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>> HEY, WE ARE BACK AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US AS WE DISCUSS THE ISSUES OF THE WEEK HERE IN ST.

LOUIS.

THEN HALF HOUR WE'LL TAKE YOUR PHONE CALLS.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS AROUND THE BIG GREEN TABLE FOR THIS EDITION, STARTING WITH THE NEWS DIRECTOR HERSELF OF KTRS.

SHE'S WENDY WIESE, ALONG WITH MR.

BILL McCLELLAN, THE GREAT COLUMNIST FROM THE ST.

LOUIS POST-DISPATCH.

YOU HEAR HIME 9:00 TO 11:00 WEEK NIGHTS ON KTRS AND YOU READ HIM IN THE RIVERFRONT TIMES.

HE'S RAY HARTMANN.

AND FROM THE DAVE GLOVER SHOW ON 97.1 FM NEWS TALK, THE ST.

LOUIS AMERICAN, STL AMERICAN.COM AND 590, ALVIN REID WITH WHOM WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I GUESS THE COURTS HAVE RULED THAT THE NFL OWNERS PHONE RECORDS CAN BE TURNED OVER TO THE LOCALS HERE IN ST.

LOUIS WHO ARE SUING THE NFL OVER THE, I GUESS THE MOVEMENT OF THE RAMS FROM ST.

LOUIS TO LOS ANGELES.

IS THIS A GAME CHANGER, ALVIN REID?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO, AND I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE.

THERE'S TWO STORIES BREAKING TODAY.

ONE CAME OUT OF ESPN WHERE SOMEONE OF THEIR NFL INSIDERS SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN A TRANSCRIPT OF A CONVERSATION BETWEEN KROENKE AND COMMISSIONER ROGER GOODELL, SO I DON'T WANT THE GOOD TEAM OF ST.

LOUIS TO THINK BY GETTING THE PHONE RECORDS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRANSCRIPTS OF ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THOSE TWO THINGS AREN'T GOING TOGETHER.

I STILL THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THE LOSING END OF THIS, BUT WITH ALL THIS FALLING ST.

LOUIS'S WAY, RATHER THAN, LIKE I SAY, THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD AND CONTINUE THAT, HOW ABOUT WE TRY TO MAKE AN END RUN AND GET SOMETHING, MAYBE THE SAN DIEGO CHARGERS, MAYBE A FEW FUTURE PROMISE FOR A TEAM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALL YOU GET IS WE EMBARRASSED STAN KROENKE, WHAT HAVE YOU REALLY GOT?

THIS TEAM IS OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING IN THIS PALACE AND WE'RE LEFT BEHIND.

I MEAN, GOOD, WE MADE THEM LOOK BAD, BUT THERE'S NO SUBSTANCE.

>> I'MING WITH TO ADMIT THAT I WAS -- I'M WILLING TO ADMIT THAT I WAS WRONG INITIALLY AND ALL ALONG I'VE BEEN AGAINST THIS LAWSUIT AND WITH THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD AND IT'S A SILLY THING TO DO, BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE HOME COURT ADVANTAGE WITH THE SUPREME COURT TODAY AND JIM BENNETT OF BENNETT AND DOWDS ARE A FINE LAWYER, SO I I'VE BEEN WRONG.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO PLAY IT OUT.

>> YOU LEFT ME BY MYSELF.

>> AND I AM ALSO WILLING TO ADMIT THAT BILL WAS WRONG.

ACTUALLY, I WAS THERE WITH HIM.

I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS RIDICULOUS AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE FROM A STANDPOINT OF ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT THERE'S ANY PROSPECT WHATSOEVER OF US GETTING AN NFL TEAM.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE CAN SUPPORT ONE, FRANKLY, WITH THE CORPORATE PIE THAT WE HAVE AND I THINK THE BLUES, THE CARDINALS, AND THE SOCCER TEAM, THEY WOULD NEVER SAY IT, WOULD HAVE A -- IT WOULD NOT BE -- IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE WISE.

>> DON'T FORGET THE XFL.

>> WELL, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A FACILITY TO PLAY AN NFL QUALITY STANDARDS NOW AND IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I'M -- I HAVE TO SAY, WE'RE MAIG ON HOME -- TALK ABOUT HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE.

>> WHICH IS WHAT -- >> I HOPE WE GET -- THIS IS THE WAY, HELP ME, FOOTBALL, FISH MAD DEPOSIT.

THIS IS THE WAY THEY SETTLED A PREVIOUS LAWSUIT, CORRECT, IN TERMS OF BALTIMORE GETTING A TEAM.

>> CORRECT, YES.

>> SO IF THEY -- THAT WAS AN EXPANSION TEAM.

SO I'M NOT -- CHRISTMAS IS COMING.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> BALTIMORE DID NOT HAVE THE SINGULARLY BAD HISTORY WITH THE NFL.

WE HAVE NOW SUED THEM, I THINK, THREE TIMES.

>> WITH BILL BIDWELL, STAN KROENKE.

>> WE SUED THEM AFTER BIDWELL, WHICH IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THEM, WHICH IS WHY THEY VOTED 24-4 AGAINST MOVING THE RAMS HERE.

>> DID CLEVELAND SUE OR BALTIMORE SUE?

BALTIMORE IS WHEN ART MODELL MOVED THE TEAM TO BALTIMORE.

IT WASN'T THE RESULT OF A LAWSUIT.

>> CLEVELAND AFTER THAT.

>> AND THEY LINED UP TO SUE -- >> AND THEY HAD THEM -- >> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY, ALVIN, YOU DON'T BELIEVE YEAR GOING TO GET A NFL TEAM.

EVEN IF THE SAN DIEGO CHARGERS ARE NOT HAPPY, YOU DON'T SEE THIS.

>> THAT COULD HAPPEN.

ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN.

THE ONE THING THAT ST.

LOUIS HAS CREATED IS AN ARGUMENT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, NFL?

BECAUSE WE KEEP WINNING THESE CASES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AT THE SUPREME COURT.

>> WE'RE NOT WINNING CASES.

JUST RULINGS.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

>> AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE WOULD LOSE AT THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT BECAUSE TURNING OVER PHONE RECORDS -- >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE TO IMPOSE ON AN NFL OWNER?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> HANG ON A SECOND.

WE HAVE A BUILD A $1.1 BILLION STADIUM.

THERE'S A PROBLEM.

>> AS A FOOTBALL FAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TEAM, BUT THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY THAT MR.

SPANOS COULD AFFORD TO BUILD A STADIUM AND IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT US GIVING GOOD MONEY, FORGET IT.

>> LET'S MOVE ON.

LET'S TALK ABOUT PARTIES.

SERGEANT KEITH WILDHABER OF THE ST.

LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT SUFFICIENTLY SUED AFTER BEING MOVPASSED OVER, GOT A BIG JUDGMENT.

TURNS OUT MAYOR LYDA KREWSON WENT TO HIS VICTORY PARTY AND IN A PIECE IN SUNDAY'S POST-DISPATCH, IT WAS SUGGESTED THIS WAS THE IMPOLITIC THING TO DO IF SHE'S TRYING TO BE BETTER TOGETHER AND EXTEND A OLIN OLIVE BRANCH AND WORK TOGETHER WITH SAM PAGE OF THE ST.

LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL, SHE SHOULD NOT BE AT A PARTY CELEBRATING A $20 MILLION JUDGMENT AGAINST THE COUNTY.

>> I HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE.

I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM SO MUCH, AND OBVIOUSLY SHE IS JACOB LONG'S BOSS.

SHE'S THE NEW SPOKESPERSON AND I COULD -- I COULD CONCEIVE OF A SCENARIO IN WHICH JACOB LONG, IN A MOMENT OF UNBRIDLED EXUBERANCE OVER THE OUTCOME AND WORKING FOR MAYOR KREWSON IN THE FIRST PLACE, HIS JOB IS TO PROTECT HER FROM JUST THIS KIND OF REACTION, WHICH I THINK IS OVERBLOWN ANYWAY.

