WE HAVE NOW KILLS.
THE TREES WE KILLED WITH STORY AFTER STORY AFTER STORY.
I THINK WHAT WE WILL SEE IS PEOPLE WAITING TO THE VERY END TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO DECIDE THE PENALTIES ARE COMING THROUGH SLOWLY.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO BUY TV ADDS.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE BEGINNING NOTING WHAT THE FRONT RUNNERS SAID AT CERTAIN TIMES.
THERE IS A LOT OF FACT CHECKING GOING ON.
I THINK THEY WILL WAIT UNTIL THE VERY END.
WE BETTER HOPE THE DENVER ELECTION COMMISSION WHICH WAS VERY SLOW, THE DIVISION COUNTING BALLOTS IN NOVEMBER IS READY TO COUNT AN INFLUX AT THE END.
>> DO YOU THINK IT IS ALL AT ONCE OR A BIG TURNOUT?
>> I THINK WE HAVE VERY LATE VOTERS.
>> DAVID?
>> PERHAPS UNREALISTICALLY I THINK THAT DEBBY ORTEGA IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST CANDIDATES.
SHE IS A CANDIDATE WHO BY FAR HAS GOTTEN TO KNOW MORE DENVER VOTERS IN PERSON BECAUSE OF HER LONG SERVICE OF THE DENVER CITY COUNCIL INCLUDING REPRESENTING THE ENTIRE CITY AT LARGE.
THAT IS A HID L ADVANTAGE FOR HER.
THE STORY AND OTHERS ON COLORADO ON LESLIE HARROD.
ONE IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A NICE GUY RUNNING YOUR OFFICE TO BE EFFECTIVE.
JOHN HICKENLOOPER WHO WE TAUGHT BEER WITH YOUR HAMBURGER KIND OF GUY.
TURNED OUT TO BE QUITE A SCREAMER BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
CHARLES SCHUMER I TALKED TO ONE OF HIS STAFFER.
SCHUMER HAD NO HESITATION CALLING SOMEONE ON MIDNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT.
SO OBVIOUSLY HE IS GETTING THE JOB DONE.
HOWEVER, FOR THE LESLIE HARROD THING WHEN AN ORGANIZATION CUTS YOU OFF LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO HER.
SO THAT DOES RACE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER SHE CAN BE EFFECTIVE.
>> SENATOR MICHAEL BENNET URGES TO OLD ON A NEW RAIL SERVICE THAT WILL CONNECT TO COLORADO RAIL LINES.
IT IS ALL WHAT WOULD BE IN THOSE CARS.
>> CRUDE OIL.
I'M TOLD IT IS WAXY CRUDE OIL.
THIS HAS TO DO WITH WATER ISSUES IN THE WESTERN SLOPE.
IF YOU CONTAMINATE WATER THAT WILL BE A DISASTER GIVEN OUR WATER SHORTAGE ISSUES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS GETTING LOSS IN THIS.
THIS IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION IF THESE TRAINS CAN GO THROUGH.
BIDEN WILL EFFECTIVELY MAKE THAT DECISION.
I THINK HAVING PRESSURE FROM COLORADO'S CONGRESS PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN EFFECT.
IT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENVIRONMENT IT IS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE PRESIDENT TO MAKE WHAT, I THINK THESE FOLKS WILL BE THE RIGHT CALL.
>> WASN'T IT APPROVED BACK IN JULY.
DO YOU THINK BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARD WHAT HAPPENED IN OHIO PEOPLE ARE THINKING TRAINS.
WHAT IS ON TRAINS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS NOT ONE TRAIN.
WE HAVE ANOTHER DERAILMENT NOT WITH SUCH TOXIC MATERIALS.
HOW SAFE ARE THESE?
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING INCREDIBLE REPORTING HOW THEY ROLLED BACK SAFETY.
IT WASN'T JUST THE REPUBLICANS ON TRAINS.
IF CONGRESS IS GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE SAFETY HAD BEEN ROLLED BACK THESE TRAINS SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE SAFELY.
THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED MUCH MORE WHEN THEY DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULE.
IT IS TIME TO TAKE A DEEP LOOK.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE IS GOING THROUGH OR NOT.
PEOPLE NEED GAS, PEOPLE NEED FUEL.
PEOPLE NEED THESE PRODUCTS.
WHAT IS THE SAFE WAY TO TRANSPORT THEM?
>> WHERE DO YOU THINK IT WILL GO?
>> PROBABLY APPROVED.
THERE IS A CHANCE FOR THE OTHER WAY.
THE SAFEST TO MOVE SOMETHING IS BY A PIPELINE.
YOU KNOW, THE STATISTICS SHOW THAT BY FAR.
