>>> NOW, HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE HIPPY TRAIL, A LEGENDARY ROUTE FOR TRAVELERS FROM ISTANBUL TO KATMANDU.

TODAY, OF COURSE, IT IS MUCH TOO DANGEROUS TO TRAVEL THROUGH COUNTRIES LIKE IRAN AND TALIBAN CONTROLLED AFGHANISTAN.

IT IS THE JOURNEY THAT INSPIRED THE RESPECTED TRAVEL WRITER.

NOW STEVES IS ON A DIFFERENT BATTLE AS HE BATTLES PROSTATE CANCER.

HE TELLS US WHY HE BELIEVES TRAVEL IS A VITAL FORCE FOR PEACE.

>> WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

>> WALTER, NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

>> IN 1973, YOU WENT BACKPACKING THROUGH EUROPE.

AND THEN IN '78, YOU DO THIS AMAZING HIPPY TRAIL TRACK, AND YOU RECORD IT IN A NOTEBOOK, IN A JOURNAL WITH A BIC PEN.

AND NOW YOU HAVE GONE BACK.

YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THAT JOURNAL AND YOU PUBLISHED IT.

WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

>> WELL, THANK YOU.

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TRAVELER.

I WAS A PIANO TEACHER BACK THEN.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT BEING A PROFESSIONAL TRAVEL WRITER.

MY STUDENTS WOULDN'T PRACTICE IN THE SUMMER, SO I WOULD SAY I'LL SEE YOU IN SEPTEMBER.

I'M GOING TRAVELING.

I WENT TO EUROPE EVERY YEAR.

I KEPT GOING EAST FROM ISTANBUL IN THAT CLASSIC HIPTY TRAIL.

THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY WAS DOING, ALL THE BACKPACKERS.

IT WAS THE ULTIMATE ROAD TRIP.

EVERY SUMMER, I WOULD BUY A 200-PAGE TOTALLY BLANK BOOK AND FILL IT UP WITH THOUGHTFUL AND DILIGENT HANDWRITING.

I CAN'T EVEN READ MY HANDWRITING NOW.

I HAD MY EMPTY BOOK AND I DID THE TRIP WITH MY BEST BUDDY AND HAPPENED TO DOCUMENT WITH A 60,000 WORD JOURNAL AND PHOTOGRAPH IT ALL ALONG THE WAY.

IT TURNED OUT THAT WAS THE LAST YEAR YOU COULD DO THAT TRAIL BECAUSE THE NEXT YEAR THE AYATOLLAH CAME IN AND IRAN TURNED INTO A DICTATORSHIP.

IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME IN MY LIFE.

IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME, AND I DOCUMENTED IT.

AND I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT DID TO CHANGE MY -- MY PERSPECTIVE.

AND, WALTER, WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, THAT WAS THE COMPOST PILE FROM WHERE I WOULD BECOME AN ADULT.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT EXPERIENCE, I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO GET OUT THERE AND GET TO KNOW THE WORLD.

THAT'S SO FUNDAMENTAL.

I HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT WE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE ABOUT 4% OF HUMANITY.

96% IS OUT THERE.

AND WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, I HAVE BUILT MY CAREER AS A TRAVEL WRITER AND TOUR ORGANIZER AND TV HOST ON PUBLIC TELEVISION.

AND I'VE GOT A MISSION.

AND MY MISSION IS TO EQUIP AND INSPIRE AMERICANS TO VENTURE BEYOND ORLANDO.

>> BUT LET ME PICK ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE PART OF WHAT YOU DID, WHICH IS YOU DOCUMENTED.

YOU HAVE A NOTEBOOK.

AND THE PEOPLE I WRITE ABOUT FROME DIVINCI ON, THEY ALL TALK ABOUT IT.

THIS IS A CORE OF WHAT WE'RE MISSING TODAY, BUT IT IS A BEAUTIFUL WAY TO SEE HOW YOUR MIND GROWS.

>> YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT WRITING A JOURNAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN -- YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS -- THERE IS A PAGE FROM MY JOURNAL.

AND I -- IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I DID THAT RIGHT FROM WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER.

I HAD A CAREFULLY WRITTEN JOURNAL WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND I CAME HOME.

OTHER KIDS ARE STAYING OUT LATE.

I WAS IN THE YOUTH HOSTILE WRITING IN MY JOURNAL.

THIS WAS WHEN I WAS A PIANO TEACHER.

I HAD NO INTEREST IN BEING A TRAVELER.