BUT MAYBE HE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, ON HIS OWN TWITTER FEED, THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE THAT -- THAT IT WOULDN'T LAND AS HARLSHLY AND AS HARD AS IT DID ON MAYOR KREWSON WHEN IT CAME TO WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP SHE MUST HAVE WITH A THE COUNTY.

>> POINT OF ORDER.

A PHOTO OF HER WAS TWEETED THERE, RIGHT?

>> SHE WAS TWEETED WITH SERGEANT WILDHABER AND SHE WAS CLEARLY PART OF THE CELEBRATION.

SHE IS -- IT COULD EASILY HAVE LAPPED WHERE SHE GOES IN, SHE SHAKES HANDS, THE OPTICS ARE GREAT, SHE'S SEEN BY THE PEOPLE SHE NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY.

I JUST THINK THIS COULD HAVE BEEN A -- AND HE'S NEW AND MAYBE I'M READING THIS ALL WRONG AND LYDA KREWSON SAID -- >> NO, YOU'RE SAYING HE'S AT FAULT, NOT THE MAYOR.

>> I'M SAYING IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A, I'M A NEW GUY ON THE JOB AND I DON'T REALIZE THAT THESE TYPES OF REACTIONS ARE EVEN POSSIBLE, AND I -- YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE MAYOR.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE YOUNG MAN, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENS AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT HURTS LYDA KREWSON AT ALL.

>> I DON'T EITHER.

>> AND BESIDES, I DON'T KNOW WHY SAM PAGE WOULD BE MAD.

I'M SURPRISED HE WASN'T AT THE PARTY.

HE WAS THE GUY TALKING ABOUT HOW WE WILL NOT USE THE ONLY DEFENSE -- HE WAS THE SERGEANT'S SIDE.

>> BUT SAM PAGE WAS THERE, CORRECT?

>> HE WAS.

>> I DON'T DOUBT IT.

>> SO WHY WOULD -- >> I GOT TO SAY -- >> BECAUSE HE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BOARD OF FREE HOLDERS AND DOUG MOORE.

>> FIRST OF ALL, KEITH WILDHABER IS A VERY SYMPATHETIC FIGURE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> IN ST.

LOUIS AND HE SHOULD BE.

HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

ST.

LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DID STUFF TO HIM AND SO, I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU THINK OF THE VERDICT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR HER AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS BAD POLITICS AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK AS A COUNTY RESIDENT THAT IT WAS A POKE IN THE EYE TO ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

I MEAN -- >> IT PERPETUATES THE NARRATIVE THAT -- >> IT ABSOLUTELY WAS.

HER ADVISORS THOUGHT IT -- I GUESS THEY CAN'T MAKE HER GO PLACES BUT HER ADVISORS SAY YOU NEED TO GO TO THAT BECAUSE ALL THIS BETTER TOGETHER AND ALL THAT FELL APART AND THE COUNTY THIS AND THE COUNTY THAT, LET'S POKE A LITTLE STICK IN THEIR EYE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE SAYING, WHEN BEST TO KICK A MAN?

>> YOU CAN'T KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN.

>> THIS WAS DONE PURPOSELY BECAUSE NOBODY IS VOTING FOR HER FROM THE COUNTY AND IF SHE SHOULD DECIDE TO RUN, THIS IS A CONTINGENCY THAT SHE WANTS TO GET AS MANY VOTES AS SHE CAN FROM AND THAT WOULD BE A SPLIT, SAY SHADOW MAYOR RAN AGAINST HER, TISHAURA JONES, SO THIS WAS -- OH, THIS WAS STRATEGIC IN EVERY WAY, SHAPE AND FORM.

>> I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR SHOWED UP AT A CELEBRATION WHERE A GAY MAN WHO WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST WAS VICTORIOUS, SO SHE CELEBRATED THAT, BUT I THINK MAY BE WENDY IS RIGHT THAT SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TWEETED TO IT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHE WAS DANCING ON SOMEBODY'S GRAVE.

>> I'M NOT SURE -- IT WAS ON JACOB LONG'S TWITTER FEED.

I'M NOT SURE IT WAS ON HERS.

>> REAL QUICK, THE POLICE ARE GETTING SUED NINE WAYS TO SUNDAY.

ARE THEY GOING TO SHOW UP WHEN THEY AWARD -- >> GOOD POINT, ALVIN.

BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A STORY THAT WE FOLLOWED A LITTLE BIT.

GOVERNOR PARSON AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY GAVE $50 MILLION IN TAX INCENTIVES TO GM -- TO GENERAL MOTORS TO EXPAND THE WENTZVILLE EXPAND BY $1.5 MILLION.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPANSIONS IN MISSOURI FOR SURE.

NOW AS A RESULT OF THE UAW AGREEMENT, GENERAL MOTORS LASS AGREED WITH THE UNION TO MAINTAIN 2,000 JOBS THERE, WHICH IS ALL FINE AND G EXCEPT THERE ARE 4300 JOBS THERE NOW.

SO WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE BUILDING OF ROBOTS THAT ARE GOING TO ELIMINATE SOME JOBS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

>> THINK IT'S A WISE THING TO DO.

NO, THE ONLY DEFENSE YOU CAN MAKE FOR THIS, IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS THROWING MONEY AT CORPORATIONS, THEN THE THING IS, OKAY, WE'LL DO IT TOO.

SO IF OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T PUTTING CONDITIONS ON IT, WHY WOULD WE?

BECAUSE THEY WOULD SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU WANT TO MAKE US DO THIS?

NO.

SO IT'S A BAD SYSTEM, BUT WE'RE IN IT AND WHO KNOWS?

MAYBE IF WE HADN'T GIVEN THEM 50 MILLION, MAYBE THEY'D CUT ALL THE JOBS.

>> IT'S A GREAT THING WE'VE DONE.

>> IT'S WHAT'S SO STUNNING ABOUT IT IS THAT GOVERNOR PARSON IS RUNNING AGAINST NICOLE GALLAWAY, RIGHT?

AND SHE'S THE, WHAT, STATE AUDITOR?

SO HE HAS HANDED HER ALREADY ON A SILVER PLATTER, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS.

>> VIRTUALLY, IT WAS GOING AROUND THE SOLD.

>> PERSONALLY SOLD -- GOING AROUND THE STATE.

>> PERSONALLY SOLD THIS AND SHE'S GOING TO HAVE A BALL WITH THIS KIND OF THING.

IF YOU DON'T ATTACH ANY PENALTIES, IF THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR GENERAL MOTORS, IF WE'RE JUST -- HERE, TAKE OUR MONEY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING SHE'S GOING TO USE IN HER CAMPAIGN.

>> I THINK BILL IS PARTLY RIGHT BECAUSE -- >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> NO, PARTLY.

IF IN FACT THIS IS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR STATES, HEY, HERE'S 50 MILLION BUCKS AND A REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE OUT THERE IN THAT AREA WANTED TO PUT SOME STIPULATIONS THAT HAD 90 OR 95% OF THE JOBS WOULD STILL BE THERE, IF IT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR A STATE NOT TO PROTECT ITSELF, THEN YOU'D BE RIGHT.

I HAVE A HARD TIME IMAGINING IT IS.

IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS SINGULARLY FOOLISH ON THE PART OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI THAT WE HAD NO PROTECTIONS FOR WHAT -- FOR THAT 50 MILLION BUCKS.

AGAIN, THE GENERAL PRINCIPLE, NONE OF US LIKE GIVING MONEY AWAY LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE RIGHT TO THE EXTENT THAT FIT MEANT THEY WERE GOING TO GO TO ANOTHER STATE, IT'S THE SAME OL' SAME OL'.

