May 19th, 2023

>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE MAY 19TH,EDITION OF COLORADO INSIDE OUT.

BRINGING TOGETHER JOURNALIST TO DISCUSS PAST EVENTS.

I'M PATTY CALHOUN FOUNDER AND EDITOR OF WESTWORD.

BACK HERE OUR FORM HOST DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.

ERIC SONDERMANN IS BACK.

WE ARE WELCOMING BACK SAGE NAUMANN AND CHRIS ROURKE.

COLORADO SPRINGS WAS NAMED THE NINTH BEST PLACE.

THE POLITICAL UPSET OF THE YEAR.

WHAT IS YOUR TAKEAWAY ON THIS UNBELIEVABLE UPSET.

>> IT IS WONDERFUL TO BE HERE.

I WILL TRY TO BRING THE REQUESTIONIST.

EVERYONE DESCRIBED IT AS HISTORIC.

TO ME, IT IS NOT HOW PEOPLE HAVE PLACED IT OF PROGRESSIVE VERSUS CONSERVATIVE.

THIS IS MUCH IN MY YEARS NEW VERSUS FRESH.

WHEN IT COMES TO EL PASO COUNTY, THIS WAS OR REALLY IS THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY.

SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE DAVE WILLIAMS.

IT IS NOT TO BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED THAT A FRESH FACE THAT CAME OUT WITH A TRUE AMERICAN STORY, AN IMMIGRANT THAT MADE GOOD IS NOW GOING TO LEAD THE COLORADO'S SECOND LARGEST CITY.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IS DONE THERE.

IT IS NOT JUST AS HE TALKED ABOUT TRIBES ANYMORE.

IT IS ABOUT THE NEW AND FRESH FACE.

>> ERIC YOU ARE A FACE FROM COLORADO SPRINGS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS RESULT?

>> YES, THAT IS WHERE I GREW UP.

I AGREE WITH A LOT OF DOMINIC'S OBSERVATIONS.

IT IS AN UPSET THE YOU DIAL IT BACK SIX MONTHS AGO OR 12 MONTHS AGO.

BUT IN MOST PEOPLE ONCE IT BECAME A RUNOFF BETWEEN HIM AND WAYNE WILLIAMS EXPECTED HIM TO WIN.

REPUBLICANS AND BUSINESS DEVELOPER CROWD DOWN THERE LEFT SO MUCH BLOOD ON THE GROUND THERE WAS NO WAY TO PUT HUMPTY DUMPY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.

WHATEVER METAPHOR YOU USE IF CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS LOSE COLORADO SPRINGS THEN THE GAME IS OVER.

THE MARGIN, YES, REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN WINNING BUT THOSE DAYS OF 20-25 MARGINS ARE FAR LONG.

>> IS THIS EL PASO'S COUNTY ALAMO?

>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE A LOT MORE RACES IN YEARS.

BUT, I THINK ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE LEFT SAYING EXACTLY THAT.

THE DAM HAS BROKEN, EL PASO HAS FALLEN.

THIS IS SOMEONE DIFFERENT.

SOMEONE WHO HAS STRONG TIES TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THEY ARE NOT A COMPLETE OUTSIDER.

HE IS SOMEBODY WHO CAME IN AND RAN IN ON A PLATFORM OF HIRING MORE COPS.

YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER TITLE YOU WANT AND TAG HIM WHATEVER TERM.

THAT IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE PROGRESSIVES WE SEE IN DENVER.

IT IS NOT TO SAY THIS IS A ONE OFF.

I THINK IT IS BECAUSE HE IS OFFERING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IS THAT GOING TO BE A TREND, I THINK TIME WILL TELL.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS RACE.

IT HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS HOW THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR RACE UNDER THE NEW GOP ADMINISTRATION.

THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DRAMA IN EL PASO COUNTY.

I KNOW DEMOCRATS ARE LICKING THEIR LIPS AND LOOKING AT THE COUNTY NEXT.

DAVE WILLIAMS HAS TO BRING THE PARTY TOGETHER.

HE IS NOT DOING THE PARTY ANY FAVORS.

EVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION OCCURRED SAYING WHY IS HE -- I HOPE HE IS ENJOYING THE BENEFITS OF DOING A COMMERCIAL WITH SECRETARY OF STATE JENNA GRISWOLD.

>> ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO MENTION HERE IS THE KIND OF MODEL WAYNE WILLIAMS SET.

I WILL LOVE THERE WILL BE OTHER POLITICIANS THAT WILL ACT LIKE HIM.