MAYBE THE SENATOR WILL SAY LET'S BUILD A PIPELINE ALONG THE RAIL LINE THAT WILL MOVE THE OIL MUCH MORE SAFER WITH LESS SAFER.
BUT TRAINS ON THE WHOLE MOVING ANY KIND OF HAZARDOUS CAR GO ARE WAY SAFER THAN MOVING THEM BY TRUCK.
IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT PIPELINE, I THINK THEY ARE MISTAKEN.
THE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS PEOPLE SAY, IS SOLAR PANELS AND WIND FARMS.
THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NATURAL SOURCES LIKE OIL.
THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE BECAUSE OF SUBSIDIES YOU PAY.
IF YOU ARE AGAINST MOVING FOSSIL FUELS SAFELY.
MORE SCARS UPON THE LAND.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THE JOHN DENVER QUOTE.
>> NO, JOHN DENVER QUOTES.
MAYBE A MILE FROM THE RIVER AND SIMILAR DISTANCE WHERE THESE TRAINS WILL BE COMING THROUGH.
KUDOS TO SENATOR BENNET.
SENATOR FOR CONGRESSMAN FOR PUSHING IT.
WHATEVER THE RESOLUTION THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT SHOULD BE WAYED AS HEAVILY AS THE MAIN TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR WHICH THIS IS ORIGINATING.
>> WE WILL TALK THE LIGHTNING ROUND.
>> PLAYING OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK.
THE LAWSUIT WHICH IS BASED HERE HAS BEEN SLAPPED, PUSHED AROUND SINCE THE ELECTION IN 2020 HAS SUED FOX NEWS AND YOU ARE HEARING MORE HOW FOX MANAGERS ON AIR TALENT NEW HOW FALSE THE ELECTION RIGGING STORIES WERE THAT THEY KEPT PUSHING.
THE TRUMP LAWYER WHO HAS CONNECTSES GOT SPANKED FOR TALKING HOW THE ELECTION HAS BEEN STOLEN AND IT WAS FALSE.
>> A NAME ISN'T ACCURATE ANYMORE.
THEY ARE BASED IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA.
RECENTLY ONE OF THEIR LAWYERS WAS ARRESTED FOR PARTICIPATING IN A TERRORIST ATTACK AGAINST A POLICE TRAINING CENTER IN GEORGIA.
ACTING AS A PERIMETER SCOUT FOR THE ATTACK AND SAYING HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
THEY ARE SAYING HE IS AMONG THE MANY TERRORIST WHO ARE THE SUPPOSED VICTIMS OF THE POLICE.
>> INTERESTING.
>> I AGREE WITH PATTY AND HER CONDEMNATION OF ELLIS THAT SCHOLAR ATTORNEY.
I HAVE FOUND MATT TO BE A GOOD GUY AND A REASONABLE GUY.
HE WENT OVER THE TOP IN TWEETING THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN.
EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T APOLOGIZE FOR THE TWEET HE DIDN'T TAKE IT DOWN.
IT WAS COMPLETELY OVER THE TOP INCLUDING POSSIBILITY OF CIVIL WAR.
>> JESSE?
>> I'M NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THIS.
IT IS MY DISGRACE.
I FEEL LIKE IT IS VERY TIRED.
GOING UP SKIS WAS BRUTAL.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME GOOD ASIDE FROM THE CONDITIONS.
WHAT IS SOMETHING GOOD?
>> HOW ABOUT HAPPY 50th ANNIVERSARY TO THE ISSAC HOWARD TUNNEL.
>> JESSE, IT IS NOT SO BAD.
>> SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GREAT IN OUR STATE JD McFARLAND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL PASSED AWAY RECENTLY.
HE WAS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT COLORADO ATTORNEY GENERAL.
HE WAS THE ONE WHO REALLY CHANGED IT FROM JUST BEING A MINON OF THE STATE AGENCIES INTO THE CONSTITUTIONAL ROLE WHO MAKES INDEPENDENT DECISIONS.
>> OKAY.
>> I DID NOT KNOW HE HAD PASSED AWAY.
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT, DAVID.
A GOOD MAN WHO SERVED IN THE 1970s AND 1980s.
ALSO PASSING AWAY BOB A LONG WRITER IN THE DENVER POST.
OCCASIONAL PARTICIPANT AT COLORADO INSIDE OUT AND YEARS LONG BY.
HE WILL BE MISSED.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP.
>> I WONDER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WATCHING APPEARING ON THE SHOW.
I'M EXCITED FOR THE LAST 60 DAYS TO BE OVER.
>> WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.
WE WILL CHECK ON YOU.
THANKS FOR WATCHING TONIGHT.
WE APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.
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I'M KYLE DYER, I WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK HERE ON PBS12.
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