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Persevere
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The story of the Nakasones, separated during the Battle of Okinawa.
The story of the Nakasones, separated during the Battle of Okinawa.
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Persevere
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The story of the Nakasones, separated during the Battle of Okinawa.
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Dan Nakasone: My auntie Sarah told me this story, story of my grandmother Kamei.
They could hear her crying herself to sleep for nights on end, and in the morning she will be touching Junichiʻs old school uniform.
You know that image is never going to leave my mind, you know... "Tinsagu nu Hana," Okinawan children’s song: In 1930, my great grandfather, Bunchu Nakasone came from Aza Yogi Okinawa to visit his only child, my my great grand, my grandfather, Jiro.
And being that, you know, he had no children, when he left, he took the two youngest children with him, my auntie Yoshino, who was 5, and Junichi, who was who was 3 years old, you know, he had a farm.
He needed my uncle and auntie to help on the farm.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: From what I heard from sisters and brothers and sisters, that because Junichi was so young, there, they had to have someone else accompany him, and between the siblings that were there at the time, the best choice was our mom.
She was the one nearest in age to him.
The other,her brother and sister were much older, pretty much established, so it would be difficult to transplant them from Hawaiʻi to Okinawa to help their grandparents.
Dan Nakasone: You know, the story I heard was that Junichi was excited, actually, because he was going to sail on a big ship for my auntie Yoshino, you know, I cannot even imagine what was going through her mind.
You know, leaving her family behind.
Sharon Yamasaki/Daughter of Yoshino: Oh, my mom was very quiet and sweet.
She just did, you know, whatever people asked her to do, she worked very hard.
I remember her saying that she worked and gathered potatoes, sweet potatoes, up on the hill when she, before she went to school.
And then she, you know, cleaned up the house and everything, and then went to school.
And I remember her saying that when she was in elementary school, she brought Junichi to school to sit by her, because I think he was too young to, I guess, protect him.
Dan Nakasone: Junichi, he excelled as a student, and he was able to pass the entrance exam to a prestigious school called Kenritsu Daiichi Chugakko was a top academic school.
You know, you know, Daiichi is number one.
For Junichi, being that my great grandfather was a farmer, going to the school was the was an opportunity of a lifetime.
So, you know, from what I understood that, you know, he studied, he just was studying, and Yoshino was always there caring for him.
I think from the day they left, she was taking care of Junichi.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: Yes, my mom had a strong sense of duty and responsibility to take care of her younger brother, and she wanted him to do well in school.
So she would save some kerosene in a little metal container, she said, and she would take that, she would walk a long distance whenever she could, to take that kerosene over to her brother so that he could study at night.
And of course, she would have to take that same trek back home.
Dan Nakasone: You know, Junichiʻs dream was to become a school teacher.
And back then, teachers, you know, it was like, was like a sacred profession that that was his career choice.
Music: Dan Nakasone: On March 24, 1945 the school sent him home to get a release form signed.
To be conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Army, he needed to have this release signed by his grandparents.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: Junichi had come to them to say that he needed their approval or signature to join the Japanese Army.
And so my mom said that he appeared like he didn't really want to go, but she felt it was the responsible thing to do, that she wanted him to, you know, go.
So he they did, sign the papers, and he went off to join the Army.
Dan Nakasone: That day, the U.S. planes, was dropping bombs.
So, so when Junichi got there to Aza Yogi, he took my great grandparents, his sister, Yoshino, to a cave up a ridge, not too far from their home to, you know, relative safety, because they know they were dropping bombs that day.
So the following day after graduation, he was, Junichi was conscripted into what was called the Iron Blood Corps for the Emperor.
He was 18 years old.
The battle started on April 1, 1945 and it ended on June 22, 1945 and Junichi never came home.
Music: Dan Nakasone: My great grandparents, Bunchu and Kamado Nakasone, along with Yoshino and some other people from the village, were hiding in the cave for over three months.
They heard all the propaganda from the Japanese Army, Japanese soldiers saying that, you know, the men are going to be butchered and the women are going to be raped.
Karen Irie/Daughter of Yoshino: But she did mention being trained to use a bamboo like a sword if, in case she gets captured.