I TREASURED THOSE LITTLE MOMENTS, THOSE LITTLE EUREKAS, THOSE REVELATIONS, THOSE LESSONS, THOSE FUNNY MOMENTS AND I WANTED TO NET THEM AS SOMEBODY NETS BUTTERFLIES WHEN IT FLIES BY.

DID I SEE THAT CORRECTLY?

IF I COULD NET THEM, PIN THEM ON MY WALL AND TREASURE THEM AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND FIND MEANING IN THEM, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.

SO I'M A BIG FAN OF JOURNALING.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TAKING OUR KIDS TO EUROPE EVERY YEAR, THEY WOULD HAVE A JOURNAL AND THE MOST TREASURED SOUVENIRS I'VE GOT ARE MY JOURNALS FROM THOSE TRIPS.

WHEN I STARTED WRITING TRAVEL BOOKS, I DECIDED TO GIVE UP MY PIANO STUDENTS, AND I TURNED MY RECITAL HALL INTO A LUXURY HALL AND I DECIDED I WAS GOING TO BE A TRAVEL TEACHER.

I DIDN'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH ANYMORE.

SO MY JOURNAL WRITING WENT BY THE WAY PATH.

BUT I ALSO HAD MY LITTLE BLACK NOTEBOOK.

I HAVE IT IN MY SHIRT POCKET.

IT LOOKS LIKE A PASSPORT.

>> I'M ALMOST CONVINCED WE MAY HAVE CROSSED PATHS BECAUSE I DID MY FIRST HITCHHIKING IN 1973 THROUGH EUROPE AND THEN DID SORT OF THE HIPPY TRAIL ACROSS NORTH AMERICA ALL THE WAY SEARCHING FOR THE SUNSET AND THE PERFECT WAVE.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THERE IS A REASON, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE OUR KIDS DO THIS IF ONE OF MY STUDENTS OR MY DAUGHTER OR SOMETHING SAID, YEAH, I'M GOING TO HITCHHIKE FOR SIX MONTHS AND TAKE BUSSES.

IT JUST FEELS TOO DANGEROUS.

ARE WE OVERPROTECTIVE?

SHOULD OUR KIDS BE ING?

>> MY HIPPY TRAIL WAS THE END OF THE RAINBOW FOR THE HIPPIES.

BUT THE TAKE-AWAY IS YOU COULD HAVE YOUR OWN HIPPY TRAIL.

YOU HAD YOURS ACROSS NORTH AMERICA.

THE DEEP SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY.

YOU COULD DO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS AND HAVE YOUR HIPPY TRAIL.

I THINK THE VALUE IS GETTING AWAY FROM HOME AND LOOKING AT IT FROM A DISTANCE.

ONE OF THE FIVE PILLARS OF ISLAM IS TO MAKE THE PILGRIMAGE TO MECCA.

MOHAMMED WAS NOT ALL ABOUT GOING TO MECCA.

HE WAS ABOUT LEARNING ABOUT THE WORLD BY LEAVING YOUR HOME AND GAINING AN APPRECIATION OF THIS WONDERFUL PLANET THAT WE SHARE.

AS FAR AS CAN PEOPLE DO IT TODAY, I WOULD SAY IT'S NO MORE DANGEROUS TODAY THAN IT WAS BACK THEN.

NOW, I KNOW STATISTICS ARE OPTIONAL THESE DAYS, BUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET OUT THERE AND OVERCOME OUR FEARS, BECAUSE HONESTLY, I REALLY THINK STATISTICALLY WHEN WE GO TRAVELING, IT IS NO MORE DANGEROUS THAT WE STAY HOME AND WHEN WE TRAVEL WE MAKE THE WORLD A SAFER PLACE.

FEAR IS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET OUT VERY MUCH.

WHEN WE ARE AFRAID, PEOPLE WITH AN AGENDA CAN MANIPULATE US, AS HISTORY AS TAUGHT US.

WHEN WE TRAVEL, WE REALIZE THAT THE FLIP SIDE OF FEAR IS UNDERSTANDING.

AND WHEN WE TRAVEL, WE GAIN UNDERSTANDING.

AND THEN THAT -- >> LET ME PUSH BACK THERE.

YOU SAY THE FLIP SIDE OF FEAR IS UNDERSTANDING.

WE GAPE THAT IN THAT WHEN WE TR.

PEOPLE HAVE TRAVELED SO MUCH MORE THAN EVER BEFORE.

