
November 19th 2021 Edition
Season 29 Episode 47 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Colorado politics: Mask mandates, Aurora park shooting, City of Aurora McClain Settlement
The latest headlines in Colorado Politics. Panelists Patty Calhoun, David Kopel, Eric Sondermann and Scott Martinez discuss Colorado news including mask mandates, the Nome park shooting in Aurora and the City of Aurora vs. the McClain family settlement.
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November 19th 2021 Edition
Season 29 Episode 47 | 27m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
The latest headlines in Colorado Politics. Panelists Patty Calhoun, David Kopel, Eric Sondermann and Scott Martinez discuss Colorado news including mask mandates, the Nome park shooting in Aurora and the City of Aurora vs. the McClain family settlement.
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WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 19TH, 2021, EDITION OF COLORADO INSIDE OUT.
I'M YOUR HOST DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE SHOW.
AFTER WITNESSING THE TRAJECTORY OF RISING CORONAVIRUS CASES, OFFICIALS FROM A VARIETY OF METRO AREA PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUESTING GOVERNOR POLIS ISSUE A STATEWIDE MASK MANDATE.
IN ADDITION TO INDOOR MASK REQUIREMENTS FOR ANYONE OVER THE AGE OF TWO YEARS.
THE OFFICIALS ARE ADVISING THE ENFORCEMENT OF VACCINATION REQUIREMENTS BEFORE ENTERING PUBLIC SPACES.
PATTY CALHOUN FROM WESTWORD.
IF NOT MASK MANDATES THAT WE HAVE SEEN POLIS SHY AWAY FROM, DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE ANYTHING ELSE.
WE ARE TAPING THIS AT 12:15 ON FRIDAY.
DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE FOR HIM TO DO IF NOT A MASK MANDATES.
>> HE TOLD YOU WILL KILL YOUR GRANDPARENTS IF YOU SEE THEM IN THANKSGIVING.
HE TOLD YOU TO LIE AND GET YOUR VACCINATIONS ANYWAY.
HE HAS GONE AS FAR AS HE POSSIBLY GO WITHOUT SAYING GET A MASK MANDATE.
HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR VACCINATIONS THE BEST WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
WE NOW HAVE IN SIX COUNTIES STARTING DECEMBER 1ST IF YOU ARE GOING TO AN INDOOR EVENT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MASK ON.
YOU HAVE TO BE VACCINATED.
IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE A NEGATIVE TEST.
WE WILL SEE THAT.
YOU WILL SEE MORE COUNTIES ADOPTING IT.
YOU WILL SEE IT GO DOWN 250.
NOW, OF COURSE, HE IS HAVING A PRESS CONFERENCE AT 1:00 WHICH IS NOW A HABIT WHICH IRRITATES US.
I KNOW IT IS NOT BOYS SCOUTS, GIRLS SCOUTS.
THESE ARE HEALTH EXPERTS.
THERE WILL BE DIRE WARNINGS WHEN YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE HOSPITALS IN COLORADO.
>> DAVID KOPEL, WE TALKED ABOUT LAW CONTROL VERSUS STATE CONTROL.
DO YOU THINK SOME COUNTIES SEEING A STATEWIDE MANDATE WON'T HAPPEN THEY WILL DO IT THEMSELVES?
>> THAT SEEMS TO FIT WITH IS SENSIBILITIES OF THE PEOPLE OF BOULDER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, THEIR PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS CONSIDERING THE SAME KIND OF THING.
I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT APPROACH RATHER THAN CENTRALIZED TOP DOWN.
THEY ARE BACK ON THIS PROGRAM BACK IN MARCH 2020.
I STRONGLY ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS.
THAT IS THE TIME DR. FAUCI WAS TELLING PEOPLE THE MASKS WERE USELESS.
AND THE CHINESE WERE TELLING PEOPLE SHOULD NOT WEAR MASKS.
THE EVIDENCE WE NOW HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF LATER THEY CAN BE OF MARGINAL BENEFIT IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY RATES.
IF YOU WEAR A MASK, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO WEAR ONE THAT WORKS.
YOU COULDN'T GET THESE IN MARCH 2020.
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST BOUGHT THEM ALL UP.
THE KEY THING IS THIS MIDDLE THING HERE ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE THE MASK FIT TIGHTLY OVER YOUR NOSE.
IF YOUR MASK DOESN'T HAVE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF AIR COMING IN BOTH SIDES OF YOUR NOSE.
