>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> WELL, WE HAD QUITE THE PRIMARY IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS THIS WEEK.

WE A..

IN JUST A MOMENT.

THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

LET'S MEET OUR PANELIST.

SHE'S THE MEDIA VETERAN, WENDY WIESE, AND MAKING HER DONNYBROOK DEBUT, WE WELCOME JESSICA ROGEN, DIGITAL EDITOR AT ST. PUBLIC RADIO.

WE ALSO WELCOME JOE HOLLEMAN.

YOU KNOW HIM FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH, AND THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE KIRKWOOD HIGH SCHOOL HALL OF FAME, MR. ALVIN REID, WHO WAS INDUCTED ON SATURDAY.

>> LOOK.

.. WE SPOKE TO CLASSES ON FRIDAY.

BUT SATURDAY WAS LIKE -- I REALLY FELT HONORED THEY DID A TERRIFIC JOB.

LISA WADE AND EVERYONE WHO PUT ON A PHENOMENAL EVENT.

OVERWHELMED BY IT ON.

I TRULY AM.

>> THE BAND KEPT PLEAING WHILE YOU WERE GIVING YOUR SPEECH, AND YOU WOULDN'T STOP TALKING.

>> IT'S LIKE THE OSCARS.

>> I WANT TO WELCOME BRAND-NEW ARTWORK ON THE DONNYBROOK SET, THIS TIME HEY, THANK YOU, MELISSA BAUER.

YOU CAN FIND HER WORK AT MELISSA BAUER FINE ART.COM, AND THAT BEAUTIFUL QUILT WILL BE ON OUR SET FOR ONE FULL MONTH.

IT'S PART OF OUR ROTATING ARTWORK EXHIBIT HERE AT NINE PBS.

MELISSA BAUER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING US OUT.

JOE, IT WAS VERY UNUSUAL, BECAUSE THE CHALLENGER IN TUESDAY'S PRIMARY, ONE OF THEE, CARA SUSPENDS E. ST. LOUIS ALDER WOMAN GOT TWICE AS MANY VOTES AS THE IN COUPLE DENT, TISHAURA JONES, WHO GENERALLY SPEAKING HAS A CERTAIN ADVANTAGE BEING AN INCUMBENT WITH NAME RECOGNITION, PERHAPS MONEY, PERHAPS ORGANIZATION, BUT THE TWO WILL NOW FACE EACH OTHER LESS THAN 35 DAYS FROM NOW IN THE APRIL FINALS.

WHAT'S YOUR AN.. >> I WAS SURPRISED, I WON'T SAY SHOCKED BUT SURPRISED BY THE MARGIN THAT SPENCER WON BY.

BEING AN INCUMBENT CARRIES ITS OWN BAGGAGE.

YOU ARE NEVER MORE POPULAR THAN ON THE FIRST DAY YOU TAKE OFFICE, AND IT GOES DOWNHILL FROM THERE.

WE KNEW THERE WAS SOME THINGS MAYOR JONES HAD PROBLEMS WITH, SNOW REMOVAL, SEVERAL THINGS, BUT I WAS SURPRISED THE GAP WAS 68% TO 35%.

I SEE THAT AS NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, BUT I SEE THAT AS A REALLY HUGE HILL FOR JONES TO HAVE TO CLIMB IN THE APRIL ELECTION.

I TH..

WINNER CLEARLY.

>> I THINK IF MORE P.. THAT WOULD BE THE MAYOR'S CHANCE AT -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL REDUCING THE DEFICIT, MAYBE OVERCOMING IT.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

WHEN YOU ARE DOWN ALMOST 2 T.. THAT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO COME BACK FROM.

I THINK ALONG WITH THE REASONS YOU LISTED AND OTHERS THAT MAYBE PEOPLE WERE SAYING LIKE THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT I WAS THINKING THE OTHER DAY, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO RIGHT AFTER TISHAURA WAS ELECTED, SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THE LOUIS REID AND THE GANG STARTED AND IT WENT CRAZY, AND THEN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY AND THINGS THAT REALLY WEREN'T IN HER CONTROL, BUT IT NEVER SEEMED TO STOP.

WE GOT INTO THE MAYORAL CYCLE AND THEN IT WAS SNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE COMING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

>> IT WAS -- DON'T FORGET, AS WE WERE RAMPING UP, IT WAS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR STORY.

IT WAS SNOWMAGGEDDEN.

I THINK THEY ARE PUTTING A LOT OF THE EMPHASIS ON SNOW MA GO SNOW MA GO AHEADEN.

AND BILL MCCLELLAN TALKS ABOUT YARD SIGNS.

AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'S THE NEW PLACE TO WATCH THE YARD SIGNS.

I ..

I KNOW WHO LIVE IN THE CITY WHO WERE OUT THERE FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF CARA SPENCER, BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN PRETTY STRONG TISHAURA SUPPORTERS UP UNTIL NOW, BUT WHEN DR. KEN WARREN OF ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY SAYS IT'S CARA'S, IT'S CARA'S.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, ALVIN TO THE EXTENT THAT SHE WAS PROBABLY TARNISHED, THE MAYOR, BY THE ST. LOUIS SCHOOLS BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, AND IF SCHOOLS ARE GOING CRAZY THEY MIGHT SAY THE MAYOR HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT AS WENDY SAYS, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS GOT ISSUES AND THEY ARE BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE FEDS.

AND GIVING MONEY TO QUESTIONABLE ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE JAIL HAS BEEN A MESS.

THE POTHOLES, RECYCLING, THE TRASH.

THERE'S ..

PARKS AND POLICE GENERALLY HAVE DONE WELL.

>> POLICE HAVE SAID THEY WANT CHANGE?

I ..

IN SOUTH ST. LOUIS WHO USED TO LIVE IN WEBSTER, AND THEY KNOW WHAT GOOD SERVICES ARE.

SERVICES HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD.

>> MEGAN GREEN SAID IT'S A BAD TIME FOR INCUMBENTS.

I FORGET THE WOMAN IN THIS ARTICLE, AND SHE SAID IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH INCUMBENTS.

IT'S THE DRIP, DRIP, DRIP OF PROBLEMS FOR THE CURRENT MAYOR.

>> I THINK TURNOUT WAS THE BIG LOSER, JESSICA WITH 17.9% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS COMING OUT.

IT WAS A DECENT MAYORAL RACE WITH 4 CANDIDATES, ALL SOLID, AND YET LESS THAN 1 OUT OF 5 ST. LOUISIANS COULD GET OFF THE COUCH TO VOTE?

>> WITH LESS THAN 18%, THAT IS A BIG DECREASE OR FOR ST. LOUIS A BIG DECREASE FROM FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE SAW 22 PR.

AND 2017 AN EVEN BIGGER DECREASE.

HOWEVE.. PRIMARY VERSUS THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION, WE SEE KIND OF A -- MORE LIKE A 30% TURNOUT.

THERE COULD BE A LOT OF VOTES FOR TISHAURA OUT THERE STILL, MAYBE 25,000.

CAN SHE ACTUAL..

IT'S SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY.