YET IN WESTERN EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES HAVE BECOME MORE NATIVISTS, MORE ANTI-FOREIGN.

THERE IS A WELLSPRING OF NATIONALISM GOING ON.

TRAVEL DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE HELPED.

>> YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU TRAVEL.

IF SOMEBODY IS JUST JETTING AROUND GOING TO GOLF COURSES AND GOING TO CASINOS AND RESORTS ON THE BEACH, THEY'RE NOT HAVING A TRANSFORMATIONAL EXPERIENCE.

I HAVE BEEN TEACHING TRAVEL REALLY HARD EVER SINCE I WAS A KID.

IT OCCURS TO ME THERE IS A HIERARCHY OF TRAVEL NEEDS.

AT FIRST I WAS ALL EXCITED ABOUT TEACHING THE BOTTOM RUNG, THE PRACTICAL SKILLS, CATCHING THE TRAIN, FINDING DINNER.

THEN I MOVED UP THAT HIERARCHY AND I WAS IMPASSIONATE ABOUT TEACHING HISTORY AND ART AND CULTURE AND CUISINE, APPRECIATING THE FINE POINTS OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CULTURES.

I REALIZED THE PINNACLE IS WHAT I CALL TRAVEL AS A POLITICAL ACT.

INTENTIONALLY GETTING OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE, INTENTIONALLY ENCOUNTERING CULTURE SHOCK.

I THINK IT'S WRONG WHEN TRAVELERS TRY TO AVOID CULTURE SHOCK.

CULTURE SHOCK, TO ME, IS A CONSTRUCTIVE THING.

IT IS THE GROWING PAINS OF A BROADENING PERSPECTIVE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE CURATED.

BUT I JUST LOVE TO COME HOME WITH A LITTLE LESS FEAR AND A LITTLE MORE APPRECIATION THAT THE WORLD IS FILLED WITH GOOD PEOPLE.

IT IS FILLED WITH JOY.

IT IS FILLED WITH LOVE.

OF COURSE, I'M NOT IVE.

THERE IS BAD ACTORS OUT THERE.

BUT THE MORE WE TRAVEL, I THINK THE SAFER THIS WORLD WILL BECOME.

BUT YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL IN A WAY THAT YOU DO GET OUT OF YOUR CULTURE, YOUR COMFORT ZONE AND YOU CELEBRATE DIFFERENT CULTURES.

TO ME, IT IS JUST A VERY, VERY HEALTHY THING.

AND IT RELATES TO DO WE WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD THAT'S PRIMARILY ALL ABOUT WALLS OR ALL ABOUT BRIDGES.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT GETTING OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE.

YOU SAY EUROPE IS A WELL-WORN PAIR OF SHOES, VERY FORM COMFOR, BUT AS A TRAVELER, I NEED MORE, SOMETHING TO WALLOP MY NORMS.

WHY DO YOU LIKE GUIDE BOOKS FOR EUROPE INSTEAD OF GETTING PEOPLE OUT OTHER PLACES?

>> YEAH.

THE BIG STEP, WALTER, IS LEAVING OUR COUNTRY AND GOING TO SOME OTHER COUNTRY.

FOR ME, EUROPE IS THE WADING POOL FOR WORLD EXPLORATION.

IT IS A SPRING BOARD FOR GETTING MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORLD.

MY FAVORITE COUNTRY IS INDIA.

AND THAT SURPRISES PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK OF ME AS TO CRAZY ABOUT EUROPE.

BUT FROM A TEACHING POINT OF VIEW, I HAVE THE BIGGEST MARKET WHEN I GO TEACHING PEOPLE TO, INSTEAD OF GOING TO ORLANDO AGAIN, I KEEP USING THAT METAPHOR, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT, GO TO PORTUGAL, CHECK THAT OUT.

GO TO IRELAND.

I LOVE IRELAND BECAUSE I GET THE SENSATION I'M UNDERSTANDING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE.

AND FROM THERE, YOU CAN GO FURTHER.

ALSO I'M A BUSINESSMAN, AND I WANT TO WORK HARD AND HELP PEOPLE GO TO A PLACE WHERE THERE IS A BIG MARKET.

AND THERE IS A HUGE MARKET FOR GOING TO PARIS.

>> NOW, WHERE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD GO TODAY BESIDES -- WE TALKED ABOUT EUROPE.

COULD YOU GO TO IRAN?

SHOULD YOU GO TO CUBA?

SHOULD YOU GO TO THE PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES?