But she's not that type, so she wouldn't fight somebody else or to kill.
Yeah.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: She really never mentioned the life in there, but seeing that the caves were primarily there for to store the ashes of the ancestors, it was not somewhere where there was a lot of comfort.
It was rather small, dark.
Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: It must have been a very scary time for them to leave the cave just to get things that they needed to survive in there for several months.
It must have been very difficult.
Dan Nakasone: That time, was they was, the army called it the mop up phase of the battle.
So they knew that Japanese soldiers and civilians were hiding in caves.
So, if, after several attempts of trying to call the people out, and if they did not come out, they'd either would flame throwe the cave, or they would explosive, with explosives, they would seal the cave.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: She was hiding in the cave.
She called it the haka, which was the tomb, I guess, and she hid in the back because, of course, she was told that those bad things would happen.
And she sent her, I mean, the grandparents went out, and while the grandparents were out, grandma got a little concerned and said, Hey, my granddaughter is still in there.
So they persuaded her to come out.
And the people who actually were there to escort them out were Japanese Americans.
Dan Nakasone: And I heard the story from Auntie Yoshino herself.
She said that, you know, the American soldiers actually treated them well.
They provided them with food and water and shelter, far from what the Japanese you know, soldiers told them.
Dan Nakasone: So my grandmother in Wahiawā wanted to bring Yoshino home.
My uncle Edwin, who is my grandmother's sister's son, was serving in the MIS.
He was stationed in Yokohama, Tokyo, and she put in a request for him to go and find Yoshino.
Col. Edwin Masanobu Nakasone/U.S.
Army, retired: Said to me, we have a child whose name is Yoshino, and she is now located with her grandparents in Okinawa, Japan.
I said I would really like to have her come back to Hawaiʻi, because she's she's of American citizenship, and Japan is not a place for her to grow up forever.
1947 I got down there, February of ʻ47.
The conditions were tough because, as I said, bombing and everything else, but they still had, you know, it was a village, Aza Yogi, it was a little village there.
I went down and got a Jeep, and with the Jeep, I got to where her address was, and got, got her, and then brought her to, I think it was the Civil Affairs language area, and that was in Naha.
And there we registered her as a American citizen, born in Hawaiʻi, and that I would attest the fact that she was American, and this is all fine, and so no longer than about six months later, she was on the ship and going back to Hawaiʻi.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: I think it was very fortunate that he was where he was, in his position, in the MIS and in the Army.
Maybe a fortunate thing is that mom had a birthmark on her nose that was a very telltale sign that confirmation that she was Yoshino Nakasone.
Dan Nakasone: According to Uncle Edwin, she was looking forward...she wanted to come back home to family, her parents.
When she left, she only had two siblings, so two oldest, which was my my dad Seiei, and my auntie Shi-chan.
She wanted to get home.
Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: The ship ride was very hard.
I'm not sure how long it was, but it was pretty long from what I imagined.
And then a lot of them were seasick on the boat, and it was very difficult to take that long ride back and but apparently she did have a friend that she met on the boat, which eventually that person also ended up on the Big Island.
Sharon Yamasaki/Daughter of Yoshino: Baban made arrangements for her to come back to Hawaiʻi and brought the Nakasone clan to the Honolulu Harbor.
I think it was February of 1948, and mom said she was so happy to see all her family and relatives at Honolulu Harbor greeting her.
Music: Dan Nakasone: You know, life wasn't easy for Yoshino.
You know she didn't speak English.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: English wasn't her primary language.
It was her second language.
So she did find several jobs, one of which was at the Crystal Cleaners in the Kemoʻo Farms area.
And then after that, she went to work for a family in St Louis Heights area, who she was hoping that she would learn English from.
So she was really, really invested in the idea that she should learn English, and so her part of her journey at that time was to be in places where she would have to speak English and learn it from others.
Dan Nakasone: Things turned for the better when she met Robert Toguchi, who became her husband.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: There was a temple called Jikoen Hongwanji, predecessor to the Hawaii Okinawa Center, where the Okinawans were able to meet and find support.