WENT OVER AND PHYSICALLY CONGRATULATED.

THAT WAS CLASS.

IT IS SAD WE NEED TO POINT THAT OUT AS AN OUTLIAR.

IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO SEE IT IS SEEN BY OTHER LEADERS.

>> I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE TO OVERANALYZE THROUGH A PARTISAN LENS.

THERE WAS A PARTISAN ELEMENT TO IT.

RIGHT AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION STATEWIDE TWO PROMPT REPUBLICANS BOTH CAME UP TO ME YOU NEED TO MEET THIS GUY HE WILL BE THE NEXT MAYOR OF COLORADO SPRINGS.

THIS WAS NOT A PURE DEMOCRATS VERSUS REPUBLICAN THING.

YOU CAN PUT THAT LENS ON BUT YOU CAN'T EXCLUSIVELY PUT THAT LENS ON IT.

>> DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE VOTER IS TIRED?

DON'T YOU THINK PART OF THE FRESH FACE THEY ARE TIRED THE SAME OLD TIRED ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER WITH THE GOP.

THEY WANT SOMETHING NEW.

YEMI GAVE IT TO THEM.

HE WAS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE AT THE PERFECT TIME WITH THE PERFECT CAMPAIGN.

>> AGREED.

>> ONE THING TO ADD AURORA WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT LATER.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WE NEED PARTISAN LABELS ON THE BALLOT.

THIS IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY AREN'T ON THE BALLOT.

YEMI WAS A UNIQUE CANDIDATE.

LET'S SIT DOWN WITHOUT THE AUTOMATIC TRIGGER OF A POLITICAL PARTY ON THE BALLOT.

>> HERE WE ARE IN DENVER NOW THE 99th BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY.

WE HAVE ALMOST THREE MORE WEEKS LEFT IN OUR MAYORAL RUNOFF.

THIS WEEK WE HAD A BIG MOVE WHEN LISA CALDERON ENDORSED MIKE JOHNSTON.

HOW DO YOU THINK THIS WILL AFFECT THE CAMPAIGN HERE?

>> THE FIRST THING IS THAT IT IS THE MOST INTERESTING RATE IN THE STATE.

COLORADO SPRINGS HAS CLIPS THIS.

POSING THE QUESTION FOR LISA'S DAY JOB RUNNING A GROUP CALLED MERGE COLORADO.

LAST I LOOKED KELLY BROUGH WAS A DEMOCRATIC WOMAN.

LISA SHOULDN'T BE BOUND BY POLITICS.

YET THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME KIND OF CONFLICT BETWEEN THE MISSION OF HER ORGANIZATION AND THE ROUTE SHE CHOSE.

THERE IS NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JOHNSTON AND BROUGH.

HE HAS A MONETARY ADVANTAGE.

THE MORE PROGRESSIVE OF TWO OF NO SO PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATES.

>> SAGE WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING NOW?

>> THE ENDORSEMENT GAME IS A TOUGH ONE.

THIS LATE IN THE GAME IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT MUCH.

I THINK IT IS A TWO, THREE-POINT RACE.

HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.

THIS RACE -- THE TWO CANDIDATES ACCEPT FOR THE ONE REPUBLICAN THE TWO MORE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT.

IF YOU LOOK WHERE DENVER POLITICS HAVE GONE, I THINK THAT VOTERS ARE SAYING WE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THE QUESTION IS ARE THESE ENDORSEMENTS HELPING OR HURTING?

AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES I DON'T THINK FOLLOW IN THAT PROGRESSIVE LABEL.

WILL THE ENDORSEMENTS MATTER?

UNLESS IT IS VERY CLOSE I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT CHANGES THE GAME.

>> WE HAVE THE ADS TOO.

SOMETIMES THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB IS A WOMAN.

IS THAT GOING TO HELP OR HURT THEM?

>> I LIKE THE AD VERY MUCH.

WELL DONE.

I THINK SHE PLAYS ON THAT THEME WITHOUT OVERDOING IT.

I FOUND IT INTERESTING BOTH CANDIDATES WOULD SUBMIT TO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.

IT WAS A 79 QUESTION TEST FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

I LOOKED AT THE SCORE CARD AFTERWARDS.

THAT'S WHERE THE ENDORSEMENT WENT BASED ON A SCORE CARD.

IT DOESN'T HURT THE FACT THAT MIKE JOHNSTON HAS MORE MONEY IN THE BANK.

HE MAY BE LEADING IN SOME POLLS.