>> THE REASON I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT I THINK WE MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING HERE WAS HOW FAST IT HAPPENED.

THE GOVERNOR JUST SIGNED THAT BILL DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, SO IT'S NOT EVEN SIX MONTHS HAVING GONE BY AND THEY'RE ALREADY SAYING, YOU KNOW ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT -- >> ALL THE JOBS, YEAH.

[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> YOU KNOW WHAT?

-- >> THE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE UNION.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> I DON'T THINK NICOLE GALLAWAY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPPOSE IT.

OTHERWISE SHE'S GOING TO HAVE THE UAW, BECAUSE THEY AT LEAST WANT THOSE 2,000 JOBS HERE, SO I GOT TO BELIEVE THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSIDY.

>> OH, NO, THEY SOLD YOU OUT.

>> HER ISSUE IS -- WHAT I SAID -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> ON THE HONOR SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT PROTECTING THE JOBS.

>> THEY KNEW, THEY KNEW WHEN THEY CRAFTED THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A CLAW BACK PROVISION.

>> CORRECT.

>> AND IT WAS PERFECTLY NOT PUT IN THERE AND -- >> WHY?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT?

SHE'S GOING TO -- WHAT PARSON IS GOING TO SAY IS EXACTLY WHAT BILL SAID.

IF WE DIDN'T MAKE THIS DEAL, THEY WOULD HAVE MOVED TO FLINT OR JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.

>> I'M NOT SO SURE OTHER STATES THAT ARE CARELESS.

>> BUT IF THAT WAS THE DEAL, YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WE MIGHT LOSE JOB, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE PLAYERS.

>> BILL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE BOARD OF FREE HOLDERS IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS COUNTY AND MAYOR LYDA KREWSON RECENTLY REVISED HER LIST OF NINE NOMINEES.

SHE GOT SOME FLACK BECAUSE SHE HAD ONLY ONE PERSON LIVING NORTH OF DELMAR.

THE NEW LIST HAS THREE OR FOUR LIVING NORTH OF DELMAR, BUT HER LIST IS BEING CRITICIZED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYONE THAT'S BOSNIAN, ASIAN, LATINO, OR LGBT.

DID SHE ERR ONCE AGAIN?

>> MY BIAS IS WITH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.

THIS IS PLANNING THE FUTURE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ALWAYS GO TO THE USUAL SUSPECTS.

THAT'S MY FIRST -- YOU CAN'T DO NOAH'S ARC.

I KNOW THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, THESE ARE PEOPLE GIVING UP THEIR TIME -- >> THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE IS THE DIVERSITY OF THE BOARD.

>> BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE -- IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT HARD, I GUESS IS MY POINT, TO SIT DOWN -- THIS IS ONE OF THE TIMES WHERE YOU SIT DOWN IN ADVANCE WITH THE OTHER SIDE, THE ALDERMEN, AND WORK THIS OUT.

NOW IT'S THIS TORTURED PROCESS AND I DON'T BLAME ANY ONE PARTICULAR COMMUNITY FOR STICKING -- >> BUT I MEAN -- >> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT EASIER -- >> IN THE COUNTY, THEY PUT OUT WHO WANTS TO BE ON THIS, AND THEY PICKED FROM A LONG LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO BE ON THE, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE AS OPPOSED TO SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS ALL IN THE MAYOR'S HANDS AND ROOM 200 AND ONCE AGAIN, THE ADVISORS AND ALL THAT.

SO THEY GOT BAD ADVISE JUST LIKE THEY DID WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE AT THE RIBBON CUTTING AT THE ARCH.

NOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

>> TAKE ANOTHER PICTURE.

>> BUT HERE'S THE THING.

THIS WHOLE NATIONALITY, SOMEBODY FROM THE AMAZON RAINFOREST IS GOING TO BE SLEIGHTED AND THEY, TOO ARE, ARE GOING TO BE ANGRY.

TRULY, YOU CAN'T GO BY NATIONALITY.

YOU CAN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE BOSNIAN REPRESENTATION, BUT THE LGBT COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT COMMUNITY.

>> LET'S FACE IT -- >> AND WHAT IS HER NAME?

SHE WAS ALREADY ON IT AND NOW THEY'VE TAKEN IT ON OF.

>> SIDE ISSUE FOR YOUR PERUSAL, WHAT ABOUT SAM MOORE, BOARD OF ALDERMEN, WHO SAID WHY SHOULD THERE BE AN ASIAN FROM NORTH ST.

LOUIS ON THE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE SOMEONE SUGGESTED THAT, AND THIS IS A QUOTE, THE ONLY ASIANS IN NORTH ST.

LOUIS ARE THOSE SELLING RICE AT CHOP SUEY RESTAURANTS.

WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT, ALVIN REID?

>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS HORRIFIC.

I DON'T NECESSARILY TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO RESIGN, BUT THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN SHOULD TAKE SOME ACTION ON THAT AND IF HE COULD BE REPLACED ON THAT COMERKT I THINK THAT CALLS FOR THAT.

IF ONE OF THE WHITE ALDER MEN SAID I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HAVING A BLACK REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOLLY HILLS BECAUSE THE ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WE SEE WORKED AT THE FRIED CHICKEN PLACE AND THEY LEAVE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WOULD BE IN A STANDSTILL.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY GET -- THAT WOULD BE INACCURATE, BUT FRANKLY, THERE ARE VERY FEW IF ANY ASIANS LIVING NORTH OF DELMAR AND YOU GO UP GRAND AND THERE ARE ONE CHOP SUEY, AND THEY CALL THEM CHOP SUEY, THEY DON'T CALL THEM ASIAN -- GOO BUT THAT'S A TROPE AND -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> YOU'RE PERPETUATING SUCH A STEREOTYPE.

YOU CAN'T SAY, OH, WELL -- >> IT'S ACCURATE.

>> IT'S HORRIBLE.

>> IT WAS ACCURATE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

>> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMEBODY A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK AND I THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK SAM MOORE MEANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ASIANS AT ALL.

>> WELL, HE WAS.

>> HE'S SAYING THAT THERE AREN'T ANY ASIANS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

>> ONE THING HE DID SAY THAT I THINK WE RUN FROM IN ST.

LOUIS AND THIS IS PART OF OUR PROBLEM, BUT HE DID STATE THIS CORRECTLY BECAUSE I'VE LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

OUR ISSUES ARE BLACK AND WHITE IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

YOU DON'T HAVE LARGE ENOUGH OTHER MINORITY POPULATIONS.

ST.

LOUIS'S BACK AND FORTH IS BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE.

>> I WOULD SAY THIS -- >> THERE'S LATINO, BOSNIAN -- >> I CAN THINK OF A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES.

OUR ISSUES, GO DOWN TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, YOU GOT BLACK PEOPLE, YOU GOT WHITE PEOPLE.

>> Reporter: -- ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH LITHUANIAN, IRISH -- >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOSNIANS THERE ARE IN THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN ONE-NINTH AND THE POINT BEING, NOT THAT I'M SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T BLAME A COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT -- THAT WANTS TO SPEAK UP, THAT SAYS, HEY, WHAT ABOUT US?

IF THEY LEFT THE SOUTH SIDE OUT -- >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE BOSNIAN COMMUNITY THAT SPOKE UP.

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

SOMEBODY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THEM, BUT MY POINT IS, YOU CAN MAKE ANY ARGUMENT YOU WANT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK IT SHOULD BE YOUNGER PEOPLE AND AS DIVERSE AS YOU CAN MAKE IT.

>> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE ALDERMEN -- >> THERE'S OTHER GROUPS, TOO, LIKE THE DISABLED.

>> I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

>> ON THAT SUBJECT, ALVIN REID, WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF A STORY THAT WAS FIRST IN THE L.A.