YOU DRASTICALLY LOST MOST OF THE BENEFIT OF YOUR MASK.
TRISH WAS ON THIS SHOW LAST WEEK.
SHE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IN HER VIEW ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE MANDATE WAS NOT THE REDUCING DISEASE.
SHE POINTED PARTICULARLY TO THE SOCIAL MESSAGE THAT IT SIGNALS THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
I CREDIT HER HONESTY.
IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND NATURAL RIGHTS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DRESS A CERTAIN WAY TO BE FORCE TO TRANSMIT A GOVERNMENT MESSAGE.
>> THERE IS A LOT THERE TO UNPACK.
IN FAIRNESS TRISH ISN'T FAIR TO RESPOND.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO TALKED THERE IS A COMMON DECENCY IF I'M GOING TO SNEEZE INTO MY ARM AND NOT SNEEZE OUT LOUD, THERE IS STILL SOMETHING VALUABLE THERE NOT NECESSARY MANDATING A FASHION CHOICE.
>> SNEEZING INTO YOUR ARM IS A GOOD THING TO DO.
THAT REDUCES HOW MANY VIRUSS OR BACTERIA YOU EXPEL.
I'M SURE SHE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE SIEFS ISKE BENEFIT.
MY POINT OF VIEW IT IS WRONG FOR GOVERNMENT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DRESS IN A PARTICULAR WAY TO EXPRESS A MESSAGE.
>> LET'S KEEP IT GOING.
ERIC SONDERMANN.
ERIC, GOVERNOR POLIS IS IN A STICKY SITUATION HERE.
PEOPLE APPRECIATE THE CLARITY WHAT IS GOING ON.
NOW IT IS MUCH MORE HANDS OFF.
IS HE GOING TO BE FORCE TO TAKE MORE OF A STANCE?
>> WELL, I THINK HE IS A LITTLE BIT DAMN IF HE DOES AND DAMN IF HE DOESN'T.
HE IS LESS ASSERTTIVE.
HE HAS NOT YET DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY THAT WOULD GIVE HIM THOSE POWERS THAT HE WIELDED BEFORE.
ONE CAN'T HELP BUT BELIEVE IF THIS WAS NOVEMBER OF 2020 INSTEAD OF NOVEMBER 2021.
24 MONTHS AWAY FROM SOME OTHER POLICIES MIGHT BE IN PLACE.
THERE IS A LOGIC TO HIS POINT THAT COMPLIANCE IS THE ISSUE.
PEOPLE WILL COMPLY WITH THE ORDER ARE THE ONES WHO ARE VACCINATED WHO COMPLIANCE IS LEAST IMPORTANT.
IT IS A PROBLEM IN THOSE RESISTING THE VACCINE.
THE HOSPITAL RATES ARE VERY, VERY SCARY.
TO BE CLEAR NOT EVERY HOSPITAL BED IS OCCUPIED BY COVID PATIENT.
SOMEONE WHO IS IMMUNO-COMPROMISE.
THOSE OF US WHO ARE VACCINATED ARE RISK OF ENDING UP ON A HOSPITAL.
THEY ARE NOT ZERO.
THEY ARE VERY, VERY LOW.
FINALLY, SINCE DAVID WENT AFTER TRISH WHO IS NOT HERE TO DEFEND HERSELF.
I WILL SAY SOMETHING NICE TO TRISH.
I THOUGHT SHE DID A FINE JOB.
SHE IS IN AT LEAST RAISED A TOUGH ISSUE.
IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, DO WE NEED TO RATION HOSPITAL BEDS BASED ON DID YOU OTHERWISE PROTECT YOURSELF?
I'M NOT SURE I'M READY TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
IT LEADS TO OTHER PLACES.
CREDIT TO TRISH FOR USING HER COLUMN TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND RAISE A DIFFICULT ISSUE WHICH IS TALKED ABOUT.
>> JOIN US FOR A PREMIER OF COLORADO INSIDE OUT SCOTT, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHTS?
>> WELL GOVERNOR POLIS IS IN A TRICKY SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS HE HAD TO DEAL WITH.
ALL EYES ARE ON HIM NOT IN COLORADO BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
COLORADO HAS BEEN A LEADER NOT JUST IN MANDATES BUT HOW THEY RESPOND IN PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
I WOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT HOW RIGHT NOW IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE TIME HE INITIALLY PUT THE MASK MANDATES.