BUT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE.

>> I THINK THERE MAY BE 25, 30,000 VOTES OUT THERE.

THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY ALL GOING TO VOTE FOR TISHAURA?

VOTES TEND NOT TO BREAK DOWN THAT WAY.

MICHAEL BUTLER GOT A LOT OF VOTES AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING WELL, MAYBE MICHAEL BUTLER'S FOLLOWING WILL SWITCH OVER TO CARA SPENCER.

A LOT OF MICHAEL BUTLER'S VOTES CAME FROM WHITE SOUTH SIDE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S EASY TO JUST SAY THIS WILL ALL GO HERE.

>> I THINK YOU CAN SAY THAT THE NORTHWARDS WHICH HAVE BEEN TISHAURA JONES STRONG HOLD DID NOT COME OUT FOR THE PRIMARY.

WILL THEY COME OUT NOW?

>> DON'T FORGET, SALAD VALUE FORGET SAND V ALUE SAYS THERE'S A HUGE DIVERSION.

IN TWO YEARS FROM 2022 TO 20,247,000 AFRICAN-AMERICANS MOVED OUT AND WENT FROM 120,000 TO 113,000.

THOSE ARE VOTERS.

>> HOW MUCH HAS TO DO WITH CONFUSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPROVAL VOTING?

I THINK SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK WHAT?

I WILL J.. OR AS JESSICA IS IMPLYING, THEY ARE GOING TO WAIT FOR THE GENERAL.

>>.. TO THE VOTING BOOTH AND VOTING FOR ONE PERSON.

FOR SCHOOL BOARD 6 PEOPLE MAY BE RUNNING AND THERE'S THREE OPEN SEATS SO YOU VOTE FOR 3.

I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT DOESN'T COMPEL ME TO RUN DOWN THERE AND VOTE.

>> EXPLAIN THAT, BECAUSE SOME OF OUR VIEWERS MAY BE COMPLETELY UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS.

YOU CAN VOTE IN THE ST. LOUIS CITY PRIMARY IF THERE ARE FOUR CANDIDATES, YOU CAN VOTE, ALVIN, FOR ALL FOUR.

>> YOU COULD HAVE VOTED FOR ALL FOUR CANDIDATES, TWO OF YOUR CHOICE, THREE, YEAH.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL UP, AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGES, YOU CAN COME OUT WITH OVER 100%, AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN 18% TURNOUT TO PULL THAT TRICK.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

WHEN THEY FIRST SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT, I WAS LIKE OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

AND NOW I'M LI.. >> IT MAKES NO SENSE.

>> IT DOESN'T.

>> IF SOMEONE LIKE CARA SPENCER, JOE, GETS MORE THAN 50% OF THE VOTE, IN THIS CASE, WHAT DID SHE GET 66%?

68.

>> 68%.

SHOULD SHE HAVE TO FACE A CHALLENGER IN THE FINALS?

>> THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE ON THE ALL ON IN PRIMARY WHERE YOU COULD STILL HAVE TWO RACES, NONPARPARTISAN, NO DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN.

BUT ALL COULD .. RACE.

PEOPLE COULD HAVE WENT IN AND VOTED FOR ONLY ONE PERSON.

THE TOP TWO MOVE ON TO APRIL UNLESS ANY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT ONE VOTE MORE THAN 50%, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE OVER, AND THEY WOULD BE ELECTED.

IF IT WERE THE ALL-IN PRIMARY STYLE WHERE THERE WAS JUST ONE VOTE, CARA SPENCER WOULD ALREADY BE THE MAYOR, BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OVER 50%.

THAT'S ONE METHOD OF DOING IT.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE A REPUBLICAN RACE IN THE CITY.

WE USED TO HAVE TH..

WERE A WASTE OF MONEY WHERE A CANDIDATE WAS GOING TO GET 20% OF THE VOTE, AND WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SO THE PRIMARY BECAME EVERYTHING.

I THINK THE BEST..

THE ALL IN.

EVERYBODY RUNS, AND ONE VOTE PER PERSON, TOP TWO MORE MOVE ON UNLESS ONE PERSON GETS 50% AND THEY WIN.

>> 30 SECONDS TO GO, BUT IF ST. LOUISIANS WANT THE CITY TO SHINE, THEY HAVE TO GET OFF THE COUCH AND ENGAGE IN DEMOCRACY.

EITHER THEY ARE VERY SATISFIED WITH TRASH, POTHOLES AND RECYCLING, OR THEY ARE TUNED OUT.

RECYCLING AND POTHOLES, IT'S YOUR PROBLEM IF YOU DON'T VOTE.

>> I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT.

>>.. OFF THE COUCH AND JOIN US MAY 8 FOR DONNYBASH.

IT'S LIVE HERE ARE THE DETAILS.

>> I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TONIGHT FOR TWO THINGS.

FOR EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU TO BECOME A NEW MEMBER OR RENEW YOUR MEMBERSHIP OR TWO THE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO OFFER YOU WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

LE.. YOU ALL ABOUT IT.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL ONE TIME YOU GET THE INCREDIBLE LIMITED EDITION NINE PBS BIRTHDAY MUG.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

IT IS A LIMITED RUN.

WE ARE RUNNING OUT.

THAT MEANS DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME.

DON'T .. YOU WANT THE MUG, YOU'VE GOT TO CALL US RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE RUNNING OUT REAL FAST.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, ONE TIME CONTRIBUTION, WE CAN SEND YOU A TICKET TO DONNYBASH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE MOST INCRE.. YEAR ON THURSDAY, MAY 8 OF 2025, AND THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AT 5:30 P.M. AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL, MY VERY FAVORITE PLACE.

BUT DONNYBASH IS AN INCREDIBLE PARTY WHERE YOU GET TO MEET AND GREET WITH YOUR FAVORITE DONNYBROOKERS AND FAVORITE NINE PBS PERSONALITIES.

IT'S AN INCRED..

BUT THEN THERE'S MORE BECAUSE AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH SUSTAINING LEVEL, SUPER EASY TO BECOME A SUSTAINER, BUT YOU CAN GET THE MUG THAT I TALKED ABOUT AND ALSO TWO TICKETS TO DONNYBASH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S RIG.. MAY 8, AN INCREDIBLE NIGHT.

YOU MEET THE DONNYBROOKERS.

ONE COCKTAIL PARTY THE NIGHT BEFORE AND YOU GET TO SEE A LIVE TAPING OF DONNYBROOK AND A COCKTAIL PARTY FOLLOWING.

YOU GET TO SEE OTHER NINE PBS PERSONALITIES.

IT'S A.. DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

ALL OF THESE LEVELS ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, AND YOU RECEIVE THEM WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER.

.. 1-800-568-9099, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WILL GO OVER TO THE TABLE WITH MY FRIEND AND VERY FAMILIAR FACES.

>>..

WHEN SPRING HAS SPRUNG, EVERYBODY'S FANCY TURNS TO THOUGHTS OF DONNYBASH.

2025, MAY 8th AT THE SHELDON AUDITORIUM.

IT'S A H.. MAY 8th.