TIMES AND THEN SEATTLE COVERED, I THINK ACTUALLY BEFORE WE DO, AND THAT IS THAT IN MISSOURI, SOME PEOPLE PURPORTING TO BE CHEROKEE ARE GETTING JOBS.

IN FACT A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THE MAYOR OF ST.

LOUIS ANNOUNCED THE DEMOLITION -- $300,000 DEMOLITION CONTRACT, THEY SAID, HEY, IT'S BEING DONE BY MINORITY.

WELL, THE L.A.

TIMES LOOK INTO IT AND THE MINORITY WAS SOME GUY WHO PURPORTED TO BE A CHEROKEE, BUT HE HAED NO RELATIVES OF CHEROKEE ANCESTRY AND HE ACTUALLY CLAIM TO BE PART OF A TRIBE THAT IS NOT RECOGNIZED BY OTHER CHEROKEE TRIBES.

NOW PEOPLE THINK THE FRAUD-O-METER IS GOING OFF.

IF .28% OF THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS IS NATIVE AMERICAN, MUCH LESS CHEROKEE, SHOULD THERE BE CONTRACTS SET ASIDE FOR PEOPLE WHO CLAIM CHEROKEE HAERITAGE AT ALL?

>> WELL, IF YOU ACTUALLY QUALIFY AND THESE PEOPLE DID NOT.

THERE SHOULD BE A PENALTY ON TOP OF NOT GIVING HIM MORE CONTRACTS.

THAT'S FRAUD.

BUT YES, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE, BECAUSE JUST THEY'RE NOT HERE, I MIGHT MOVE HERE.

IF I GREW UP AND I WAS NATIVE AMERICAN, I'M A NATIVE AMERICAN PERSON AND I GREW UP IN A BOROUGH OF NEW YORK, NEVER LIVED ANYWHERE ELSE, I'M A NEW YORKER, I SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR AN MBE CONTRACT EVEN IF THE POPULATION OF MANHATTAN IS 0.01 NATIVE AMERICAN.

I STILL QUALIFY.

>> I WOULD SAY IN ST.

LOUIS, THOUGH, IF SOMEONE IS MOVING HERE TO GET A SENIORITY FROM THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS BECAUSE HE'S CHEROKEE, THAT'S SOMEONE HEES TAKEN THE CONTRACT AWAY FROM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CERTIFIED MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE OWNER.

>> CHARLIE, THE MINORITY PROGRAM SET-ASIDES ARE FOR MINORITIES AND WHETHER THEY'RE LATINOS, WHETHER THEY'RE NATIVE AMERICANS, WHETHER THEY'RE BLACKS, THEY QUALIFY.

I MEAN, WHAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS THE FRAUD, LIKE THIS GUY CLAIMING TO BE -- OR THE BUSINESSMEN WHO TURN THE BUSINESS OVER TO THEIR WIFE SO THEY CAN BE WOMEN MINORITY OWNED.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE WANT TO GO AFTER.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> NOT LEGITIMATE MINORITIES.

>> I JUST ATTENDED A THING AT THE GARDEN THIS PAST WEEKEND ON WHAT WE DO TO THE OSAGE.

>> WAS THAT IN MISSOURI?

>> YES, THE OSAGE AND THE CHEROKEE TO ME LEGITIMATELY, ABSOLUTELY THEY SHOULD QUALIFY FOR IT, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT FRAUDULENTLY, AND THIS DEMEANS THE ONGOING GROUPS AND FOLKS CELEBRATING AND REMEMBERING AND PROTECTING THE CHEROKEE AND THE OSAGE, YOU KNOW, TRADITION -- >> WERE THE CHEROKEE HERE, TOO?

>> TRAIL OF TEARS.

>> YEAH, WALKING THROUGH.

>> WALKING THROUGH, BUT THE OSAGE -- >> I'M NOT MAKING A JOKE ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY CAME THROUGH HERE.

.

BUT COULD YOU SEE HAVING TO HAVE A CHEEK SWAB TO PROVE THAT YOU WERE SOMETHING?

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THAT LEVEL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, T YOU WERE CLAIMING TO BE A NATIVE AMERICAN, I WOULD LOOK INTO THAT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THESE NEWSPAPERS DID WAS BUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME ALL OVER AMERICA AND THE FIRST THING ST.

LOUIS SHOULD HAVE DONE IS SAY I'M SORRY, THOUGH THESE PEOPLE OFF THE JOB.

I'LL GIVE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DOWN THERE A LITTLE BIT OF CREDIT.

THEY DIDN'T GO INTO IT, BUT THEY DID THIS FOUR MONTHS AFTER -- IT'S JUST COMING OUT NOW, BUT THEY HAD ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF THE PROBLEM.

>> FINAL TOPIC, I THINK T I WANT TO ASK YOU, RAY, ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC SCHMITT WEIGHED IN THIS WEEK ON TIME AND PUNISHMENT ISSUES IN THE WEEK.

I THINK HE SUPPORTED THE POLICE CHIEF JOHN HAYDEN SUPPORTING ABOLISHING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT SO POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

THEN HE'D LIKE TO INCREASE THE PENALTIES FOR CARJACKING, WHICH WE HAVE ABOUT ONE A DAY ALMOST NOW IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS, FROM TEN YEARS TO LIFE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE FIRST POINT, I AGREE WITH HIM AND WITH THE CHIEF, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE DECISION -- I STILL THINK IT'S UP TO THE CITY AND NOT ANYBODY OUTSIDE LIKE THE STATE TO IMPOSE THAT.

I DO AGREE WITH ABOLISHING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, HAVE FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT SHOULD BE MADE BY THE CITY.

AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH WEIGHING IN ON IT.

HE'S THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT.

AS FAR AS THE SECOND POINT, AND HE MADE A BIG POINT ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT GUNS, WHICH I THINK IS A RIDICULOUS THING TO SAY.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT MANDATORY MIN MILLION -- MINIMUMS AND IT'S THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT, I DON'T THINK -- AS FAR AS INCREASING THE PENALTY, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM IN THE CITY AND PARTICULARLY IF IT'S ARMED, I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY MAKE THE MAXIMUM AS LONG AS JUDGES DON'T HAVE THEIR HANDS DIED.

>> AND AS LONG AS KIM GARDNER PROSECUTED IT.

>> I THINK SHE'D HAVE NO CHOICE BECAUSE IF THEY COMMIT THE CRIME AND GET CAUGHT, THEY HAVE TO PROSECUTE THE PERSON.

>> SHE HAS A FUNNY WAY OF DECIDING WHAT -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> PUTTING A GUN TO MY HEAD AND TAKE MY CAR, I THINK THAT'S -- >> DON'T FOR GET THEY GOT THE GUY AT BALLPARK VILLAGE AND HE ADMITTED TO THE CRIME AND SHE DIDN'T PROSECUTE HIM.

>> YOU HAVE A POINT REAL WICK.

YOU COMMIT A KRIPE IN THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS WITH A GUN AND YOU GET TEN YEARS AND EVERYONE BRISTLED AND THE POOR THIS AND POOR THAT.

NOW YOU CAR JACK SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIFE, I THINK SAW COMMIT A CRIME WITH A GUN, YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM SIX TO SEVEN YEARS.

SOMETHING HAS TO STOP.

>> I DON'T THINK -- THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT KIM GARDNER ISN'T KILLING TO PROSECUTE CAR JACKERS.

>> WELL, THAT ONE CASE I BROUGHT UP.

>> THAT WAS IT -- >> I'M JUST SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE AND FAITH IN THE CIRCUIT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

>> THAT'S FINE, BUT I DON'T AGREE -- >> I THINK ANY PROSECUTOR HAS DISCRETION.

>> I THINK IN THAT CASE, THERE WERE EVIDENCE PROBLEMS.