FIRST HE HAS NOD DECLARED AN -- NOT DECLARED AN EMERGENCY.
SECOND, THE INITIAL MANDATE HAPPENED PRIOR TO HAVING A VACCINE.
THE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAD TO WEAR THE MASK AT THE TIME WAS EQUAL REGARDLESS OF YOUR STATUS, YOUR HEALTH STATUS, WHO YOU ARE, YOUR AGE.
IT APPLIED TO EVERYONE.
WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CLASSES OF PEOPLE.
WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THOSE VACCINATED AND THOSE UNVACCINATED.
HAVING TO HAVE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS FOR THE RECKLESS BEHAVIOR.
>> LET'S KEEP GOING.
>>> THIS WEEK THE CITY OF AURORA REACHED A SETTLEMENT WITH ELIJAH McCLAIN'S FAMILY TOTALLING OVER $15 MILLION.
THE SETTLEMENT IS THE LARGEST IN COLORADO HISTORY, AND EVEN RANKS HIGH AMONG OTHER STATES IN THE NATION.
DAVID, I'M MAKING THE ASSUMPTION A CITY SETTLES FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WOULD COST THEM MORE RESOURCES IF IT IS HARD DOLLARS OR NOT.
IS THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION IN THIS CASE?
>> THIS IS AS THE QUESTION SAYS IT IS A VERY HIGH SETTLEMENT EVEN COMPARED TO POLICE MISCONDUCT CASES.
IT COULD BE THAT AURORA SAID THIS IS ACTUALLY FAIR.
THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE TYPICAL POLICE MISCONDUCT CASES.
MOST CASES INVOLVE AN OFFICER WHO MADE A SPLIT SECOND DECISION THAT LATER TURNED OUT TO BE A MISTAKE.
MAYBE THE FAMILY CALLED THE POLICE TO THE HOUSE.
SOMEONE WAS THREATENING WITH A KNIFE.
THE OFFICER SHOTTED SOMEONE.
THIS WAS DIFFERENT.
IT WAS AGAINST SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL.
IT PERSISTED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
IT PERSISTED WHILE THE VICTIM WAS UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING AND COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL NOT ANY WAY A THREAT TO ANYONE.
IT HAD MULTIPLE OFFICERS INVOLVED AT THE BEGINNING AND THE PROBLEMS WERE COMPOUNDED BY MISTAKES BY THE EMTs FOLLOWING UP.
FOLLOWING THAT THERE IS NOW WHAT THE AURORA POLICE DEPARTMENT -- LOOKS TO BE A COVER UP WITH THE COMPLICITY OF THE COMMAND LEVEL OF THE DEPARTMENT.
GIVING THAT HUGE AMOUNT OVER MONTHS ULTIMATELY IT IS NO SURPRISE THERE WAS A VERY HIGH SETTLEMENT.
THE REASON WE HAVEN'T HAD THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THINGS WAS BECAUSE THE VICTIM'S MOTHER AND FATHER AND THEIR RESPECTIVE LAWYERS HAVE BEEN HAVING A VERY FIGHT ABOUT THE DIVISION OF THE MONEY.
>> ERIC WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE CALL?
WAS IT THE RIGHT MOVE?
>> THEY HAD TO MAKE -- IT SPEAKS TO THE INJUSTICE.
EITHER THEY DECIDED THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE SETTLEMENT OR DECIDED THAT EXPOSURE IN COURT IT MIGHT BE THAT NUMBER OR MIGHT EVEN BEEN MORE.
IT SPEAKS TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SETTLEMENT.
THIS GOT NATIONAL NEWS.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN CIVIL COURT, MONEY IS ALL YOU HAVE TO WRITE A WRONG.
THERE ARE CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST SOME OF THE OFFICERS IN QUESTION.
IN CIVIL COURT YOU DON'T BRING SOMEONE FROM THE DEAD.
MONEY IS ALL YOU HAVE.
LASTLY I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE NOT FOR GEORGE FLOYD WE MIGHT NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIJAH McCLAIN THEY MIGHT HAVE SUCCEEDED IN KEEPING IT HUSH, HUSH.
IT WAS ONLY IN A MUSH BROADER CONTEXT THIS CAME TO LIGHT AND INJUSTICE WAS EXPOSED.
>> HOW THIS WAS HANDLED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK HOW AURORA HANDED THIS CASE?
>> WELL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF AURORA.