As it happens, my father's sister Haruko was married to Reverend Jikai Yamasato because of the connection of Jikoen with the Okinawan community, they were somehow got the connection from this other Okinawan organization in Wahiawā, to meet and eventually they got married.
My father.
The funny thing is, we always call him Seiyu, but on this island, it's Robert.
So Robert Seiyu Toguchi.
Dan Nakasone: They got married.
They moved to the Big Island, Pepeʻekeo, where he's where he's from.
They were able to raise five children.
And, you know, all the kids got college degrees.
So, you know, she was able to live a life that she deserved.
Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: What I remember about mom always hard working.
She was a stay at home mom.
So my dad was the breadwinner, so being that we had five children, she was able to keep us clothed.
We had nice clothes.
She would actually sold some of the clothes for us because she couldn't.
We couldn't afford to buy clothes, and then all of the meals were homemade.
You know, John always brings up this story about how she would be able to stretch this can of Spam to feed all of us, and even not even use the whole can of Spam, but, you know, just adding cabbage and other vegetables that she actually grew in the garden to help feed us and sustain us.
That's what I remember, very hard working and yeah, very happy.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: She liked Ikebana...poetry, Japanese poetry.
She liked music.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: She was also a very dedicated Buddhist and a member of the Honpa Hongwanji and member of the fujinkai, now known as the Buddhist Women's Association.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: These are bean bags.
It's a little different from what my mom used to like.
She used to sew her own and put the actual beans.
She could do tricks with them.
It's amazing, like with two hands and juggle.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: And I think growing up one time, I made her really mad.
I think in Okinawa, they do this pinch thing that is really sore when they really apply it.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: She loved birds, would sit in the kitchen drinking tea, look outside and watch the birds, and it's a daily routine she had.
But a quiet time.
She always had her own quiet time.
Music: Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: When my mom was living through the Battle of Okinawa, there was extensive bombing going on around around her in the area.
So when she moved to the Big Island to where we were living, it was basically a plantation town that had cane field all around it.
So every once in a while, these crop duster planes would fly over.
Sharon Yamasaki/Daughter of Yoshino: She said, You know, when she heard airplanes flying by, it scared her, because she thought she would be bombed.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: She remembered the bombers, the airplanes, and then that she mentioned, she also mentioned not wanting to watch any war movies on TV.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: And despite all that she went through, she didn't have negative things to say.
And throughout, I think, the time that she raised us, there was very, very rarely, if any time, that she spoke bad about any one situation, she always had a very positive attitude, which was just amazing.
Sharon Yamasaki/Daughter of Yoshino: The lessons that we can learn from Mom is that really don't let the bad things you know get to you, just pursue and be happy.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: Despite all the hardship and difficulties you may experience in life, there's less...you know, lessons to learn and learn from that.
Try not to let it make you a bad person or angry person, and rise above that and be positive.
And like Sharon said, move forward, because there's a lot to do in life.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: What I've learned from my mother is that we all should build resilience and the will to live.
Yeah... Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: That shows how how strong and brave she was, and I hope that is what was instilled in us also, and then that we can instill in our children.
Music: Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: She did mention her search for her brother.
She would go from village to village ask if they saw him.
Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: Yeah, she really wouldn't, you know, dwell on it a lot, but she would periodically say that she wonders what happened to him, and she did have some regret about sending him off.
John Toguchi/Son of Yoshino: Even my mom in her advanced stages of dementia, sometimes I visited her at Elaine's house, she would ask, Oh, who am I?
She would say that I'm her brother.
In that stage, she was still thinking about her brother.
Dan Nakasone: My grandmother would make bento, and my uncle George was around five years old.
I think at the time he would accompany her.
They would walk to a Japanese POW camp, which was outside the Schofield Barracks, not far from our house.
So she would make bento, and through the barbed wire fence, she would share food with the Japanese POW, and she would ask about Junichi.
And they did that a few times, I think you know, but each time they came up empty.
Music: Dan Nakasone: You know, his photo sat next to the butsudan in my grandparents house, Jiro and Kamei Nakasone in Wahiawā.
I always wondered who was this guy.
And, you know, he looked like he was in a Japanese school uniform, so, you know, but my family never spoke about him, you know, me being a young kid, I never thought anything after that.