THE END OF WORLD WAR II IN EUROPE?

.. >> YOUR BIRTHDAY?

>> NOT MY BIRTHDAY, HARRY S. TRUMAN WILL BE TURNING 141 YEARS OLD AT DONNYBASH.

>> DANG.

>> WOW.

>.. DONNYBROOK.

>>.. >> HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT PANELIST, BUT HE WON'T BE THERE.

I THINK HE'S PROBABLY GOT A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT AT 141, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.

BUT WE WILL BE HERE.

SIX DONNYBROOKERS WILL BE ON SITE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.

THAT IS RIGHT.

DONNYBASH 2025 NOW WITH 100% MORE JOE HOLLEMAN, MAKING HIS DONNYBASH DEBUT.

>> I THOUGHT WE WE.. BE SELLING THIS SHOW.

[LAUGHTER].

>&g.. >> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

>>..

FRESHMAN, SO THE REST OF THE DONNYBROOKERS GET TO HAZE YOU.

YOU HAVE TO GET THE COFFEE AND PROVIDE ALL THE SANDWICHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT SERIOUSLY, DONNYBASH IS THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS PUBLIC AFFAIR.

IT IS THE CROWN JEWEL OF PUBLIC BROADCASTING IN ST. LOUIS'S SOCIAL SEASON.

EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT TIME.

EVERYBODY ENJOYS IT.

YOU GET A FULL HOUR OF DONNYBROOK RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR ORDINARY 27 MINUTE AND 48 SECONDS.

THERE YOU GO.

SO YOU GET TWICE THE DONNYBROOK FOR THE SAME COST.

THOUGHTS ON HOW YOU PREPARE FOR DONNYBASH?

>..

REPORTING, ALVIN'S REPORTING, SARAH'S.

>> BILL'S?

IT'S..

IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, BECAUSE THANKS TO THE LOCAL LEADERS AND THEIR POLICIES AND ACTIONS, EVERY WEEK WE HAVE TOO MANY TOPICS AND NOT ENOUGH TIME.

THAT'S REALLY TRUE.

THAT'S WHY WE NOW HAVE LAST CALL, THE NEW SERVICE WHERE WE GET MORE LOCAL TOPICS IN, AND WE THROW THE TOPICS OUT ON THIS TABLE.

LAKE M.. JUMP ON IT.

>>..

SCIENTIST.

IT W.. EINSTEIN APPEARED ON THE STAGE ONE TIME.

THINK ABOUT ALL THE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN IN HERE BEFORE GOING ON STAGE.

THEN I LAUGH AND SAY NOW IT'S OUR TURN.

>> DID YOU KNOW THAT THE VERY FIRST GENERAL MANAGER OF CHANNEL 9 WAS ARTHUR HOLLY COMPTON WHO HAD A NOBEL PRIZE IN PHYSICS, I BELIEVE.

>.. >> IN TERMS OF SEASONALLY WITH SPRING, IT IS A FABULOUS GROUP OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING OUT OF THEIR CAVES FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND IT'S JUST EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THE OPINIONS OF EVERYBODY ELSE.

PEOPLE, I THINK, KIND OF MIRROR THE CIVILITY OF THE PANEL.

IT'S JUST A GREAT, GREAT NIGHT.

I THINK THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO COME BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR.

>>..

THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE HERE IS INCOMPARABLE BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER TELEVISION STATION DOING THE LOCAL COVERAGE.

"LIV.. DONNYBROOK, AND TOMORROW CEMENT LAND WHICH IS A DOCUMENTARY ON BOB CASSLY.

>> TELL THEM WHY YOU ARE RUNNING HOME TONIGHT?

>> I'M RUNNING HOM.. CATCH THE HIGHWAY MEN, BUT FIRST WE NEED TO SEND IT BACK.

>> I LOVE THE DESCRIPTION OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS PUBLIC AFFAIR.

HE'S NOT RUN.

THIS IS THE MEMBERSH.. BECAUSE IF YOU COME TO DONNYBASH, EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT'S SURROUNDING YOU IS ALSO A MEMBER OF NINE PBS.

SO YOU'RE IN GREAT COMPANY.

SO HOPEFULLY DON'T JUST THINK ABOUT IT, BECOME A MEMBER RIGHT NOW.

YOU DON'T WA..

INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT WE WILL SEND YOU AS A THANK YOU IF YOU JOIN US RIGHT NOW.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL, THAT BEAUTIFUL NINE PBS 70 BIRTHDAY MUG.

IT'S AN EXTREM..

EDITION.

I'M NOT KIDDING YOU ..

THIS THING IS FLYING OFF OUR SHELVES.

..

WHEN YOU DO, YOU WOULD HAVE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY.

FRIENDS TELL THEIR FRIENDS ABOUT DONNYBROOK, AND THESE AMAZING MUGS.

I WOULDN'T BE A GOOD FRIEND IF YOU DIDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THIS, DONNYBASH IS ON MAY 8 OF 2025.

THAT IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

AND IT'S AT 5:30 P.M. AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING SUMMER NIGHT AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

JOIN US AT DONNYBASH.

BUT THERE'S ONE MORE LEVEL I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT.

THERE'S $15 A MONTH SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP LEVEL WHERE YOU GET THE BEAUTIFUL 70th BIRTHDAY MUG AND TWO TICKETS TO SEE DASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON ON MAY 8.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL EVENT.

LIKE I SAID, YOU ARE GOING TO BE JOINED BY TONS OF MEMBERS.

DON'T MISS IT.

GIVE US A CALL AT 1-800-568-9099.

CALL OR NE.. OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE NINENET.ORG.

JOIN THE.. AMAZING DISCUSSION AGAIN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN MAY.

YOU HAVE BEEN TO MANY OF THOSE DONNYBASHES, AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

COMPTROLLER'S RACE.

THIS IS A FUN RACE, ..

THERE IS A COMPTROLLER IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, AND THIS POSITION IS PRETTY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS THE GUY OR THE GAL WHO PAYS THE BILLS BUT ALSO IS ONE OF THREE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND VOTES ON ALL THE BUDGETS, AND THE INCUMBENT LOST BY JUST 5 VOTES TO DONNA BARINGER, THE INCUMBENT OF COURSE BEING DARLENE GREEN.

YOUR ANALYSIS OF THIS ONE?

IT WAS KIND OF SURPRISING ABOUT DARLENE, EACH BY THAT MARGIN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK SHE CAN STILL COME UP WITH A WIN IN 35 DAYS, DARLENE GREEN.

SHE'S HAD A TOUGH COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS SORT OF OUT OF HER CONTROL.

THERE WAS SOFTWARE ISSUES, AND I THINK SHE WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR A WHILE.

AND EVERYBODY HAS HAD SOME KIND OF FORM OF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS KEPT THEM ON THE SIDELINES.

MAYB.. DONNA BARINGER, VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I LO.. OF DITCHING SOCIAL MEDIA AND GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY ENGAGING AT ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS MEETINGS, EXPLAINING THE JOB OF THE COMPTROLLER.

EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NOT AN ACCOUNTANT, SOME PEOPLE THINK NO, GOT TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT.

I THINK THAT'S SORT OF WHERE IT'S GOING TO HINGE FOR HER, AND THAT AND DARLENE GREEN IS SOMEBODY WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IF THEY HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION, AS IT CERTAINLY APPEARS WE MIGHT, AND MAYBE THEY WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT THIRD, YOU KNOW, BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND APPORTIONMATE PERSON THE SAME.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT RACE TO THE END, I THINK.

>> THE WAY YOU TOOK ABOUT TWO CANDIDATES AND NOBODY GETS OVER 50%.

IF THOSE 5,000 VOTES ARE OUT THERE, I THINK I CAN GET 600 MORE THAN DONNA BARINGER DID AND WIN THIS ELECTION.

>> UNLESS THEY ALREADY VOTED FOR YOU.

BECAUSE IN A.. FOLKS WHO VOTED FOR METCALF MIGHT HAVE VOTED FOR DARLENE GREEN.

>> THEY .. BARINGER IF THAT WAS THE CASE.

I'M SAYING YOU SAID IF THEY VOTED FOR DARLENE GREEN AND CELESTE METCALF.

>> SHE WOULDN'T ENDORSE EITHER CANDIDATE.

AFTE..

THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM WAS QUALIFIED.

>> WE WILL SEE.. YEARS.

&g.. DARLENE GREEN HAS BEEN IN OFFICE THREE YEARS, AND HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE SHE HAD AN ACTUAL COMPETITOR?

>> '95.

>..

TOOK THE OFFICE.

>> CAN SHE ACTUALLY RALLY AND CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE DONNA BARINGER HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT.

>> IF SHE GOT CRUSHED LIKE TISHAURA DID, I WOULD SAY NO, SHE CAN'T.

>> THIS IS THE KIND OF LOSS THAT TISHAURA JONES COULD HAVE BEEN OKAY WITH.

I THINK AT LEAST D.. IS SEEING A PATH TO VICTORY.

I THINK IF YOU ARE IN THE JONES' CAMP RIGHT NOW YOU ARE FIGHTING HARD TO FIND IT BACK.

HOWEVER, I THINK DID DOES SPEAK TO AN ANTIINCUMBENT, NOT SO MUCH ANTIINCUMBENT.

AND AS M.. PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY WITH THE WAY THE CITY IS OPERATING RIGHT NOW.

>> DARLENE GREEN'S BIG ADVANTAGE IS PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ANYMORE.

ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, REPORTS THAT AIRPORT CONTRACTORS WERE QUITTING BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GETTING PAID BY THE CITY, AND THEY WERE BLAMING THE COMPTROLLER.

YOU KN..

RECENTLY LIKE A SNOWSTORM, MAYBE SHE WOULD BE IN TROUBLE.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD RACE.

>> DARLENE GRE..

ENOUGH TO TAKE TWO STEPS AWAY FROM TISHAURA JONES ON THE GRANT PROGRAM.

>.. SHOULD BE AN AUDITOR, CPA.

>> SHE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT EVER HAS BEEN.

>> SURROUND YOURSELF WITH GOOD PEOPLE.

YO..

DOESN'T NEED TO BE A GENERAL BUT HAS TO SURROUND HIMSELF BY GOOD GENERALS AND SAME IS TRUE FOR THE COMPTROLLER.

UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI ST. LOUIS HAS ANNOUNCED IT'S CUTTING.. TRACK TEAM.

IT WAS REPORTED BY ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE.

THAT'S HOR.

AND SI.. FROM ITS BUDGET.

WE KNOW WEBSTER UNIVERSITY IS GOING INTO ITS ENDOWMENT TO PAY FOR OPERATING MATTERS, AND LINDENWOOD THEY ACTUALLY GOT RID OF THEIR GYMNASTICS TEAM ONE YEAR AFTER IT WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

THESE LO..

IN TROUBLE.

>> YES, AND I DO WANT TO ASK, WHAT IS THE ENDOWMENT OF THE SCHOOLS TO KEEP TRACK AND FIELD BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE SITTING ON ALL THIS LOOT, OH, WE HAVE TO CUT 10 MILLION.

MAYBE WE COULD COMPROMISE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER UNIVERSITY YOU'RE AT.

I'M BY AS.

I WANT TO PROTECT SPORTS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF ATHLETES THAT COMPETE IN A COLLEGIATE SPORT DO NOT COMPETE IN FOOTBALL OR BASKETBALL OR MAKING MONEY AS FAR AS A COLLEGE TEAM IS CONCERNED.

I KN..

DECISIONS.

QUIT..

COLLEGES AND HIGH SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY, IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON WITH WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO, I THINK THE MINUTE YOU SAY WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT.

WE ARE GOING TO CUT A SPORT TO SAVE MONEY, IT GETS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON AT UM ST. LOUIS.

>> MAYBE, JUST POSSIBLY WITH ALL OF THESE COLLEGES BEING IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK HAVE WE BEEN WISED IN OUR EXPENDITURES OVER THE YEARS?

YOU .. PROGRAMS AT A COLLEGE AND FIND OUT THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR THEMSELVES, AND YOU CAN'T FUND IT, SO YOU CUT THEM.

MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CREATED.

MAYBE YOUR SPE.. CONTROL.

TH.. AT LEAST HAS TO BE INTRODUCED.

>> AS FAR AS SIUE EDWARDSVILLE AND THEIR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AS MANY PEOPLE.

.. JESSICA, BUT MOST OF US ON THIS PANEL, WE REPRESENT THE OLD WORLD ORDER.

THERE IS A NEW WORLD..

LOT OF PEOPLE WISED UP ABOUT TUITION COST AND IT'S CRIPPLING, AND IT'S A LEGACY THAT KIDS ARE CARRYING THAT KEEP THEM FROM GETTING HOUSES AND ALL OF THAT.

I HAVE READ THAT VO-TECH SCHOOLS, THAT THEIR ENROLLMENTS ARE UP.

I THINK THERE'S A NE..

THINKING, AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS A FEED FOR THAT MANY COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.

IT'S AWFUL.

>> ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA WHERE THE POPULATION IS STAG NAPT.

AND REGIONAL COLLEGES THAT ARE GREAT FOR SOCIAL ADVANCEMENT FOR THE WORKING CLASS.

BUT A TRACK TEAM, EVERY HIGH SCHOOL HAS A TRACK TEAM.

YOU TELL ME A COLLEGE CAN'T AFFORD A TRACK TEAM?

>> IT DREW AS MANY PEOPLE AS MY HIGH SCHOOL TRACK TEAM DID, WHICH WAS 7 PARENTS AND NOBODY ELSE.

&g.. DO WITH REVENUE.

YOU SAID IT BEST.

>> BUT IT COSTS MONEY.

CLEARLY IT COSTS MONEY TO HAVE A TEAM AND TRAVEL.

>> A COUPLE OF GALLONS OF GAS?

COME ON.

DON'T TELL ME THERE ISN'T AN ADMINISTRATIVE COST THAT YOU COULD CUT.

YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT'S FOR STUDENTS TO CUT?

>> LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT I ORIGINALLY SAID.

LOOKING AT HOW YOU SPEND MONEY COMPLETELY, DO I THINK ADMINISTRATORS COULD GET AXED IN A VARIETY OF THE EDUCATION FIELD WITHOUT IT.

>> PROBABLY TRUE.

LAST WEEK WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY'S BASEBALL TEAM HAD THE VERY LAST GAME AGAINST YOUR ALMALMA MATER.

IT'S KIND OF SAD.

>> A BIG CHANGE, MAYOR TISHAURA JONES STARTED A REPARATIONS COMMISSION WITH AMONG OTHER THINGS FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILIES WHO'S ANCESTORS WERE ENSLAVED.

THIS.. REPORTED THAT SHE SAID THAT REPARATIONS ARE OFF THE TABLE.

>> SO THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, THE SHE DID MORE THAN A YEAR FOR THIS, COMMISSIONED TO MAKE THE REPORT.

REALLY THE ONLY THING ..

TRULY WANT IS DIRECT CASH PAYMENTS BUT SHE'S SAYING IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

THAT'S NOT G.. SUPPORT.

AND YOU ALSO K.. WAS THIS COMMISSION DOING THIS WHOLE TIME, AND THE MAYOR SAID HER OFFICE HAS NOT FULLY READ THE REPORT YET, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO CASH PAYMENTS.

>> THAT WAS SURPRISING, BECAUSE YOUR REPORT INDICATED THE REPORT CAME OUT IN OCTOBER BUT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HASN'T READ IT FULLY YESTERDAY.

>> I'M ALSO GOING TO GO BACK TO THE POINT WHERE IT SAYS IT MAY BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

>> THAT'S KIND OF BIG.

>> WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE?

>> IT MAY BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, BUT I SAID RIGHT HERE, THIS IS GOING NOWHERE, AND THIS IS A WASTE OF ENERGY, AND THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.

AND NOW WE ARE TO THE POINT WELL, WE CAN'T DO IT ANYWAY.

>> HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY SAY HEY, LET'S NOT GO THERE.

ESPECIALLY UNTIL I'M REELECTED.

MAKE WE CAN GO THERE IN TURN, TOO.

BUT THERE WASN'T.. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF VISION.

>> TO ME, IT WASN'T EACH VISION.

>> THERE WAS A THING PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT CITY GOVERNMENT.

WHY ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME ON THIS WHEN THE GARBAGE IS NOT BEING PICKED UP?

WHATEVER ENERGY, THOUGHT, TIME AND EFFORT YOU ARE PUTTING INTO THIS, WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE?

>> LIKE THE VISA CARDS, WHAT SHE WAS TRYING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN I CALLED HER A TRANSFORMATIVE CANDIDATE WHEN SHE FIRST WAS RUNNING, TRANSFORMATIONAL CANDIDATE, SHE TALKED ABOUT BLACK GIRL MAGIC.

I THINK SHE WANTED TO SHINE A LIGHT ON PEOPLE WHO NEVER HAVE THEIR NEEDS ADDRESSED.

I THINK THAT WAS PART OF IT.

EVEN THOUGH BEING A JOURNALIST AND SOMEWHAT OF A SENDIC, AND YOU ARSENDSENDIC, THEREWAS HOPE THERE.

SHE OFFERED SOME HOPE.

>> THIS IS ONE ISSUE, AND THIS WAS ONE ISSUE THAT WAS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

YOU .. THAT ON THIS PROGRAM.

>> WELL, WE COULD USE CASH PAYMENTS HERE AT NINE PBS.

AND WHEN YOU MAKE ONE, YOU CAN GET A TICKET TO OUR DONNYBROOK LIVE BROADCAST AND FUND RAISER ON MAY 8th.

HERE ARE MORE DETAILS.

>> IF YOU LOVE WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING RIGHT NOW AND SAY I WISH I COULD SEE THAT LIVE, BOY, DO I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU, IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT BECOMING A MEMBER, DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, DO IT RIGHT NOW.

GIVE THE NUMBER A CALL ON YOUR SCREEN.

I ..

OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU GIFTS WE CAN SEND YOU.

AT THE 75-DOLLAR ONE TIME YOU GET THE AMAZING 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

NINE PBS HAS BEEN AROUND 70 WHOLE YEARS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF VIEWERS LIKE YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE WITH US AND DRINK YOUR MORNING COFFEE EVERY MORNING CELEBRATING OUR 70th, DO IT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED, LIMITED TIME EDITION.

WHEN IT'S GONE.. GOOD.

GET A SINGLE TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE IN PERSON.

AND THAT'S A LIVE TAPING OF DONNYBROOK ON THE STAGE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

IT IS MY FAVORITE EVENT ALL YEAR, AND IT'S MAY 8, 2025, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AT 5:30 P.M.

IT'S.. AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE THE BEAUTIFUL 70th BIRTHDAY MUG AND TWO TICKETS TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE IN PERSON.

WHAT B.. ON A SUMMER NIGHT?

I'M TELLING YOU YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

GIVE US A CALL OR TEXT GIVE TO 1-800-568-9099.

OR GO TO.. NINENET.ORG.

THAT'S NINENET.ORG.

RIGHT NOW LET'S GO OVER TO THE TABLE TO MY FRIEND GAYLE AND THE OTHER FRIENDS THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> WE ARE BACK TO TALK ABOUT DONNYBASH 2025.

MAY 8th, AND I DO STAND CORRECTED, NOT ONLY IS IT HARRY TRUMAN'S BIRTHDAY, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, IT WILL ALSO BE THE 80th ANNIVERSARY AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II IN EUROPE.

WE ARE TRULY, TRULY LIVING UP TO THE REPUTATION OF EDUCATIONAL TELEVISION TONIGHT.

SEE WHAT YOU LEARN, BUT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT DONNYBASH, WHICH IS REALLY THREE EVENTS IN ONE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU'VE GOT BEFORE THE SHOW THERE'S A COCKTAIL HOUR WHERE YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO RUB ELBOWS WITH THE BOOKERS, AND THEN WBOOKDONNYBROOKERS.

AND ACTION WITH A Q AND A SESSION, ALWAYS A FUN TIME, AND FOLLOWING THAT, THERE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER RECEPTION AND DESSERT RECEPTION AFTERWARDS WHERE YOU WILL ONCE AGAIN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS, DO A LITTLE DEBRIEFING OVER SOME PAST DESSERTS, AND IT'S JUST A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TIME.

YOU KNOW, DONNYBROOK, DONNYBASH, RATHER, IS ONE OF THOSE BIG PUBLIC EVENTS WHERE YOU GET TO SEE YOUR ADORING PUBLIC.

WHAT GOES INTO YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE GETTING READY TO MEET YOUR ADORING PUBLIC?

>> OKAY.

TH.. YOU KNOW, WE LIVE OUR LIVES ON THURSDAYS BEFORE WE COME HERE, LIKE PART OF A DAY THAT WE WORKED OR DONE WHATEVER.