WE HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS WAS POLITICAL AND LEGAL DECISION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OFF TO THE SIDE AND PROBABLY WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
WHAT IS MORE INTERESTING FOR THE AURORA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY ARE -- THEY WERE UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE ATTORNEY'S GENERAL OFFICE TO SEE IF THERE WAS A PATTERN AND PRACTICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS ABUSES.
THAT ABILITY FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO INVESTIGATE A POLICE DEPARTMENT CAME ABOUT DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF ELIJAH McCLAIN.
IN THE WAKE OF THAT TERRIBLE INCIDENT.
THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THE LAY GIVING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THESE MATTERS.
HE SAID NOT ONLY HAS THERE BEEN ABUSIVE IN TERMS OF EXCESSIVE FORCE, A PRACTICE OF RACIAL DISCRIMINATION WHEN IT COMES TO TARGETING A PERSON OF COLOR.
BUT THAT THERE IS THIS NOTION THAT COPS ARE INVESTIGATING COPS WHEN THEY ARE ABUSES.
IN OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES THERE IS INDEPENDENT MONITOR.
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE ATTORNEY'S GENERAL INVESTIGATION THERE MUST BE INDEPENDENT MONITOR FOR THE CITY OF AURORA.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT IS A WIN WHEN WE HAVE A TRAGIC LOSS.
>> PATTY, YOUR THOUGHTS IN AURORA?
>> PEOPLE DID NOT PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THIS WHEN IT HAPPENED ORIGINALLY AND WE COVERED IT.
IT DID NOT GET A LOT OF TRACTION.
IT WASN'T UNTIL GEORGE FLOYD IS WHEN PEOPLE STARTED TO LOOK INTO ELIJAH McCLAIN.
IT WASN'T THIS 23-YEAR-OLD BLACK KID DANCING WEARING A MASK.
EVEN THE 911 CALL SAID HE LOOKED WEIRD BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT LOOKED DANGEROUS.
HOW THE POLICE RESPONDED AND HOW THE INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY THE POLICE, BY THE DA THAT BASICALLY WIPED EVERYTHING.
THERE WAS NO PROBLEM THAT NOVEMBER.
MIKE SAID HE WOULD LIKE INTO IT.
SLOWERLY AURORA DID MAKE CHANGES.
VANESSA WILSON CAME IN.
THEY RECOGNIZE THEY WOULD NEVER WIN THIS CASE.
THEY MIGHT AS LOOK AT THIS CASE.
THEY MADE THAT DECISION BEFORE WISER CAME THROUGH.
HERE IS WHAT WE FOUND THAT IS WRONG.
THAT IS GOOD AURORA BIT THE BULLET.
AS DAVID SAID, THE FAMILY WAS FIGHTING.
WHO KNOW HOW THE FAMILY IS GOING TO RESPOND.
GLAD THE SETTLEMENT IS DONE.
LET'S SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO GET AURORA POLICE WORKING AGAIN.
>>> MONDAY AFTERNOON, A GUNMAN OPENED FIRE IN NOME PARK NEAR AURORA CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL LEAVING SIX STUDENTS INJURED.
SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS JOINED AURORA POLICE IN PROVIDING EMERGENCY CARE FOR THE VICTIMS.
IN THE WAKE OF THE SHOOTING CONVERSATIONS AROUND TEEN GUN VIOLATION AND THE USE OF SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS HAVE INCREASED URGENCY.
ERIC, WE ARE BACK TO AURORA.
YOU SEE A TRAGIC EPISODE OF GUN VIOLATION HERE.
SIX TEENAGERS SURVIVED TWO OF THEM WITH SIGNIFICANT RECOVERIES AHEAD.
WHAT IS AURORA FACING MOVING FORWARD AND THIS WHOLE OFFICER COULD SAVE A LIFE.
>> LET ME TRY TO BE QUICK.
I THINK THE WAY YOU PHRASE THE QUESTION IS WE ARE BACK TO AURORA.
YEARS AGO IT WAS DENVER CENTRIC.
AURORA IS BECOMING THE EPICENTERS IN THE METRO AREA.
WHAT A SAD INCIDENT.
I DON'T KNOW WE ARE YET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
AT THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, THERE ARE PROBLEM WITH RESOURCE OFFICERS IN SOME SCHOOLS CRIMINALIZING SOME KIDS WHO DON'T DESERVE TO BE CRIMINALIZED.