>> THERE'S NO DOUBT THE HIGHER THE MANDATORY SENTENCE, THE MORE RELUCTANT THE JUDGES AND PROSECUTORS WILL BE GOING AFTER THE GRAY AREA CASES.

>> NOT IF THE LEGISLATURE TAKES IT OUT OF THE JUDGE'S HAND.

>> WE HAVE TO GO TO THE OLD MAIL BAG AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE PROGRAM LAST WEEK, STARTING WITH J.B.

BURNS.

INSTEAD OF STRANDING PEOPLE IN THE HYPERTUBES, CONSIDER A BULLET TRAIN ST.

LOUIS TO KANSAS CITY AND IT COULD HAUL FREIGHT.

AS A MECHANIC CONSOLIDATE -- MECHANICAL ENGINEER THAT LOVES INNO VACATION, I FEAR GETTING STUCK IN A TUBE IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC JAM OR STALL.

THEY SHOULD CONNECT THE HYPERLOOP TO THE DELMAR TROLLEY AND EXTEND THE TROLLEY DOWN TO THE NEW FERRIS WHEEL DOWNTOWN.

CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO SPEND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY.

THAT FROM BOB WILSON OF ST.

LOUIS, MISSOURI.

YOU CAN ALWAYS WRITE IT CARE OF KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST.

LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.

LOVE TO GET THOSE EMAILS, LETTERS@KETC.ORG AND DON'T FORGET THE TWEETS, #DONNYBROOKSTL.

AND YOU CAN ALSO LISTEN TO US ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST, APPLE, SPOTIFY, GOOGLE PLAY OR TUNE-IN.

IRONICALLY ON THANKSGIVING, WHICH CELEBRATES TURKEY, WE WILL NOT BE WITH YOU, BUT WE WILL BE BACK IN WOULD WEEKS SO HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING.

WE WISH YOU THE BEST WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BUT DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL BECAUSE IN JUST A MOMENT, WE HAVE YOUR TURN.

RAY HARTMANN AND ALVIN REID WILL BE TAKING YOUR PHONE CALLS AND READING YOUR TWEETS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

GO BLUES.

>> HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

>> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE MEMBERS OF THE NINE NETWORK.

>> HEY, I ALREADY KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY STARTED COOKING FOR NEXT THURSDAY, THANKSGIVING.

WE WON'T BE HERE, BUT ENJOY THAT DINNER BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ENJOY MINE.

RAY HARTMANN, ALVIN REID ON YOUR TURN.

LET'S START WITH DAVE IN DEFIANCE.

HI, DAVE.

>> Caller: GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING.

THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> Caller: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR SO ABOUT THE GAY MAN WHO WAS PASSED UP 23 TIMES AND GOT A $23 MILLION SETTLEMENT.

>> 20 MILLION.

>> Caller: OKAY.

MY QUESTION IS, OF THOSE 23 TIMES, WAS HE THE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THAT POSITION?

ISN'T IT A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMETIMES OF THOSE 23 TIMES PASSED OVER, THAT SOMEBODY COULD HAVE BEEN MORE QUALIFIED FOR THAT JOB?

>> I THINK THAT THEY ADDED IT UP IN PARTICULAR AND PROBABLY DIDN'T COUNT THE TIMES BECAUSE I'M SURE HE WAS UP FOR PROMOTION WHEN HE HAD BEEN AN OFFICER FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS, BUT AFTER A TIME, THERE COMES A TIME WHERE THERE'S JUST NO WAY OF EXPLAINING IT.

>> AND HE WAS A VERY GOOD OFFICER.

HE STARTED HIS CAREER PULLING OUT -- SAVING SOMEBODY'S LIFE, PULLING THEM OUT OF A, RATHER HEROICALLY, OUT OF A BURNING CAR AND A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER HE GOT A MEDAL OF VALOR FOR THAT.

HE GOT AWARD FOR SAVING ANOTHER WOMAN WITH A HEIMLICH MANEUVER AND THE JURY OBVIOUSLY FELT HE WAS DESERVING OF THE VERDICT.

YOU KNOW, MY GUESS IS, I THINK WE ALL AGREE, IT WILL END UP AT A NUMBER SMALLER THAN THAT, BUT HE WAS -- HE IS, I GUESS -- >> PROVED HIS CASE.

>> HE WON HIS CASE AND HE WAS REALLY A GREAT COP.

>> THANK YOU, DAVE.

>> THANKS FOR THE CALL.

LET'S GO TO CARRIE FROM DOGTOWN.

HI, CARRIE.

>> Caller: HI.

I WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE FREE HOLDERS AND THE INTER- -- OH, I'M FORGETTING THE TITLE OF THE COMMITTEE, THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.

>> YEAH, WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

GO AHEAD.

>> INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.

>> Caller: OKAY, I'M FORGETTING THE TITLE AND I SHOULDN'T, BUT THAT SAM MOORE IS THE CHAIR AND SHARON TYUS IS THE ASSISTANT CHAIR.

THESE ARE TWO WELL-SEASONED ALDER PEOPLE WHO HAVE MY RESPECT AND ADMIRATION BECAUSE THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND ALVIN, PARTICULARLY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT SAM BEING REMOVED FROM THAT BOARD, SAM IS THE ALDER OF THE FOURTH WARD, WHICH IS THE POOREST PART OF ST.

LOUIS CITY.

WHEN I HEARD AND ACTUALLY I SAW IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA HIS COMMENT ABOUT CHOP SUEY, I DIDN'T SEE IT AS A SLUR.

I SAW IT AS HIM STATING A FACT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF EATING ESTABLISHMENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEY'RE VERY POPULAR AND HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH.

>> OKAY.

AND THAT MAY BE SO, CARRIE, BUT IN A WHITE ALDERMAN SAID THE ONLY BLACK PEOPLE I SAY WORK AT A FRIED CHICKEN PLACE AND THEN NEED THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD BE INSULTED, SO U THINK SAM NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT THAT COMMENT WAS INSULTING.

I KNOW HOW YOU MIGHT FEEL BIT, BUT I WOULD BE INSULT IS IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT.

>>.

>> Caller: AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO THE SENSITIVITIES.

HE WAS STATING THE FACT AS THAT THE ASIANS DON'T LIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE.

FOR THE BOSNIANS, I CAN RECALL A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THEY WERE IN THE 22nd WARD AND RIGHTLY SO, HAVING COME OVER HERE, HAVING EXPERIENCED WAR FIRST HAND IN THEIR OWN FRONT YARD, COMPLAINED ABOUT THE GUNFIRE AND ABOUT ROACHES AND SO ON, AND I FELT A GREAT DEAL OF EMPATHY FOR THEM IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING.

BOSNIANS ARE PRETTY PREVALENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN.

I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE FREEHOLDERS IS TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE AND I UNDERSTAND THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE, PROTESTING THAT THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN WAS NOT BEING REPRESENTED.

>> AND WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY ABOUT THAT.

>> THANK YOU, CARRIE.

>> THANKS FOR THE CALL, THOUGH.

AND I AGREE THAT THAT REMARK WAS TASTELESS.

I DON'T KNOW -- >> RIGHT, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY.

>> AND I THINK THAT -- I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THE IDEA OF HAVING UNDERREPRESENTED THE NORTH -- THE TRUE NORTH SIDE -- >> WAS A MISTAKE.

>> AND FRANKLY, WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

IF DONE, I THINK WE'D FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT'S OVER.

I HOPE THEY MOVE FORWARD.

AS I SAY, MY VOTE WAS FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE TO BE MORE PREVALENT AND I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE AGE OF THE MOST RECENT ONES, BUT WE APPRECIATE THE CALL, CARRIE.

>> RON IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

RON, TURN YOUR TV DOWN.

>> Caller: HELLO.

>> TURN YOUR TV DOWN.

>> Caller: I JUST TURNED IT OFF.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN IT OFF.