So, in April of 2015, on the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Okinawa, I went to Okinawa as a producer for a national PBS series called Family Ingredients.
And about two weeks out, I posted a photo of Junichi on social media, you know, hoping to that I would get a lead.
And just so happened, Chizu Inoue, who was our consultant in Okinawa for that episode, replied immediately.
She recognized the emblem on Junichiʻs cap.
So she asked me, what school did he go to?
And I didn't know, but I said that he was in Shuri, and she knew already, because two of her daughters went to Shuri High.
And the school has a museum, and they had an archive with all the files of all the students that were lost during the battle.
So Chizu contacted her friend who works at the museum, and just so happened, Junichiʻs file was there.
Chizu arranged for me to meet with five of Junichiʻs schoolmates.
You know, when I got in front of the five students, I was like, I was excited to find out, to find Junichi story.
Junichi’s former schoolmates and Dan Nakasone’s consultant speaking in Japanese: Dan Nakasone: So I learned that Junichi was killed by American machine gun fire in a place called Komesu the day before the battle ended.
Hearing all this, you know, again, made me think of my Baban crying herself to sleep.
I also felt that, you know, his siblings needed to be there, not me, especially Yoshino.
So as I left that day, getting into the car, one of the schoolmates came up to me and he said, Now it's your responsibility to share Junichiʻs story.
Music: Dan Nakasone: So getting home, I was emotionally and physically exhausted, you know, but I invited my the surviving Junichiʻs siblings, along with some of my cousins and I produced a folder with all the information that I gathered on that trip.
The surviving siblings were my Uncle Satoru, my Auntie Sarah, my Auntie Sueno, and you know they were there with their their their spouses.
And Yoshinoʻs two daughters were there.
My Auntie Sarah's daughter were there.
Yoshino was there, but she had early stages of dementia, so she could so she didn't learn what happened to her, her brother.
After we were done, my uncle, Satoru came up to me, and he said, Baban now has closure.
Music: Event Host: Hello, welcome.
Karen Irie: Daughter of Yoshino: I’m Karen, the oldest.
General conversation as people greet each other: Dan Nakasone: Okay.
So you know, we're here interviewing my Toguchi cousins for this documentary, for this video, and when we're interviewing my cousin Alice, she said: Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: The people who actually were there to escort them out were Japanese Americans.
So they were American, but of Japanese ancestry.
And my mom really thinks that one of the men, Mr. Kaneshiro, who persuaded her and told her no, she wouldn't be harmed, that they would take good care of her.
She, my mom always thought that he was someone who lived in Maukaloa (street), Pepeʻekeo, where she ended up going after she got married.
Dan Nakasone: To make that connection between a Nisei soldier and someone he actually called out of the cave.
It's extremely rare.
And to find out his name was Kaneshiro and that he was from Hawai’i, I was just blown away, stunned.
And in my mind, I'm thinking already that I needed to track this person down.
So I contacted some friends, the former editor of the Hawaiʻi Herald, she's done articles on MIS soldiers.
It came back to me, an email came back to me saying that there was only four Kaneshiros from Hawai’i, and Alice said that he was from the Big Island, and there was only one Kaneshiro from the Big Island, and that was Morimasa Kaneshiro.
Charles Kaneshiro/Son of Morimasa Kaneshiro: He had just graduated when he volunteered from high school, so he was 18, turning 19 when he entered into the military.
Myrtle Fujie Kaneshiro/Wife of Morimasa Kaneshiro: So I think just seeing the devastation to Okinawa and his parents were Isses.
So you know, they were very much affected by it.
And I know he knew that, he knew that.
Charles Kaneshiro/Son of Morimasa Kaneshiro: He said over and over again, you know, the destruction and the suffering of the civilians was really impacted him as a person.
It made he, he was going to become an engineer, is what he told me, when he was in high school, and seeing the suffering convinced him that his life purpose was to try to alleviate suffering of people.
And one of his important, he felt it was an important task was to go into the caves and try to get the civilians who were afraid to come out.
And so, he would use every means of persuasion, you know, telling them, I am Okinawan, you know, I mean, you know, You can trust me.
Dan Nakasone: We were able to find out the name of his son, Charles Kaneshiro.
So we reached out to him and, and I explained the story.
And I, I asked him that if we could, you know, talk story.
And moreover, I asked if, if he his family, would be willing to meet with the Toguchis.
General conversation as Toguchi and Kaneshiro family members meet: Music: Myrtle Fujie Kaneshiro/Wife of Morimasa Kaneshiro: Well until Mr. Nakasone told me I didn't know about it.
He never, he never mentioned resc...
I'm sure he rescued other people, you know, Okinawan citizens, to come out of a cave.
But he never mentioned Mrs. Miss Nakasone.
He never, he never did.
Charles Kaneshiro/Son of Morimasa Kaneshiro: Well, we can put a face to and a name and a family that were really helped by dad's just doing what he thought was what he was asked to do and what he was trying to do in Okinawa, which was save people.
Karen Irie/Daughter of Yoshino: That was quite amazing.
And I'm just hoping that he was the guy, laughs, because there are other Kaneshiros, but it seems so.
Sharon Yamasaki/Daughter of Yoshino: And I'm glad Dan found the Kaneshiros the correct Kaneshiros.
You know, we could meet each other and share stories, Alice Toguchi Matsuo/Daughter of Yoshino: And you could tell that that humanitarian type of character transcends among all of the children, including and his wife too.
So just being able to be among people like that was very, very heartwarming.
Dan Nakasone: You know, what was gratifying was the Yonsei, the fourth generation, wanted to come.
So for me, you know, that alone was, you know, worth the effort to, you know, put that gathering together.
Charles Kaneshiro/Son of Morimasa Kaneshiro: Meeting the family, I can only, I mean just meeting the, the Yonsei, especially, and, you know, seeing how they, you know, their spirit of service, of respect.
You know, they were helping clean up.
They brought all these, you know, food, and were so respectful.
I mean, told me a lot about Yoshino, the grandmother, because I can only just like our father had passed on their his values to us.
I'm sure she passed on those values.
Myrtle Fujie Kaneshiro/Wife of Morimasa Kaneshiro: I was really, sort of proud that he was part of it, that he got someone from Hawaii out, and there was a connection in that she was allowed to eventually come home, get married, and now her generation is down to the fourth generation already, and it will continue, you know?
And I thought, Oh, how wonderful.
You know that this happened for her, her side, you know.
Charles Kaneshiro/Son of Morimasa Kaneshiro: Your helping that person helps their family, could help a generation.
And to me, that's the moral of this experience, is you.
I'm sure my dad was just trying to do the best he could in that situation.
Okay, I'm gonna try to rescue these people, get him out of the cave, not knowing the impact that he would have on future generation and future family.
To me, that's the message.
Elaine Chun/Daughter of Yoshino: That's why we're here today, because of him.
Music: Dan Nakasone: Not giving up hope, right?
I think that's a big piece of the story, that they never gave up hope.
My grandmother never gave up hope, you know.
So that's a, you know, important piece that again, for my family members to know that this is what you know, your family's members went through, but they persevered, you know.
So that just adds again, like I said, you know.
Adds to enrich their identity as a Nakasone.
Music and singing in Okinawan: (Transition to Stories of Uchinanchu) Jon Itomura/Executive Director, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: So the question often comes up, What is, what does it mean to be Okinawan?
What is, what does it mean to be Uchinanchu?
Frances Nakachi Kuba/Okinawa Dance Master/President, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: Uchinanchu is someone who has roots in Okinawa.
You don't have to be Uchinanchu in blood.
It can be Uchinanchu at heart.
The Okinawan culture emphasizes on Shimabukuru and Yuimaru.
Yuimaru is helping one another.
If somebody who needs help, then you would provide, you would help them.
You know, it's there are.
It's not as much as of a hierarchy.
It's everybody's the same, and we all help each other.
Jon Itomura/Executive Director, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: So Taro Higa was a US soldier of Okinawan descent, reported back to relatives here that Okinawa was completely destroyed.