YOU WILL MISS THEM WHEN THEY ARE GONE.
I GOT TO BELIEVE THE RESULTS ARE OVERWHELMING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
>> SCOTT, THE RIGHT FOLKS INVOLVED AROUND THESE ISSUES IN AURORA?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT THE COLORADO IS KNOWN FOR MARIJUANA, WE ARE KNOWN FOR SKIING, WE ARE NOW KNOWN FOR MASS SHOOTINGS.
WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THIS SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY ARE THESE HAPPENING?
SO I AM TROUBLED.
I AM SADDENED BY ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING.
AS THEY ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WE SHOULDN'T JUST SAY WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH.
THAT THERE IS MORE THAN WE CAN DO IN COLORADO SHOULD DEMAND MORE.
WHETHER THAT IS LIABILITY FOR GUN MANUFACTURES.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
>> AURORA SEEMS TO BE THE EPICENTER FOR A LOT OF ISSUES RIGHT NOW.
DO YOU THINK WE WILL SEE SOME OF THEIR POLICIES LIKE WE SAW TEN 20 YEARS AGO.
>> WE HAVE SEEN THEY ADOPTED THE INDEPENDENT MONITOR.
I THINK AURORA IS REACTING QUICKLY.
THIS IS NOT NEW TO THEM.
I WURZ TALKING ABOUT PARENTS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THINGS.
RESPONSIBLE HANDLING OF GUNS.
HE TALKED TO US THIS WEEK IN THE WAKE OF THIS SHOOTING.
AND HOW THE NRA HAD SECRET DISCUSSIONS THE DAY OF COLUMBINE HOW THEY WILL PLAY IT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS IN THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THIS.
>> DAVID, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ANGLES TO THIS.
DO YOU FEEL THERE IS SOME PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS ON ANY OF THE ISSUES INVOLVED?
>> NO.
HAPPILY AURORA HAS KEPT HIS RESOURCE OFFICERS.
THEY HELP SAVED LIVES PROVIDING EMERGENCY CARE.
WHY SCHOOL RESOURCES OFFICERS ARE IMPORTANT.
ONE AT ARAPAHOE HIGH SCHOOL IN 2013 STOPPED A MASS SHOOTERS.
WHO KNOWS HOW LIVES WERE SAVED THERE.
THE SAD THING IS DENVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS DIRECTORS UNDER THEIR DEFUND THE POLICE THEORY KICKED THE SROs OUT AND MAKE THINGS WORSE OFF.
THERE ALREADY BEEN ATTEMPTS TO SCAPEGOAT LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS.
CITIES CAN BAN CONCEALED.
THEY ARE THE MOST LAW-ABIDING IN THE STATE OF COLORADO.
YOU CRACK DOWN ON THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THE PREP TRAITORS.
>> WE HAVE BEEN A LITTLE CHATTY TODAY.
WE WILL GO TO OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE SHOW DISGRACE OF THE WEEK.
>> YOU MIGHT NOT SLEEP WELL ON ONE OF HIS PILLOWS.
THE FACT HE HAS TAKEN THE SIDE OF TINA PETERS AND OTHERS SUBJECT TO A SEARCH BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE INVOLVED ON ELECTIONS ON MESA COUNTY.
INCREDIBLE SAGA THAT KEEPS GOING.
>> DAVID?
>> THE FOLKS THAT ONLY GET THEIR NEWS FROM THINGS LIKE ONE AMERICAN NEWS OR NEWS MAX BELIEVE THIS KIND OF STUFF BY MIKE LIN DALE.
GOOD FOR THEM FOR NOT BELIEVING THAT.
IF YOUR UNDERSTANDING LIKE THE KYLE WRITTEN HOUSE CASE IS BASED ON CNN YOU ARE EQUALLY MISINFORMED AND JUST AS MUCH AS PROFESSIONAL LIARS.
>> ERIC?
>> LET'S ME GO BACK TO OUR GOVERNOR.
THE PAPERS I WRITE FOR COLORADO POLITICS AND GAZETTE PAPERS WHAT LOOKS TO BE A CONTRACT OF $85,000 TO HIS INTERIM AND FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF WHO HAVE TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RELATED TO COVID MANAGEMENT AND COVID WE LEAF.
IT LOOKS LIKE SELF-DEALING.