DONNYBASH DAY IS ALMOST LIKE BACK WHEN I USED TO ACTUALLY PLAY FOR REAL GAMES, AND I NEED TO BE OFF MY FEET AND JUST RELAX ALL DAY, BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH FUN, BUT IT STARTS BEFORE THE SHOW.

THEN THERE'S AFTER THE SHOW.

BUT I HAVE SO MUCH FUN TALKING TO PEOPLE AND MEETING PEOPLE AND GREETING PEOPLE THAT ENJOY THE SHOW BUT CHANNEL 9 AS WELL.

IT'S AN EVENT AND IT'S ONE THAT WE ENJOY TO A POINT THAT WE ARE EXHAUSTED.

MAYBE I'M SPEA..

BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH I PUT INTO IT AND ENJOY IT.

>> I WONDER IF THEY CAN EVER GET US ON THE LAZY SUSANS BECAUSE WE ARE CONSTANTLY TURNING AROUND WHERE WE ARE AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO TALK TO EVERYBODY.

BUT IT'S SUCH A GR..

SECTION OF PEOPLE AND AGES.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE MET YOUNG COUPLES WHO JUST MOVED HERE, AND THEY WERE TOLD TO START WATCHING DONNYBROOK SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE LOCAL SCENE, AND THEY KEEP WATCHING FOREVER.

IT'S A GRE.. >> THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SIXTH PERSON AT THE TABLE.

IT'S ALWAYS FIVE BECAUSE SARAH AND JOE ROTATE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

SARAH, JOE, BILL, WENDY, ALVIN AND ME.

>> AND YOU AND SARAH ARE GOING TO BE OBJECTIFIED BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CANDY A EYE CANDY.

>> IT'S LIKE TOM JONES IN 1977 AT THE MGM, THE HOUSE JUST GOES WILD.

>> START SELLING TICKETS IN KIRKWOOD 6 MONTHS BEFORE.

>> NOW THAT'S HE'S THE HALL OF FAME.

&g.. TICKETS, AND THEY GET BID ON FOR KIRKWOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT FOUNDATION SPRING FLING.

IT'S LITERALLY THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE SHOW ON THURSDAY.

SO I'VE ALREADY TOLD HIM, I SAID LOOK, WE'VE GOT TO TURN THIS AROUND REAL QUICK THIS YEAR.

BUT IT'S REALLY A HIGHLIGHT, TRUST ME, IT'S NOT THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING UP FOR BIDS GOING ON, BUT THEY REALLY ENJOY BEING ABLE FOR TWO TO FOUR PEOPLE TO GET TO COME.

AND SO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THAT.

>> GOOD AT ANY PRICE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE A.. >> I LOVE THAT WENDY WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT AGES THAT YOU SEE AT DONNYBASH.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST FUN THINGS ABOUT THIS.

IT'S SUCH A DIVERSE CROWD, AND NINE PBS, WE CONNECT TO MULTIPLE GENERATIONS FROM LITTLE KIDS TO, YOU KNOW, HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

WHO KNOWS, RIGHT?

WE APPEAL TO EVERYONE BECAUSE WE LOVE TO TELL YOUR STORIES, AND WE ARE LICENSED TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH MEANS WE BELONG TO YOU.

SO WHEN SU BECOME A MEMBER, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS OPTION OF THAT 75th BIRTHDA $75.75, 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

HELP US GET .. AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, ONE TIME, YOU GET A TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL ON MAY 8th.

IT'S GOING TO BE MY FAVORITE SUMMERTIME EVENT.

I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THEN AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON, AND ALSO THAT BEAUTIFUL 70th BIRTHDAY MUG, BUT DON'T DRAG YOUR FEET ON THIS.

IT.. YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THE MUG AND DON'T WANT TO MISS THE TICKETS.

LET'S JOIN DONNYBROO.. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE WILL SEE YOU THIS SPRING.

WENDY WIESE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER MEASURE.

ACTUALLY WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, HAVEN'T WE, THAT WOULD IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI NOT ALLOW FOOD STAMP RECIPIENTS, ACTUALLY IT'S CALLED SNAP, SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITIONAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, FOR USING THOSE STATE MONIES ON CANDY OR SODA.

IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED FOR YEARS AS WE KNOW.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN THAT SODA LEADS TO CANCER AND DIABETES AND ALL SORTS OF HEALTH CONCERNS.

CANDY HAS NO NUTRITIONAL VALUE EITHER.

.. ASSISTANCE FOR NUTRITION, YOU CAN ONLY USE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NUTRITIOUS.

>> THE L.. JAMIE GRAGG OF OZARK DOWN IN SOUTHWEST MISSOURI.

HE'S DYING THE SNAP PAYMENTS AND SODA CUMMINGS T COUNSEL ASSUMPTION TO THE DOWNFALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

THERE ..

FAMILIES THAT ALSO OVER DO THE SODA AND CANDY.

TO ME, I UNDERSTAND THE COMMON SENSE YOU WOULD WANT THE HEALTHIER FOODS TO BE THE OPTION.

.. OF PACKAGING, WE'RE SO CONSUMER ORIENTED RIGHT NOW, IF YOU TWEAKED PACKAGING A LITTLE BIT, PUT HEALTHIER FOODS IN FUN PACKAGING AND DON'T TELL THE KIDS THAT ARE EATING KALE OR WHATEVER, THAT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IT SEE.. YOU ARE A LOWER INCOME FAMILY AND CAN'T HAVE AN OCCASIONAL SODA POP OR MAYBE CANDY.

THINGS ARE TOUGH RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE ARE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT -- PEOPLE ARE EAEATING.

>> THEY ARE SAYING THE TAXPAYERS SHOULDN'T PAY FOR YOU TO HAVE SODA AND CANDY WHEN WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED YOU TO DO WAS BUY EGGS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU.

THE NEXT PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING THE RIGHT NUTRITION.

LET'.. >> THERE WAS A PROGRAM, I BELIEVE IT WAS MURPHY AND HE SEEMED TO BE PUSHING BACK SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THE KIND OF NANNY STATE.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WAND WHERE WE ARE DIGGING INTO PEOPLE'S GROCERY BAGS.

>> BOY, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME, BUT I DO BELIEVE YOU SHOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO BUY THINGS THAT ARE CERTAIN NUTRITION LEVEL.

I ALSO KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT DO USE SNAP IS NOT THE ONLY FOOD THAT THEY PURCHASE.

DECIDE TO USE YOUR MONEY TO BUY THINGS LIKE THAT.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THIS ARE COMING FROM A LOT OF BLAZES THAT I DON'T EVER, EVER WANT TO GO TO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BOY, I JUST LEAN TO THAT'S OKAY WITH ME.

>> WHY SHOULDN'T WE HAVE COMMON SENSE?

>> THERE'S THAT,..

THE GREATEST DEFINITION OF CANDY IF YOU LOOK AT THE BILL.

IT INCLUDES ANYTHING IN A BAR SHAPE THAT HAS NUTS.

WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE BUYING GRANOLA BARS WITH SNAP MONEY?

>> THANK YOU, JESSICA.

>> GRANOLA BARS AREN'T GOOD FOR YOU EITHER.

>> BUT THEY HAVE ROLLED OATS.

>> NO.

I LO..

THEY ARE NOT HEALTHY.

BREAD IS NOT HEALTHY EITHER FRANKLY.

AND THEY CAN BUY GRANOLA BARS, JUST WITH THEIR OWN MONEY.

THIS IS SUPPLEMENTAL.

>> WHERE DOES THIS GO, THOUGH?

DO WE EXTEND IT TO THE NEXT THING THAT IS CANDY LIKE?

>> JESSICA, AS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T USE FOOD STAMPS OR SNAP FOR CIGARETTES OR ALCOHOL, AND WITH THE TREMENDOUS PROGRAM CALLED WOMEN INFANTS CHILDREN, YOU CAN ONLY BUY NUTRITIOUS FOOD.

YOU CAN'T BUY CANDY,.. CHEETOS.

AN..

NUTRITION FOR CHILDREN -- I KNOW THE GROCERS AND PEOPLE WHO MAKE BEVERAGES DISAGREE WITH ME.

>> THEY WILL SAY IT WON'T MAKE IT.

THEY WANT TO.

LOOK.

..

IF I BUY THE MICROWAVEABLE.. CASTLE, WHAT IS THAT?

IT'S A STEP ABOVE A SNICKERS BAR RIGHT THERE.

BUT THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE NUTRITIOUS AS OPPOSED TO CANDY, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME BETTER DESIGNED BILL THAT TAKES CARE OF THIS.

>> JOE, I WANT TO ASK YOU, SPEAKING OF FOOD, BEE BETTY RAE'S IS A POPULAR ICE CREAM IN KANSAS CITY.

AND BLUE BELL FROM TEXAS ARRIVED IN OUR STORES RECENTLY.

WE MUST BE AN ICE CREAM EATING TOWN.

.. AND FRITZ'S FROZEN CUSTARD.

DO YOU THINK THAT THIS MARKET WITH SUPPORT ANOTHER COMPETITOR IN THE VERY ALREADY COMPETITIVE ICE CREAM FROZEN CUSTARD MARKET?

>> I SAY BY GOD, I'M READY TO FIND OUT.

>> LET'S ALL DO OUR PART.

>> IT'S ICE CREAM.

THE IDEA CAN IT SUPPORT IT?

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE FREE MARKET WILL SHOW.

YOU COME HERE, AND IF PE.. LIKE YOUR ICE CREAM BETTER THAN A, B OR C, THEY WILL BUY YOUR ICE CREAM MORE.

IF THEY DON'T, YOU WON'T STAY IN BUSINESS VERY LONG.

I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY IT.

&g..

REFLECT THAT MR. BRENNAN, OR PROVOCATEUR IS SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT JUNK FOOD AND ICE CREAM WITH THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE.

>.. TONGUE.

>> WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR.

IF THERE IS RO.. GOOD PRODUCT, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE KIND OF SAD, AND AN ICE CREAM CONE MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>>..

IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME..

IT'S FINE.

I ALSO THINK -.. WOULD SOMEBODY MAKE A LACTOSE FREE ICE CREAM?

THEY SELL IT IN THE STORE BUT DON'T SELL THE TREATS.

>> CLEMENTINES HAS IT.

>> I WILL HAVE TO GO.

>> FROZEN YOGURT?

>> NO.

BUT NOW ANDY'S.. KIRKWOOD, AND I DIDN'T KNOW DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS MUCH FROZEN CUSTARD?

THE DAY IT OPE.. 8 DEGREES OUTSIDE.

THERE WERE.. WE ARE AN ICE CREAM EATING TOWN, SO THE MORE THE MERRIER.

>> I COULD EAT ICE CREAM EVERY DAY.

GREATEST DESSERT FOOD EVER:INVENTED.

>> I NOTICE TH..

BUTTER CAKE FLAVOR.

DO I WANT A KANSAS CITY.

>> TRY IT AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO IT.

>> STICK..

THE BRENNAN BLEND.

DON'T GO AFTER THE MCGRAUGH.

IF MY KIDS GO TO TED DREW'S.

>> IT'S NOT CUTE AT ALL.

>> FUNNY THING IS WHY THEN DO WE LIMIT CASINOS IF WE ARE SAYING LET THE MARKET -- WHY NOT SAY IF YOU WANT TO OPEN UP A CANNABIS SHOP.

&g.. MORE TROUBLE AT A CASINO THAN ICE CREAM.

>> THAT'S THE POWERS AT BE CONTROL THAT, BECAUSE THE MORE CASINOS THE LESS MONEY I MAKE, SO WE WILL CONSTRICT OUR OWN INDUSTRY.

ICE .. EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.

>> THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD ANYBODY BASICALLY ASK WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CASINO AND ICE CREAM SHOP?

>> AND A LOT LESS MONEY AT AN ICE CREAM SHOP MAYBE?

>> ICE CREAM IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

>>..

CALL, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE ON THE DOCK ET THA DOCKET THAT WE COULDN'T GE T TO IN THE FIRST HALF OFFICE.

WRITE US AND WE LOVE THE E-MAILS.

YOU CAN ALSO.. DONNYBROOK STL ON SOSH MEDIA.

CALL THE NINE LINE, AND YOU CAN FIND US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST SOURCE, BUT DON'T FORGET AS I SAID TOPICS WE DIDN'T GET TO IN THE FIRST HALF FIND THOSE ON THE NINE PBS YOUTUBE CHANNEL.

WE CALL THAT LAST CALL.

AT THE SAME TIME WE WILL SEE YOU MAY 8th FOR DONNYBASH.

JOIN US, WON'T YOU?

>> DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORT OF THE BETSY AND THOMAS PATTERSON FOUNDATION AND THE MEMBERS OF NINE PBS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOININGUS FOR ANO THER AMAZING EXCITING TABLE , AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU WHAT BEING A MEMBER MEANS TO US.

WE VALUE SO MUCH.

IF YOU ARE ON THE FENCE AND THINKING ABOUT JOINING RIGHT NOW, DIVE IN.

IT'S SUCH A GREAT FAMILY TO JOIN WITH NINE PBS.

IT'S ONLY BECAUSE OF VIEWERS LIKE YOU THAT WE CONTINUE TO PRODUCE PROGRAMS LIKE DONNYBROOK AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF YOU.

SO WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE YOU INCREDIBLY BY GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THE GIFTS.

HAVE THE 70th BIRTHDAY NINE PBS MUG.

THAT'S THE LIM..

I'M NOT KIDDING YOU GUYS, IT IS INCREDIBLY LIMITED.

WE HAVE A LIMI.. AND ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE FOR GOOD.

CELEBRATE OUR 70 YEARS WITH YOUR MORNING CUP OF COFFEE EVERY DAY WITH THE 75-DOLLAR CONTRIBUTION.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE A TICKET TO DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL ON THURSDAY, MAY 8th.

AND THAT IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

5:..