Because of the Battle of Okinawa and the ties here to the uchinanchu in Hawaiʻi, to the family and friends back home and hearing from Taro Higa that they need help.
The Uchinanchus here banded together started a collection of not only food, but clothing, medicine, books, toys, anything you can think of.
In my own family, my grandfather was a part of the effort that started the collection of monies to buy pigs.
And they were they were able to collect enough money to purchase 550 pigs, which they got from Nebraska, put them on the train and from Oregon, seven of them, including my grandfather, Shinyei Shimabukuro , jumped onto the boat and brought those pigs to Okinawa.
That started the relief effort that followed up with the goats and the clothing and the medicine and the toys and books and everything else.
They probably never saw their family and friends as the enemy.
They heard the news that their family and friends need help, that there was nothing left in Okinawa.
How can we help?
I believe would have been the call.
That would be my charge if I heard the same news, How can I help?
And so it was really that reaction to help family and friends, and that's one of the biggest reasons why, even for these seven men that got on the boat.
And their family didn't know about it.
My own mother didn't know about it, because they were simply going to help.
It wasn't this type of effort that, let's get the media involved and whatnot.
They used whatever media they could to raise moneys, but the fact that they're crossing the ocean and, you know, sailing through active mines in the in the waters that was never talked about.
And so it really was, what can we do to help our family and friends?
Kristen Mika-Toguchi Ishii/Granddaughter of Yoshino Toguchi: Grandma at the time she, of course, she lived in Hilo, but once, once I was born, my parents did mention that she did come, actually, for a month to help take care of me.
My dad always mentioned that grandma had this special magic touch where she was able to put me to sleep.
They were so grateful for her and helping to take care of me.
I can't even imagine what she has been through.
Can't imagine being in that cave for who knows how many days with other people, and you know, knowing, not knowing her brother.
And for us, we as a Yonsei generation, I really did not know anything much about her brother.
I know, you know, before she passed, she would mention that she had a brother, and I'm like, Oh, who was your brother, you know?
And so I feel, I just, it's definitely a whole different perspective.
And I, you know, I do wish I had more conversations with her about this.
This film has brought me so much closer to grandma, and has brought me so much insight into what she has gone through in her lifetime.
To, sorry.
I feel grandma has taught us to be, to know, again, I always mention this word about resilience and to be strong and to, I feel like grandma found joy in her life.
Despite with all this hardship she's been through, she found joy in family with her five children, her seven grandchildren, her now we have two great grandchildren spending time with each other, finding hobbies.
I discovered more, too, after talking with my father, that she loved to do ikebana.
She loved daytime soap operas.
I think that's how she was able to have such a great life, and that's what we should learn from that today.
Jon Itomura/Executive Director, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: The very primary message that I got from the film Persevere was the strong family bond and the strong attention to ancestors and who came before us.
That's very strong throughout the Okinawan culture.
They are not an idol worship community, it's ancestor worship.
Just the element of family and ties to family that was not only touching, but it's actually very educational in saying that, look, it's because of what we know from the past.
How do we carry it forward?
How do we bring the message to the next generation?
Frances Nakachi Kuba/Okinawa Dance Master/President, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: Never forget.
Never forget what the pioneers, the ancestors have done, have gone through and to learn and to appreciate what they did and to honor them and but never forget about them so that we continue to share their spirit, their endurance, their heart for the next generation so that there will be a better world.
Kristen Mika-Toguchi Ishii/Granddaughter of Yoshino Toguchi: Now I feel like as a as a fourth generation, is to preserve the family history and continue forward with talking about it with you know our new generations to come and even to learn from those experiences.
Jon Itomura/Executive Director, Hawaii United Okinawa Association: I think one challenge that lies with Uchinanchu, as it lies with many other cultures, especially in a melting pot that is Hawaiʻi, is how do we go forward into the future and continue to emphasize our identity, our culture, our heritage, and the most important part of that is education, but not through not only through formal education, academics, it's exactly what a film like Persevere talked about.
It's through family.
It's through talking and having stories shared between family members and passed down, and hoping that the next generation will always keep looking for answers.
That's the way that will keep our identity and our heritage into the future.
And it's so important, and I just hope that all families will continue to do that.
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