IT LOOKS LIKE BAD JUDGMENT ON THE GOVERNOR'S PART.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WHEELS ARE COMING OFF THE POLIS ADMINISTRATION.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN SOME QUESTION MARKS THAT HE HAS BROUGHT INTO PLAY INCLUDING HIS OWN TAX ISSUE.
HE IS PROVIDING A LOT OF AMMUNITION THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST HIM.
>> SCOTT?
>> I PILE ON TINA PETERS WHO FED INTO THE CONSPIRACIES AND THE LIES.
SHAME ON HER.
>> TIME TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT SOMEBODY.
>> WE CAN TALK A LONG TIME ABOUT KATHY REYNOLDS, THE CHAMBERS WAS JUST NAMED AFTER HER ON MONDAY NIGHT.
SHE WAS NEVER AFRAID TO TAKE A STAND.
SHE CARED ABOUT THIS CITY.
SHE LIKED THIS SHOW.
THAT IS MAYBE THE ONLY BAD JUDGMENT.
SHE WAS A WONDERFUL ROLL MODEL.
IT IS GREAT SHE IS REMEMBERED THAT WAY.
>> DAVID?
>> RIGHT MOVE AND LONG OVER DUE.
>> ERIC?
>> HERE, HERE TO PATTY'S SHOUTOUT.
HELLO RICK REYNOLDS WHO IS A REGULAR VIEWER OF THE PROGRAM.
LET ME GO ELSEWHERE.
THE UNIVERSITY OF AUSTIN IS A NEW VENTURE IN THE HIGHER ED WORLD FORMED BY A LOT OF SCHOLARS WHO ARE TIRED OF WHAT GOES ON IN HIGHER ED.
THE WOKENESS.
I CAN GO ON.
I WON'T.
WE WILL SEE IF THE UNIVERSITY GETS OFF THE GROUND.
SOMEBODY WHO LEFT ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE TO FORM THIS.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF CHALLENGES AHEAD.
WHAT AN INTERESTING COUNTER POINT TO SOME MUCH OF THE NONSENSE WE HAVE SEEN.
>> SCOTT?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO THE REDISTRICTING MEMBERS AND JUDGES WHO SAW THE CASES.
WE HAD MAPS THAT WERE UPHELD ON A ANONYMOUS BASIS.
THE PEOPLE WHO WENT AND HAD THE DOZENS OF HEARINGS SHOULD BE COMMENDED.
>> I WANT TO GET ON THE ACTION FOR A COUPLE POINTS.
IT IS THAT SPECIAL TIME OF YEAR.
THANKSGIVING NEXT WEEK.
WE WILL NOT BE DOING OUR REGULAR SHOW.
WE WILL BE HAVING A SPECIAL NIGHT OF PROGRAMMING.
IF YOU MISSED IT, WE HAVE OUR BIG SEASON OF GENERATION GRID AND BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY EVERY FRIDAY.
THE THIRD PLACE MATCHES BEGIN ON THE 26th.
BE SURE TO CHECK IT OUT.
REALLY SOME TOP NOTCH DEBATES FROM SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL DEBATERS IN THE STATE OF COLORADO.
WE AIR ONE OF OUR TIME MACHINE SHOWS.
WE ARE BRINGING BACK THE 1973 TIME MACHINE SHOW.
THE EXTENDED CUT WHICH INCLUDES SPECIAL INTERVIEWS WITH REBECCA AND NIETA GONZALEZ.
IT WILL BE A GREAT TIME TO VISIT THAT.
RELATED TO THAT THOSE TIME MACHINE SHOWS THAT WE HAVE DONE A WHOLE LOT OF THEM WERE MADE POSSIBLE BY OUR PRODUCER WHO IS LARRY.
HE HAS FOUND A LITTLE HOUSE IN THE PRAIRIE FOR LARRY.
HE WILL BE MOVING TO PARKS TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS SHOW EVERY WEEK.
HE HAS BEEN PART OF THIS PROGRAM FOR 24 YEARS.
WE STARTED 30th SEASON IN JANUARY.
YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
HE HAS BEEN HERE MOST OF THE TIME FOR EPISODES.
ALWAYS A CREATIVE FORCE FOR OUR BIG MOMENTS.
IT HAS BEEN -- HE WILL NOT BE A STRANGER.
WE WILL SEE HIM FROM TIME TO TIME.
SO LARRY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR US FOR BEING AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR TEAM.
BEST OF LUCK.
FROM EVERYONE HERE AT COLORADO INSIDE OUT.
I'M DOMINIC DEZZUTTI.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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