IT MAKES IT EASY ENDORSEMENT FOR LISA CALDERON.

DOES DENVER WANT A LEADER THAT SUBMITS TO A QUESTIONNAIRE.

>> BOTH OF THEM DID, WE WILL GET THE LEADER WHO DID THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

>> AS I LOOK AT THIS, I HAD THE GREAT HONOR OF MODERATING DEBRATS JUST LAST WEEK WITH CBS NEWS.

AS A DEBATE MONITOR THERE WERE TWO FRIENDS DEBATING.

A GUY WHO WANTS TO SEE MORE IN POLITICS THAT IS WONDERFUL.

A LITTLE SPICE.

I DON'T NEED LIKE GREEN CHILI SPICE.

IT JUST FEELS -- IT FEELS LIKE -- THERE IS SO MUCH IN COMMON IT IS HARD TO PICK SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

HERE IS THE REASONS I DON'T LIKE KELLY.

THE OTHER CHOICE IS MIKE JOHNSTON SO VOTE FOR HIM.

SO I WONDER IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO VOTE BECAUSE OF THE ENDORSEMENT THEY SAW.

AS MANY PEOPLE SAID LISA CALDERON ENDORSE MIKE JOHNSTON I SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM OR THE OPPOSITE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE WILL SEE.

>> ARE MORE VOTERS WILL COME OUT THIS TIME?

WE ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER MAYORAL RACE IN AURORA COLORADO'S THIRD LARGEST CITY.

MIKE IS RUNNING AGAIN.

I KNOW YOU ARE FEELING THEM SAGE.

>> I THINK MIKE HAS A GOOD SHOT OF WINNING THIS RACE AGAIN.

THE FIGHT THAT IS BREWING WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD HAVE A STRONG MAYOR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT.

IT RISKS DIVIDING THAT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

REGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE MIKE COFFMAN THAT WILL AFFECT AS WELL.

SHOULD IT BE LEFT WITH THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL.

I'M INTERESTING HOW THAT DEVELOPS.

>> IN DENVER THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE POWER.

WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING IN AURORA?

>> ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STRONG MAYOR GOVERNANCE.

WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN THEY COME IN.

YOU HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT HANDLES A LOT OF DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS.

WHEN YOU PUT THAT MUCH POWER INTO SOMEONE'S HANDS WHO HAS VARYING DEGREES OF EXPERTISE AS FAR AS MANAGING A CITY, MAKING DECISIONS THAT IS BEST FOR THE MUNICIPALITY.

THAT IS SOMETHING AURORA WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THEY WANT I SEE PROBLEMS WITH IT.

I REALIZE A LOT OF CITIES FUNCTION THAT WAY.

MAYBE IN AURORA IT WILL FLY.

>> OR FROM HIGHLANDS RANCH.

>> IT IS GREAT INTEREST.

I LOVE HOW INTERESTING AURORA IS.

IT IS BY FAR THE MOST DIVERSITY IN COLORADO.

PROBABLY WITHIN SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES.

AGE, INCOME, ETHNICITY, RACE.

WHAT MAKES THIS ELECTION SO INTERESTING IN NOVEMBER.

IT IS A BIG CHANGE.

WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN COLORADO.

AURORA WAS ALWAYS DENVER, DENVER, DENVER.

NOW AURORA IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

IT WILL BE AN EXCITING CAMPAIGN TO WATCH MIKE COFFMAN TO RUN.

HE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST CAMPAIGNERS IN COLORADO POLITICS.

JUST BECAUSE HOW HARD THEY WOULD RUN IT.

HE IS NOT TO BE UNDERESTIMATED.

BUT IF I AM HIM I LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN EL PASO COUNTY.

WHAT NOT TO DO FILE.

HE SHOULD BE VERY CLOSE -- IT SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME MAKES IN AURORA.

>> THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN AURORA.

WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING?

>> I'M WATCHING THE MAGNITUDE OUT THERE.

I FIND ONE OF THE MOST FASCINATING TO GO.

IT IS COLORADO THESE DAYS.

IT SIGNIFIES IT.

IT IS NOT JUST THE MAYORAL RACE.

YOU HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF COMING IN.

YOU HAVE A NEW SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT COMING IN.

YOU HAVE A BATTLE FOR A MAJORITY ON CITY COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE A DEBATE WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A STRONG MAYOR.

COLORADO SPRINGS DID THIS 15 PLUS YEARS.

I EXPECT AURORA WILL DO IT IN SOME TIME.