YOU HAVE BEEN TO THOSE PLACES.

YOU WRITE ABOUT THEM.

>> YEAH.

WELL, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU GET THE MOST VALUE OUT OF YOUR TRAVEL.

AND I WROTE A BOOK CALLED "TRAVEL AS A POLITICAL ACT."

HALF OF THE PAGES IN THAT BOOK ARE EXPERIENCES FROM THE PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN THE MOST TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR ME, THE PLACES THAT YOU TAKE HOME A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND SO MANY LESSONS.

AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PLACES MY GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD ME I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GO OR DISCOURAGED ME FROM GOING OR NOT EVEN ALLOW ME TO GO.

IN I THINK THE MOST IMPACTFUL T CUBA, PALESTINE, IRAN.

A LOT OF AMERICANS DON'T REALIZE THAT CUBA AND IRAN ARE REAL DESTINATIONS.

NOT WHEN THERE IS A WAR GOING ON AND PROBABLY NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT SOME OF THE BEST-SELLING GUIDE BOOKS ARE TO CUBA AND IRAN.

THE NUMBER ONE CARIBBEAN DESTINATION FROM GERMANY AND FROM CANADA IS CUBA.

BUT AMERICANS GO, YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO TO CUBA?

I HAVE HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES THERE, AND I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE CAN GET TO KNOW THE ENEMY.

WHEN WE GET TO KNOW THE ENEMY, IT MAKES IT TOUGHER FOR THEIR PROPAGANDA TO DEHUMANIZE US AND WHEN WE GET HOME, IT MAKES IT HARDER OR OUR PROPAGANDA TO DEHUMANIZE THEM.

THESE DAYS AVOID THE CROWDS BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO GO TO THOSE PLACES THAT ARE TRENDING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WE ALL HAVE THOSE BUCKET LISTS WHERE WE HAVE TO SEE THE FAMOUS PLACE AND GET A PICTURE IN FRONT OF IT.

WE HAVE TO BREAK OUT OF THAT.

>> YOUR BOOK ON THE HIPPY TRAIL TALKS ABOUT A LOT OF ADVENTURES.

ONE OF THEM INVOLVED A BUS RIDE.

I THINK FROM TURKEY TO IRAN.

TELL US THAT ONE.

>> THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO KICK OFF THIS ADVENTURE.

I WILL NEVER FORGET WHEN MY FRIEND AND AHEADED EAST.

WALTER, IT OCCURRED TO ME I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE SOUL BETWEEN HERE AND SEATTLE WHERE I LIVE.

IT STARTED OFF WE HAD TICKETS.

AND IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, GREAT.

WE HAVE ROW 7 SEATS A AND B.

AND AT THE BUS LOT WHEN THE BUS CAME IN, THE DOOR OPENED AND EVERYBODY GOT ON THE BUS.

WE THOUGHT, WHAT'S GOING ON?

WE HAVE TICKETS.

IT OCCURRED TO US THAT THOSE NUMBERS DIDN'T MATTER AT ALL.

WE JUST HAD TWO PLACES ON THE BUS, AND WE HAD THE LAST TWO SEATS FOR THIS 48-HOUR SEAT, ADDED OVER A STAIRWELL IN THE BACK OF THE BUS AND THE ONLY RUNS THAT DIDN'T RECLINE OVER SOMETHING THAT WAS HOT AND NOISY AND BUMPY.

I THOUGHT, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG TRIP.

EVERY TIME I STOOD UP TO STRETCH, THE BUS DRIVER WOULD SEE ME IN THE MIRROR AND SAY, MISTER, SIT DOWN.

BEFORE THE GUY COULD GET TO THE BED, THE NEW DRIVER HAD RUN OFF THE ROAD AND WE WERE STUCK FOR A DAY TRYING TO GET OUR BUS OFF THE HER RID MERIDIAN.

THANK GOODNESS NOBODY WAS HURT THERE.

THE NEXT DAY THE BUS DRIVER REALIZED, WE WON'T LET THE SECOND MATE DRIVE THERE.

I REMEMBER ONE TIME HE SAID, OKAY, THIS BUS IS SMELLY.

EVERYBODY HAS TO GO INTO THE RIVER AND TAKE A BATH.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING UNTIL EVERYBODY TAKES A BATH.

AT NIGHT WE WOULD STAY IN THESE HORRIBLE HOTELS.

THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLE WOULD HANG OUT HERE.

THE FRENCH-SPEAKING PEOPLE WOULD HANG OUT HERE.

IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIP.

AND WE KEPT GOING FARTHER AND FARTHER AWAY FROM THOSE TRAVELERS' PARADISE LIKE THE GREEK ISLES.

WE KEPT PUSHING FORWARD AND WE CROSSED THE PASS AND WE DESCENDED INTO INDIA AND CROSSING INTO INDIA WAS THE BIGGEST HIGH FIVE MOMENT I HAVE EVER HAD IN MY TRAVEL CAREER.

>> HOW DID YOU JUST WENT THROUGH A BOUT OF PROSTATE CANCER, I THINK IT WAS.

AND THAT SEEMED TO EFFECT YOU, AS EVEN IN THE INTRODUCTION YOU MENTION SOME OF THESE THINGS.

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU?

>> WELL, I HAD PROSTATE CANCER.

I WAS DIAGNOSED LAST SUMMER.

OCTOBER I GOT MY SURGERY, TOOK OUT MY PROSTATE.

AND THANKFULLY, MY DOCTOR -- WE JUST TESTED MY BLOOD AND MY DOCTOR SAID I COULD CONSIDER MYSELF CANCER FREE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MEN TO REALIZE, JUST LIKE WOMEN HAVE TO BE TUNED TO THEIR BODY WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE BREAST CANCER, PROSTATE CANCER FOR MEN IS OUR VERSION OF BREAST CANCER.

I TACKLED THIS LIKE A TRAVELER.

FOR ME IT WAS A TRIP I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO TAKE.

I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, I'M 69 YEARS OLD NOW.

I NEVER SPENT A NIGHT IN THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THIS AND MY TIME WILL COME WHEN I HAVE SOME HEALTH CHALLENGE.

AND I WANTED TO BE CURIOUS, AND I WANTED TO BE POSITIVE.

I WANTED TO BE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PATIENT.

I WANTED TO BE THANKFUL AND TUNED IN.

AND IT'S BEEN A GOOD EXPERIENCE.

AND RIGHT NOW I'M JUST VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR THE MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE, FOR THE AMAZING SURGEON I HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH AND THE FACT WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE WE CAN GET PROSTATE CANCER AND REASONABLY EXPECT TO GET OVER IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S EASY TO SEE THE PROBLEMS IN OUR SOCIETY THESE DAYS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM.

BUT THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD PLACE TO LIVE, IF YOU HAVE GOT A CHALLENGE LIKE THAT.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING A TOURIST AND BEING A TRAVELER.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO GET YOU TO THAT NEXT LEVEL YOU HAVE KIND OF MENTIONED.

TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PILGRIM.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BROADEN THAT PERSPECTIVE AND HAVE THAT TRANSFORMATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND HAVE SOME EMPATHY FOR HUMANITY.

I THINK WE CAN TRAVEL, SEEING THAT THE ROAD IS A PLAYGROUND.

THAT'S A TOURIST.

THE ROAD IS SCHOOL.

THAT WOULD BE A TRAVELER.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, I'M NOT A TOURIST.

I'M A TRAVELER.

OKAY.

YOU ARE GOING OVER THERE TO LEARN AND BROADEN YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

OR THE ROAD CAN BE CHURCH OR MOSQUE OR A SYNAGOGUE.

THAT MEANS YOU ARE LEAVING HOME TO LEARN ABOUT YOURSELF AND EXPLORE DIMENSIONS OF LIFE YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO SO WELL EXPLORE AT HOME.

THAT'S TRAVEL AS A PILGRIM.

AND PILGRIMAGE TRAVEL IS VERY TRENDY THESE DAYS.

MORE PEOPLE THAN EVER SEEM TO BE TAKING THE TRIP.

I HAVE A PILGRIMAGE EXPERIENCE WHEN I'M TRAVELING.

IT COULD BE THOUGHTFUL OR TO BE MORE SPIRITUAL.

BUT I FIND GOD ON THE ROAD QUITE VIVIDLY, AND I THINK IT IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A MONK OR A HEE HEDONIST.

THE DEFAULT IS GOING AS A SIMPLE TOURIST.

AND THE GOAL IS TO MIX IT UP AND BE A TOURIST, A TRAVELER AND A PILGRIM.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I TEACH A LOT WHEN I -- WHEN I TAKE MY SHOW ON THE ROAD.

>> RICK STEVES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU, WALTER.

IT'S BEEN A DELIGHT, AND I WILL WISH YOU A BON VOYAGE.

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