HERE IN NO TIME.

IT'S THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL.

THEN AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON AND ALSO THAT BEAUTIFUL NINE PBS BIRTHDAY MUG.

THAT MAKES AN AWESOME GIFT FOR ANYBODY THAT YOU KNOW AND LOVE.

YOU CAN INVITE SOMEBODY TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON, AND IT'S A GREAT TIME TO MEET OTHER MEMBERS AND VIEWERS JUST LIKE YOURSELVES.

IT'S A GREAT TIME TO MEET ..

FAVORITE NINE PBS PERSONALITIES.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL BE THERE.

BUT AGAIN, YOU ARE SHOWING UP FOR THE DONNYBROOKERS.

YOU WANT TO SEE THEM.

YOU CAN MEET THEM AT THE COCKTAIL PARTY.

THERE'S ONE BE..

THERE'S ONE AFTER.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON.

SO RIGHT N..

TEXT GIFT TO 1-800-568-9099, BUT LET'S GO OVER TO THE TABLE TO THE DONNYBROOKERS.

>> THANK YOU, MARTY, WE ARE BACK AT THE BIG TABLE.

BUT TO PARAPHRASE THE MOVIE JAWS, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER TABLE, BECAUSE ON MAY 8, 2025, AT THE SHELDON, DONNYBASH IS GOING TO HAVE 6, COUNT THEM, 6 DONNYBROOKERS AT THE TABLE.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

IT IS A RECORD.

EVERYBODY, THE REGULAR CROWD WILL GET 20% LESS TIME, I GUESS, TO TALK, BUT NOT REALLY, BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY GET TWICE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU WOULD HAVE IN AN ORDINARY DONNYBROOK SHOW.

WE ARE NOT HERE TOED THAT.

WE WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE ROOM NINE GROUP DURING THE DAY, DURING THE EDUCATIONAL PORTION OF THE PROGRAMMING.

DONNYBASH IS BECOMING A ST. LOUIS SPRINGTIME TRADITION, PROBABLY SECOND ONLY TO OPENING DAY, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT MANAGEMENT AT CHANNEL 9 IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN GET THE CLYDESDALES TO GO UP AND DOWN THE AISLES OF THE SHELDON BEFORE THE SHOW.

>> JUST ONE.

WALK HIM IN THE BACK, AND TAKE HIM OFF.

>> IT WOULD BE COOL IF THEY COULD BRING IT IN CONVERTIBLES, SMALLER CONVERTIBLES TO GET DOWN THE HALLS OF THE SHELDON.

>> CALL THE SHRINERS.

>> I WILL SETTLE FOR PARKING.

>> GET THEIR EARLY.

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THERE EARLY, BECAUSE THERE'S A COCKTAIL RECEPTION BEFOREHAND.

SO YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THERE TO ENJOY SOME LIVATIONS AND RUB SHOULDERS WITH THE DONNYBROOKERS BEFOREHAND.

THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT BE PARTAKING, ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT MAKE FOR A MORE ENTERTAINING SHOW.

>> LAST TIME YOU SAID .. RUBBING ELBOWS WITH EVERYBODY.

SO IS IT SHOULDERS OR ELBOWS OR BOTH?

>> IT CO.. >> THAT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE.

>> WHAT DID THEY, CHANGE OUR RULES?

>> DON'T TELL BILL MCCLELLAN.

>> WE WILL NOT TELL.

THAT'S WHY WE KEPT THEM OFF TONIGHT.

.. TO THEM.

SO WE ARE NINE WEEKS AWAY FROM THE BIG EVENT.

THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, ARGUING ABOUT, DISCUSSING, AND THE BIGGER QUESTION, NINE WEEKS FROM NOW, WILL THE MOUNDS OF PLOWED SNOW FINALLY BE GONE FROM THE PARKING LOTS OF THE ST. LOUIS METRO AREA?

>> IT DEPENDS WHERE THE MAYOR IS.

>> IF IT SNOWS, WE WILL FIND..

THEY DON'T PLOW THE SIDE STREETS.

BU..

APPARENTLY NEXT WEEK.

IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE A REALLY GOOD DONNYBASH.

BECAUSE IT WILL BE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHEN THE ICE FINALLY CRACKS IN ALASKA AND PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS?

WE WIL.. AND WE TRULY HAD WINTER THIS WINTER.

.. >> IT'S OUR BIG FUND RAISER.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FUND RAISER FOR THIS PROGRAM.

AND EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING WHICH ENDS MARCH 14th.

AND THEY HAVE TO REN.. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT GOES TO BROADCASTS LIKE THIS ONE, IT'S A DOLLAR 60 PER CITIZEN PER YEAR.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD.

>> IT'S WORTH IT.

>> THERE'S NO COMMERCIALS HERE, AND WE PROVIDE PROGRAMMING THAT NO ONE ELSE DOES OR CAN.

>> THAT'S THE TRUTH.

>> THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT THIS SHOW IS ON.

THAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING WORTH IT.

>> OUR S.. >> I DO HATE TO SAY ABOUT COMMERCIAL TV, BUT THE BAR DOES KIND OF KEEP LOWERING, DOESN'T IT?

IT'S VER.. >> THE MEDIA IS TROUBLED.

WE NEED EVERYONE'S SUPPORT.

>> THE BAR MAY BE LOWERING BUT THE BAR WILL BE OPEN ON MAY 8th FOR DONNYBASH AT THE SHELDON.

..

STUDIO.

>> I ALW..

THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHEN DONNYBASH COMES, RIGHT?

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO.. HOPEFULLY WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING, BECAUSE ONE, YOU WILL BE A MEMBER, AND TWO, YOU WILL BE AT DONNYBASH.

WHEN YOU BECOME A MEMBER, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE FANCY THINGS.

AT..

RECEIVE THAT BEAUTIFUL 70th BIRTHDAY BUG, CELEBRATING NINE PBS FOR 70 WHOLE YEARS, AND WE CAN ONLY CONTINUE FOR 70 MORE WITH THE HELP OF MEMBERS AND VIEWERS JUST LIKE YOU.

SO AT THE 75-DOLLAR LEVEL.

AT THE 95-DOLLAR LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE ONE TICKET TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE AT THE SHELDON CONCERT HALL AND GO TO THE COCKTAIL PARTIES.

ONE BEFORE AND THERE'S ONE RIGHT AFTER.

.. TO SEE DONNYBASH.

THEN AT THE 15-DOLLAR A MONTH LEVEL, YOU WILL RECEIVE TWO TICKETS, NOT ONE, BUT TWO TICKETS TO SEE DONNYBASH LIVE, AND THAT 70th BIRTHDAY MUG.

THESE ARE ALL AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES, AND YOU ARE ALL AMAZING, AMAZING MEMBERS AND VIEWERS.

WE APPRECIATE .. OF YOU.

SO GIVE US.. TO THAT NUMBER, 1-800-568-9099 OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE NINENET.ORG.

THAT.. JOIN US FOR DONNYBASH, AND JOIN US AS A MEMBER.

THANKS FOR WATCHING.