WE WILL SEE IF THAT POINT IS RIGHT NOW.

FOR THE DEMOCRATS THEIR BIG CHALLENGE -- IT IS NOT DEMOCRATS BECAUSE IT IS NOT PURELY PARTISAN.

THEY CAN'T WONDER OFF TOO FAR LEFT.

THAT HAS BEEN THE INCLINATION FOR THE LEFT TO NOMINATE CANDIDATES FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL WHO ARE JUST UNELECTABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE OFF THE SPECTRUM.

>> I THINK THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COLORADO SPRINGS AND AURORA RIGHT NOW.

HE IS RIGHT NOW THE FRONT LINER TO TAKE ON MIKE COFFMAN.

YOU HAVE YEMI QUOTING REAGAN.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

IT WILL BE A TIGHT RACE.

THEY ARE ALWAYS ARE IN OUR CITIES.

I DO THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH BECAUSE COLORADO IS CHANGING.

THE CITIES ARE CHANGING.

WE WILL SEE IF NEW TRENDS START.

>> WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT AURORA IN THE WEEKS TO COME.

>> TEN DAYS AFTER THE LEGISLATURE GOVERNOR JARED POLIS HAS STARTED VETOING BILLS.

HE IS USING THAT VETO PIN ON A CONTROVERSIAL BILL.

RANCHERS ARE HOWLING.

>> FROM THE INCEPTION OF THIS MEASURE TO REINTRODUCE WOLVES.

THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER THE GUN FIGURING OUT HOW THEY CAN ADAPT.

WE HAD A BIPARTISAN BILL COME FORWARD THAT WAS GOING TO BE CON CONTINGENT.

THAT WOULD CLASSIFY WOLVES AS AN EXPERIMENTAL POPULATION.

A NONESSENTIAL POP -- POPLATION.

IF YOU GO TO GUNNISON IN THE DEAD OF WINTER THE FENCES ARE BURIED BY SNOW.

RANCHERS WANT THIS AS AN INSURANCE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THE PROPER MEASURES TO PROTECT THEIR CATTLE, THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

HE SAYS HE DOESN'T WANT TO DELAY WOLF INTRODUCTION.

THERE IS A DEBATE WHETHER THE DEBATE IS ON THE GROUND.

I THINK IT IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE FOR THE RANCHERS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE PARDON THE BUN THE BEEF.

I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT TO AMEND THAT.

I RESPECT GOVERNOR HE VETOED IT BECAUSE IT DID GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.

IT IS NOT AN EASY LAW.

IF IT DIDN'T MAKE IT WORK, IT MAKES SENSE HE WOULD HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THAT.

I BELIEVE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF PLEASURE THAT GOVERNOR POLIS MIGHT TAKE IN VETOING SOMETHING.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE GOVERNOR POLIS MAKES HIS OWN DECISION OUR FIRST GENTLEMAN IS A STRONG ADVOCATE.

A FEW OPINIONS ABOUT WOLF INTRODUCTION.

>> I'D LIKE TO ARGUE THAT POINT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS HIS MAIN PURPOSE.

THIS MEASURE PASSED ON A VERY SMALL MARGIN.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO VOTERS WHO HAVE KIND OF SECOND GUESS THEIR VOTE.

THEY DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT THIS IMPACT WOULD BE.

AS FOR THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE I WOULD QUESTION THAT.

>> IT STILL COMES DOWN TO A MAJORITY.

IT CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING THERE IS SOMETHING TO WORK OUT.

WAS THIS THE RIGHT COMPROMISE.

THEY HAVE TO WORK HARDER.

>> LET'S HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE, ERIC.

>> A NARROW MARGIN IT IS STILL THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

WAS THIS PROMOTE IMPLEMENTATION LEGISLATION.

I WOULD ARGUE IT WAS.

I GIVE ARGUE THE DEMOCRAT FROM THE WESTERN SLOPE MEGAN ANOTHER DEMOCRAT IN THE WESTERN SLOPE.

I'VE BEEN OUTSPOKEN ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE THE ELECTION.

YOU KNOW THIS PATTY.

THERE IS NO ISSUES IN THE VOLUME TO THIS MANAGEMENT OF THIS STATION OR WHEN I PUT IT IN PRINT TO MY EDITOR.

THESE PEOPLE ARE ANIMATED.

THEY DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.

SO MY ADVICE TO THEM MIGHT BE TAKE A BREATH OR DECAF ON THE COFFEE.