>> Caller: WELL, I MEAN I JUST TURN THE VOLUME OFF.

WHERE YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT -- YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT CARJACKING AND THE SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S COMMITTED WITH A GUN, THEY NEED 25 YEARS TO LIFE.

>> WELL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN AND I CAN LIVE WITH TEN.

OKAY?

I JUST SAID SIX OR SEVEN IN THAT IF THERE WERE -- IF YOU WANTED TO SET A MANDATORY SENTENCE THAT WAS LESS THAN TEN, I WOULD SAY SIX OR SEVEN, BUT TEN IS FINE WITH ME.

>> Caller: I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD CURB IT AT THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AS SCARED OF THAT, BUT 25 YEARS BEFORE PAROLE, THEY HAD BE SCARED OF THAT.

>> WELL, THERE'S ONLY -- I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT YOU CAN MURDER SOMEBODY AND GET LESS THAN 25 YEARS, SO YOU CAN'T SAY -- I UNDERSTAND YOU'LL PROBABLY SAY IF YOU MURDER SOMEBODY, YOU SHOULD GET 75 YEARS TO LIFE, BUT RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT'S SET UP, YOU WOULD BE SENTENCING PEOPLE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME FOR CARJACKING SOMEONE THAN YOU WOULD FOR KILLING SOMEONE -- >> Caller: ONLY WITH A GUN.

ONLY CAR JACKING WITH A GUN.

>> WELL, IF I SHOOT SOMEBODY WITH A GUN, I WOULD PROBABLY GET LESS THAN 25 YEARS, SO YOU CAN'T SENTENCE SOMEBODY FOR THAT IF THEY WOULD GET LESS FOR KILLING SOMEBODY.

>> Caller: WELL, THEN, THE THING IS, IF -- WITH THE KILLING SOMEBODY, THAT OUGHT TO BE A MANDATORY DEATH SENTENCE.

>> I HEAR YOU, MAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> YOU KNOW, MY OWN VIEW IS THAT WE GOT TO TRUST THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO DECIDE PENALTIES.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKING PEOPLE PAY FOR CARJACKING.

THE EXAMPLE IS IF THERE'S TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AND ONE RING LEADER AND -- THERE'S ALL KINDS OF VARIABLES INVOLVED IN SENTENCING.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS FOR DOING ANYTHING BUT CRACKING DOWN ON IT.

I THINK YOU DOT TO TRUST THE JUDGES AND -- GOT TO TRUST THE JUDGES AND THE JURY IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

IT WAS SUCH DISASTER WITH THE THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT STUFF.

LET'S GO TO CARLA FROM FERGUSON.

HOW YOU DOING?

>> Caller: I'M DOING GOOD.

I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CAR JACKINGS.

FORTUNATELY I'VE NEVER SUFFERED ONE, BUT AS WE KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT?

SOONER OR LATER I HAVE TO BUY A NEW CAR AND I'LL BE STUCK WITH TECHNOLOGY THAT MAKES ME VULNERABLE.

ONCE A DAY, THAT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF MORE TIME IS THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT DOESN'T REALLY DETER CRIME, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF, LIKE, ONE-ON-ONE CRIME RIGHT NOW, JUST IN GENERAL.

AND THAT'S GOT TO STOP AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COURTS IS HOW WE GET THERE.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX AND MAYBE PUT OUT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF YOU DO THIS, YOU CAN TAKE LIFE.

DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT CAR THAT BAD?

IS IT THAT IMPORTANT FOR THAT JOYRIDE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

THANK YOU.

WE GOT SOME TWEETS, RAY?

>> EMORY COX 4, WHY DID THE UNION AGREE TO THE POTENTIAL ELIMINATION OF GM JOBS?

IS THERE MORE TO THIS STORY?

GOOD QUESTION.

>> GREG RIGGINS, THE SPANISH PAVILION, THE REPLICA OF THE SANTA MARIA, THE ADMIRAL AT THE ST.

LOUIS CENTER WILL ALL RETURN BEFORE THE NFL RETURN TO THE CITY OF ST.

LOUIS.

>> LET'S GO TO KENSKI, 5 MINIMUM 25 YEARS FOR ANY CRIME WITH GUNS, 50 YEARS FOR ARMED TARGET.

SEND YOUR TWEETS TO #DONNYBROOKSTL, AND LET'S GO TO LORI FROM ST.

LOUIS.

HI, LORI.

>> Caller: HI.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, WE CAN.

>> Caller: OKAY, I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ALVIN'S COMMENT ABOUT THE ASIAN REMARK THAT WAS MADE.

I AGREE WITH HIM 100% AND HONESTLY, ALVIN, IF YOU LIVED IN THE CITY, I'D VOTE FOR YOU FOR MAYOR.

I THINK YOU'D MAKE A WONDERFUL PLAYER.

>> YOU'RE IN TROUBLE NOW.

>> I THINK HE COULD BE MAYOR OF KIRKWOOD AND ST.

LOUIS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> I'D BE SUPER MAYOR.

>> I'M TRYING TO BE HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER IN KIRKWOOD.

>> I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT, LORI, BUT I HAVE NO ASPIRATION AND IT WOULD ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE PROBABLY, BUT THANK YOU.

>> Caller: WELL, OKAY.

>> LET'S GO TO JESSICA IN ST.

LOUIS.

HI, JESSICA.

>> Caller: HI.

I'M GLAD TO GET ON AND THIS IS A GREAT SHOW.

I MIGHT HAVE MY TOPICS MIXED UP, BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF REPRESENTATION WITH THE LANDHOLDERS FOR THE PEOPLE IN NORTH ST.

LOUIS CITY VERSUS THE CITY RESIDENCY RULE.

YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND IS A CITY FIREMAN, WE LIVED NO NORTH ST.

LOUIS 44 YEARS, WE LOVE IT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT IS LACK OF REPRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE MAJOR EVENTS THAT HAPPEN HERE IN THE CITY.

SOME OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS OR THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THE NEWS, WE DON'T SEE OURSELVES ALWAYS IN THAT PICTURE.

AND SO I'M JUST THINKING THAT WITH SMALL REPRESENTATION FROM NORTH CITY, THEN TO PERHAPS SAY, TO GET A GOOD JOB, A SO-CALLED GOOD JOB, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY, THEN IT'S ALMOST TELLING AN EMPLOYEE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'LL GIVE YOU A JOB, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SAME BENEFITS OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE REGION.

MAYBE THEY'VE WRONG.

>> OKAY, BUT NO, YOU'RE ALL RIGHT.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT -- I WAS GOING TO ASK, IF FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE, DIDN'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY, I'M WAITING TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WILL MOVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL.

I DON'T MEAN HALF OR ANYTHING, BUT I JUST THINK A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL MOVE.

>> I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE BEST ANSWER WAS TO REMOVE THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, BUT GIVE AN INCENTIVE, A BONUS, SOME OTHER -- >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

>> -- SOME OTHER INCENTIVE ON A POSITIVE BASIS TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY AND EFFECTIVELY HAVE A TWO-TIERED SYSTEM OR AT LEAST REASON, AGAIN, IT COULD BE AN ANNUAL BONUS, WOULD HAVE IT WOULD BE THAT WOIN KRENTIVE VIZE PEOPLE TO -- WOULD INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY RATHER THAN MAKE THEM LIVE IN THE CITY.

WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY STRUCTURALLY IS A CITY THAT USED TO HAVE 800,000 PEOPLE AND NOW IT'S 300.

SOME OF THE PARAMETERS AND RULES WOULD CHANGE, AND THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE IN THE CITY, NO MATTER WHAT WE GET, DO AMAZING WORK.

ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> -- AND WE SHOULD PRESHT THEM AND MAKE IT -- APPRECIATE THEM AND MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.

>> WE BOTH THINK THERE WON'T BE A REQUIREMENT.

>> LET'S GO TO JEFFERSON CITY FROM ST.

LOUIS.

THAT WAS JESSICA.

KEVIN.

>> Caller: THIS IS KEVIN FROM MANCHESTER.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THE $20 MILLION REWARD TO THE POLICE OFFICER WHO CLAIMS HE WAS BYPASSED FOR CERTAIN PROMOTIONS.

THAT HAPPENED IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY PROBABLY, A MIM MIMY -- OH MY GOD, MILLIONS OF TIMES.

WHY DOES A COUNTY RESIDENT HAVE TO BEAR SOME OF THAT, HONESTLY, AND NUMBER TWO, IT COULD BE SPENT ON POLICE SALARIES OR BETTER POLICE TECHNOLOGY OR BETTER POLICE TRAINING, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.

IT JUST DOESN'T -- I CAN'T MAKE IT WORK IN MY MIND.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

>> I WOULD SAY THIS.

KEVIN, IF YOU GO AND LOOK, I'M SURE THE CITY OF MANCHESTER HAS BEEN SUED, SOMEBODY SLIPPED OR ICE OR SOMETHING, GOT SUED AND EITHER SETTLED OR LOST IN COURT AND YOU ARE A CITY TAXPAYER AND THAT FALLS ON YOU BECAUSE IT COMES FROM A CITY INSURANCE FUND OR SOME FUND AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

IT WAS A PUBLIC ENTITY, THE ST.

LOUIS COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS NOT A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

IT WAS A PUBLIC ENTITY THAT GOT SUED AND LOST AND LIKE I SAID, ST.

LOUIS COUNTY HAS PROBABLY COUNTLESS LAWSUITS FILED AGAINST IT AND EVERY TIME THEY LOSE, THAT'S -- THE RESIDENTS OF ST.

LOUIS ARE PAYING THAT BILL.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE EXPLANATION.

A PUBLIC ENTITY WAS JUDGED TO DO WRONG, NOT BY YOU OR I, BUT A JURY OF OUR PEERS AND THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY.

>> KEVIN, LET ME ADD SOMETHING.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE $20 MILLION, OKAY?

UNDER STATE SO-CALLED TORT REFORM LAWS THAT WERE PASSED SOME TIME AGO, THE 17 MILLION OF THAT WAS PUNITIVE DAMAGES AND BY LAW, HALF OF THAT GOES TO A STATE FUND.

>> RIGHT.

>> AND VERY FEW TIMES DO THE LAWYERS LET IT GET TO THAT POINT BECAUSE $8.5 MILLION, THAT'S THE BEGINNING POINT WHEN THE LAWYERS TALK ABOUT A SETTLEMENT BECAUSE NOBODY IS GETTING THAT, OKAY?

SO -- AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, NOT MANY CASES GO TO THAT POINT.

IT'S GOING TO BE FAR LESS THAN $20 MILLION, AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THURNS THAT COVERS IT AS WELL.

IT WAS THE JURY.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION, AND I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH THE JURY, THAT MR.

WILDHABER WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST RATHER THAN MALICIOUSLY BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT WAS THE JURY VERDICT.

THAT'S OUR SYSTEM, BUT IT WILL BE A LOT LESS THAN THAT AND MY GUESS, IF I HAD TO GUESS, I'M THINKING THEY'LL SETTLE FOR A FEW MILLION DOLLARS.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE, BUT I WOULD THINK IT WILL BE A LOT LESS THAN THAT.

>> AND ONE MORE THOUGHT, KEVIN.

IF YOU WANT TO BE MAD AT SOMEBODY, BE MAD AT THE COUNTY ITSELF BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE SETTLED THIS FOR $850,000 AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO.

>> THAT WAS A REALLY QUESTIONABLE JUDGMENT.

WE APPRECIATE THE CALL, KEVIN.

>> DALE IN ST.

LOUIS COUNTY.

HI, DALE.

>> Caller: YES.

>> HELLO.

>> Caller: HELLO.

LISTEN, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS WHY DON'T THEY -- THE CITY AND THE COUNTY DO AWAY WITH THIS JUVENILE COURT SYSTEM BECAUSE THESE KIDS ARE GOING AROUND KILLING PEOPLE WITH GUNS AND CAR JACKINGS AND ALL THAT, AND THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED -- TREATED AS ADULTS.

>> OKAY, WELL, YOU DON'T GET RID OF THE JUVENILE SYSTEM.

YOU JUST CHARGE PEOPLE AS ADULTS AND THAT'S WHAT GOES ON NOW.

JUVENILE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT ARE JUVENILE THAT SHOULDN'T STICK WITH THEM THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CAR JACKINGS AND MURDER AND ALL THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY THE JUVENILE SYSTEM EXISTS.

>> THERE ARE PLENTY OF TEENAGERS WHO, WHEN THEY COMMIT PARTICULARLY VIOLENT CRIMES, ARE FACT TREATED AS ADULTS AS THEY SHOULD BE, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF YOUNG -- KID S YOUNG AS 11 AND 12 AND 13 THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, AND I THINK WE STRONGLY NEED, AND I THINK WE HAVE VERY GOOD JUVENILE, BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY, WE HAVE REALLY GOOD JUVENILE SYSTEMS.

>> ALSO, IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN A VERY VIOLENT CRIME WHEN YOU'RE 15 YEARS OLD, YOU'RE TRAFRD TO ADULT.

IT DINL -- TRANSFERRED TO ADULT.

IT ISN'T LIKE WHEN YOU TURN 18, THEY TURN YOU BACK OUT ON THE STREET.

>> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.

WE APPRECIATE THE CALL.

ROBERT FROM BRIDGETON.

HI, ROBERT, WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND?

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING.

YEAH, AS FAR AS NORTH ST.

LOUIS IS CONCERNED, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR -- IF YOU VISIT A LOT OF MAJOR CITIES, YOU'LL SEE A MOBILE HOME COMPLEX, MAJOR MOBILE HOME COMPLEX, AND I THINK ST.

LOUIS, NORTH ST.

LOUIS IS FINE FOR THAT.

>> OKAY, ROBERT, JUST ON POINT, YOU THINK SAM MOORE WAS INNOCENT KIND OF IN WHAT HE SAID OR DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE OUT OF HAND?

>> Caller: WELL, IT WAS SAID TO SAY IT'S TRUE, BUT IT IS OFF COLOR.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

JEFFREY, BACK TO JEFFERSON COUNTY.

HOW DO YOU DOING?

JERRY, I'M SORRY.

>> JERRY, HOW YOU DOING?

>> Caller: DOING FINE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU THINK THE SAME GROUP OF LAWYERS THAT DREW THIS AGREEMENT UP FOR GENERAL MOTORS COULD GET THAT MONEY AND JUST WALK AWAY IF THEY WANT OR ONLY HAVE TO KEEP 2,000, DO YOU THINK THAT'S THE SAME ONES THAT DREW UP THE CONTRACT FOR THE RAMS?

>> I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT.

I WAS GOING TO LET YOU FINISH, BUT I THOUGHT, I KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO SAY.

>> IN FAIRNESS, WE'RE PRETTY -- A LOT OF TIMES ON DONNYBROOK, THESE ISSUES COME UP.

WE OBVIOUSLY AREN'T LAWYERS, WE HAVEN'T READ THE FINE PRINT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS.

THE GENERAL CONCEPT THAT THE RESULT COULD BE A SHARP REDUCTION OF JOBS AFTER THEY WERE GIVEN 50 MILLION INCENTIVES IS TROUBLING, BUT AS I SAID, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW -- I SUSPECT IN ALL STATES IT'S DIFFERENT AND, YOU KNOW -- BILL HAD AN INTERESTING POINT.

YOU GOT TO PLAY THE GAME, YOU GOT TO PLAY THE GAME.