THESE WOLVES ARE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED.

I THINK JARRED POLIS MISS OPPORTUNITIES AFTER OPPORTUNITY.

>> THERE IS A WAR ON RURAL COLORADO.

A VETO FROM COLORADO IN BOULDER I HEARD YOUR CONCERNS BUT NO THANK YOU.

THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE TO PASS THAT MEASURE.

GUESS WHAT?

THE LEGISLATURES ARE THERE BY THE PEOPLE'S VOTE.

THEY VOTED TO PASS THIS ALMOST VETO PROOF IN BOTH CHAMBERS.

I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE HAVE ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST.

I'M ALL FOR ANIMALS.

I THINK IT IS TERRIBLE.

I THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE.

I THINK IT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD MOVE POLITICALLY OR OTHERWISE.

>> WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE WOLVES.

LET'S GO TO OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOWS.

WHAT IS YOUR LOW OF THE WEEK?

>> MY LOW OF THE WEEK I SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH FLORIDA.

BUT IT STARTED WITH SPRINGFIELD, COLORADO MAN.

THERE IS SO MANY THINGS YOU CAN BLAME ON THE DOG.

DRUNK DRIVING IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

YOU CANNOT SAY THE DOG WAS DRIVING.

KUDOS FOR CREATIVE.

LOW ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> THERE WERE TWO SOBER PEOPLE ON THE BACKSEAT.

ERIC WHAT IS YOUR LOW?

>> MY DOG TOLD ME CLEARLY SHE IS NOT TAKING THE FALL FOR ME ON THIS ONE.

DENVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS JUST GAVE PAY RAISE AND REVISED THE CONTRACT OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.

IF I SEE QUESTIONABLE PERFORMANCE BEFORE I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THAT SITUATION.

>> SAGE?

>> I THINK MY LOW A FEW INCHES SLOW THE POTHOLES OF THIS STATE.

FIXING OUR ROADS HAS NOT BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PRIORITY FOR THE LEGISLATURE.

AFTER THE RAINS WE HAVE HAD, I HAVE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THOUGHT MY WHEEL WAS COMING OFF.

I CAN'T IMAGINE PEOPLE ARE PAYING.

IT IS DISAPPOINTING.

>> KRIS?

>> I HATE TO BEAT THIS SUBJECT TO DEATH.

THE WOLF BILL.

ERIC IS RIGHT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

IT WAS A PASSED OPPORTUNITY.

I JUST THINK IT WAS A REAL LOW.

>> WE HAVE HAD HIGH POINTS TOO.

>> I SAW MY HIGH POINT TODAY.

RELEASING WATER THAT WILL MAKE WATER THROUGH THE GUNNISON ON TO THE COLORADO RIVER AND ON TO THE LAKE.

THERE IS ACTUALLY WATER GOING THAT WAY, I THINK IN FIRST YEARS.

>> ERIC?

>> IT IS GOOD TO HAVE DOMINIC BACK IN THE HOUSE.

THAT IS A HIGH POINT.

SPEAKING OF COLORADO INSIDE OUT THEN AND COLORADO INSIDE OUT NOW.

ONE OF OUR SUPER FANS OUR BIGGEST PROMPTER TIM JACKSON FOR YEARS AND YEARS HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT FROM THE AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION.

WELL DONE TIM.

>> WHAT IS YOURS?

>> COURTESY AND STABILITY IN POLITICS.

WE SAW THAT IN WAYNE WILLIAMS NOT JUST A HANDSHAKE BUT A HUG.

I THINK WE SAW IN D.C. WITH THE UNVEILING OF THE PORTRAIT.

WE CAN SEE IN A TIME THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE.

THE BATTLE GOES BEYOND THE BILLS THAT REACHED THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND THEY BECOME HATRED.

WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO OUR BEST.

>> STABILITY AROUND THIS TABLE TOO.

CHRIS?

>> I DISCOVERED THIS WEEK THERE ARE MICROBES THAT EAT PLASTIC.

THERE ARE SOME THAT EAT PLASTIC AT LOW TEMPERATURES WHICH IS MORE FEASIBLE TO USE THESE TO TRY TO MITIGATE FOR PLASTIC PUT IN THE LANDFILLS.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

THERE IS HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

I DON'T THINK THAT WILL REVERSE BAG BANS BUT I'M HOPEFUL.

>> THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TONIGHT.

NEXT WEEK, I'LL BE BACK IN MY NORMAL CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING TONIGHT ON YOUR TV OR DEVICE.

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