BUT IT SURE DOESN'T LOOK GOOD RIGHT NOW.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT, JERRY.

>> RIGHT AND WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO POINT THIS OUT TOO.

IN THE MIDST OF ALL, THIS THEY WERE ON STRIKE.

YOU HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE STRIKING THAT HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A JOB.

IT JUST -- IT'S JUST WILD HOW THAT WORKED OUT.

>> THEY PROBABLY COULD ARGUE THAT THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE DYNAMICS.

>> PROBABLY, SO BUT THE STATE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO READY TO JUST GIVE THEM $50 MILLION WITH ALL THAT POSSIBLE.

>> GOOD POINT.

LET'S GO TO WILLIAM FROM SOUTH COUNTY.

HI, WILLIAM.

>> Caller: GOOD EVENING, GUYS.

THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL.

>> SURE.

>> Caller: A COUPLE QUICK POINTS.

I THOUGHT MAYBE ALVIN FOR MAYOR, THAT WAS AN INTRIGUING -- MAYBE YOU GUYS COULD BE CO-MAYORS OF ST.

LOUIS.

YOU'D REALLY LOVE THAT, WOULDN'T YOU?

>> IT'S ALL HIS.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, NOBODY EVER RECOMMENDS ME FOR ANY OF THIS, BUT THAT'S ALL GOOD.

>> Caller: WELL, I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THE CALLER FROM MANCHESTER WHO HAD THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT FOR THE POLICE OFFICER, SINCE YOU WERE TOO MODEST TO TOUT YOUR WRITINGS, MR.

HARTMANN, THAT THIS GUY COULD GOOGLE UP OR FILE A -- GET ONLINE AT RFT AND READ RAY'S WHAT WERE THEY THINKING ARTICLE CONCERNING THAT WHOLE MATTER.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Caller: AND THAT SHOULD CLEAR UP A LOT FOR HIM AND HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

>> I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU, TOO, WILLIAM.

THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS.

>> HE IS RIGHT, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE THAT PRETTY MUCH LAID IT OUT, LIKE WHAT WERE YOU THINKING.

REGARDLESS OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE OFFICER, LIFESTYLE, ALL THAT, THAT WAS JUST A BUSINESS DECISION THAT NEED BE MADE AND THEY BLEW THAT.

>> AND I DO AGREE WITH MOST OF MYSELF.

WHO'S NEXT?

>> THAT'S DAVID IN AFFTON.

HI, DAVID.

>> Caller: HEY, HOW YOU DOING TONIGHT?

>> JUST FINE.

HOW ABOUT YOURSELF?

>> Caller: I'M DOING WELL, THANKS.

I GUESS I WANT TO PILE ON WITH THE -- ABOUT THE COP.

HE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL COP.

HE'S STILL A COP.

NOT ONLY WAS HE PASSED OVER, INSTEAD OF THEM ALLOWING HIM TO LIVE NEAR WHERE HE WORKS, THEY TRANSFERRED HIM 20 MILES AWAY.

THAT'S JUST PLAIN MEAN.

>> YES.

>> Caller: SO IF ANYBODY IS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THEIR HEAD AROUND WHY THE VERDICT WENT THAT WAY, MAYBE THAT MIGHT HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU HAD CONTRADICTORY SYSTEM ON THE STAND.

THAT JUST -- COME ON NOW.

>> THAT WAS -- IT WAS -- THEY HAD DEPOSITIONS FROM THE POLICE CHIEF IN WHICH HE BASICALLY ADMITTED, WHEN THEY SAID -- I THINK IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE WAS SUING, THAT IS A PROBLEM.

IT IS NOW KIND OF THING.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY TOOK THAT TO TRIAL.

I ALSO CAN'T BELIEVE WE DIDN'T GET INVITED TO THE VICTORY PARTY.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING.

>> I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO THANKS FOR THE CALL.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> ANOTHER DAVID FROM OLIVETTE.

HI, DAVID.

COME ON, DAVID.

YOU THERE?

>> Caller: I'M HERE.

>> TURN YOUR TV DOWN, MY MAN.

>> WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, DAVID?

>> Caller: I GOT IT DOWN.

>> THERE WE GO.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>> Caller: I'D LIKE TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT DONNYBROOK OR KETC WOULD EVER CONSIDER INVITING LYDA KREWSON AND SAM PAGE TO HAVE A JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE?

>> YOU KNOW, WE DO THINGS IN THE POLITICAL SEASON LIKE DEBATES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE REALLY DON'T DO THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT THEY'RE WELCOME TO CALL YOUR TURN AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME.

BUT THANK YOU, DAVID.

>> APPRECIATE THE CALL.

LET'S GO TO LOUISE IN GREEN -- GREEN COUNTY?

>> Caller: YES, THIS IS LOUISE IN GREEN COUNTY.

REALLY ENJOY YOUR SHOW, WATCH IT EVERY WEEK.

YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Caller: I HEARD AN INTERESTING COMMENT ON KMOX.

I'M SURE THAT'S THE STATION I WAS LISTENING TO.

A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THERE ARE 96,000 LICENSED LAWYERS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS AND WHEN THEY ASK HOW MANY LICENSED LAWYERS THERE WERE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI, IT WAS 24,000 IF I HEARD IT CORRECTLY.

>> OKAY.

>> Caller: NOW, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOME OF THE THING WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT WITH THE DIFFERENT LAWSUITS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, 96,000 COMPARED TO A NEIGHBORING STATE OF 24,000.

>> IN FAIRNESS, ILLINOIS HAS MORE PEOPLE.

>> ILLINOIS HAS DOUBLE OUR POPULATION.

>> LOUISE, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU'RE SETTING US UP FOR A LAWYER JOKE.

>> Caller: NO, NO, I JUST FOUND THAT INTERESTING.

I JUST THOUGHT MY GOD, I MEAN, THAT MANY MORE AND I REALIZED WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, CHICAGO AND MUCH MORE POPULATION AND THAT, BUT WOW, THAT'S QUITE A -- >> LOUISE, ARE YOU IN GREENVILLE?

>> Caller: NO, IN GREEN COUNTY, ILLINOIS.

>> OKAY.

I THOUGHT GREEN -- I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE GREENVILLE WAS.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CALL.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> Caller: HEY, THANKS A LOT.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANKS SO MUCH.

>> I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A LAWYER YOKE JOKE IN THAT, BUT WE'RE BOTTOM FEEDERS, SO WHO ARE WE TO DO THAT?

>> FRAZIER IN CENTERVILLE.

HI, FRAZIER.

>> Caller: HEY, HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

>> JUST FINE.

>> Caller: I WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR YOU GUYS, YOU DO A REALLY GOOD SHOW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Caller: GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

REGARDING THIS FOOTBALL INCIDENT WITH THE PLAYER GETTING HIT IN THE HEAD WITH THE HELMET, WOULDN'T HE BE ELIGIBLE TO BE CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED ATTEMPTED MURDER?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, IT'S POSSIBLE, YES.

>> NOT ATTEMPTED MURDER, I DON'T THINK.

>> NO, BUT HE COULD BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME.

>> HE COULD PROBABLY BE CHARGED WITH ASSAULT, BUT IN GENERAL, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT SPORTING EVENTS.

>> ON THE FIELD, IT WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY.

>> WHAT ELSE YOU GOT, FRAZIER?

WE GOT TO GO?

>> Caller: OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE VOTER SITUATION AND WE SEEMED TO BE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF RUSSIA -- >> FRAZIER, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

SANDRA, REAL QUICK.

WE GO ABOUT TEN SECONDS.

YOU THERE?

SANDRA GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE -- >> I THINK WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

WE WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY OUT THERE A VERY, VERY HAPPY AND SAFE AND WARM THANKSGIVING.

>> HAVE A NICE THANKSGIVING!

>> WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS.