(majestic music) - [Narrator] 1789 was the year that Washington County was set aside, while the state was still part of Massachusetts.

And in 1847, the Danforth Plantation was organized.

But before being named, it was just known as the easterly part of Township No.

8.

Danforth was larger than most main townships, and it grew in size as unorganized grid rows and ranges became settled and more defined.

On March 17th, 1860, Danforth was officially incorporated as a town, rich with elaborate history, colorful characters, and surprising triumphs and defeats.

This is the extraordinary history of Danforth, Maine.

The census of 1860 reported Danforth's population to be 280.

The next decade witnessed a remarkable change in the rate of growth, with the population increasing nearly 100% to 612.

And by 1890, 1,063.

Even though the area had been visited by lumbermen in previous years, the first permanent settler in Danforth was Parker Tewksbury of Cornville.

Tewksbury's log cabin built on a site, which later became known as the Moores Farm, was considered the first permanent settlement in Danforth.

In 1890, the population of Danforth was 710, with many active churches.

As Clinton Kenny stated, "There is no excuse for people in Danforth not hearing the gospel."

(majestic music) There were many factors that contributed to Danforth's growth and prosperity in the early years and the wood industry topped the list.

(sawing tree) - Let me tell you a little bit about the logging history in Danforth at the turn of the century.

Around 1900 was about the time Danforth probably really got put on the map.

And Danforth's location is extremely strategic on the Baskahegan Stream and in the Baskahegan watershed.

Of course, the other big aspect of what made logging history work in Danforth, and if you think about logging and forestry, it really is only a product of what society needs at that point in time.

So, and at the turn of the century, you know, there were a lot of things still being made out of wood.

Things like last blocks, which were made were to make leather shoes, spools for thread, you know, for thread, and long lumber, as well.

- My family had a sawmill.

They did birch bulk wood.

And what was interesting about that is that it went out of business probably around '78, because the industry changed from wood spools, that's what it was for, for threads, to plastic.

And thus we had to make a change.

And uncle was getting up there in age and they decided just to quit the business.

My dad had a tie mill that made ties for the railroad, and he started that somewhere around '69.

And then I think in '90, '88, '90, I bought one of the mills from him and I sod landscape ties, for the landscape market.

And lo and behold, right around 2002, the landscape business changed.

They come up with decorative bricks for, and that kind of killed the tie market for that.

- It was lumber and the woods that put Danforth on the map, no question about it.

And a lot of activity in the town starting about that point in time, it was really getting underway, big time.

And it was growth.

- Baskahegan Company's been in my family since 1920.

My grandfather started first by buying land down on the coast near Machias, and then made the big purchase in 1920 here in Danforth, buying from Henry Putnam, four saw mills and essentially 100,000 acres of land.

- When my great-grandfather sold his land, it was the biggest land sale I understand, and I'm not sure what the area covered, but I know the New York Times was here to cover the land sale.

And the Baskahegan Company did a wonderful job with the land.

And Roger Milliken did a wonderful job.

And Roger Milliken, if you've never seen it, has a wonderful book, The Forest for the Trees.

And that tells quite a lot about it too.

- My grandfather, as far as I could tell, bought the land with the intention of buying it, cutting it hard to make the money back and ending up with the land for free.

What got in the way of that plan was that there were far fewer trees on the land than he thought when he bought it.

They shut operations down in 1926.

(easy listening music) - St. Regis Paper Company owned the debarker and ran it.

And the wood that came into that debarker was rough.

That is, it had the bark on it, and the mill couldn't manufacture that.

So they had to take the bark off.

Previously to the barker, if you will, to the debarker, bark was removed from the trees in the woods.

It was spotted off by humans.

This was a mechanical way to remove bark.

That wood was brought in, trucked in, whatever, and ran through the debarker and loaded on railroad cars and shipped to Bucksport.

Interestingly enough, the barker didn't, the debarker didn't last long.

I recall as a child, I could hear it three miles away.

Sounded like thunder in the morning.

(thundering noise) - Annoying thing too, boom, ba, ba, boom, all day long.

Then men were out there picking rows and they'd pull it in.

They'd go up into the drum and tumble and tumble and tumble, and eventually it would come out.

(wood tumbling) And then go up to these guys where the box cars were.

- [Narrator] The 1840 census had Northern Maine outproducing all other counties delivering almost 2 million board feet per year.

And Danforth produced its share.

(water rushing) - Most of the transportation of forest products in the Danforth would've been by water.

And, of course, a lot of the transportation of products out would've been by rail, because it was the railroad that really put Danforth on the map when that was put through this region.

- [Narrator] The railroad was another economic factor in Danforth's early success.

Fueled by the logging industry and the ability to move goods on the railroad, Danforth's economy expanded and prospered.

- We had the train that stopped in Danforth.

And, we had our passenger train.

We had one that stopped in, let's see, in the morning going towards Bangor.

I was working on extra days.

I was extra day foreman, looked, taking care of the railroad track from, from Vanceboro to Bangor.

Then I started out, I was what you'd call a TrackMan.

Then shot a few years and I was a section foreman.

I had my own crew in Bancroft.

(mid tempo music) I had a lot of military traffic going through, and I would have to ride the military trains from point A to point B, because they had to have a supervisor on the train.

And, this, on the train, we'll say at 7:30 AM, to go to Bangor.

Well, it'd be noontime for you to get to Bangor.

(mid tempo music) Danforth was a big stop for 'em.

They took off passengers, they took off freight, hauled pulp wood, they hauled grain, they hauled just about anything you could mention, it was hauled on the trains.

- [Joyce] The mail hours came in on that seven o'clock train.

- And the post office was a gathering place.

The mail came in at around seven o'clock in the morning and everybody gathered at the post office while they put the mail into a cart and wheeled it over.

And everybody was waiting and chatting while they got the mail changed, we called it.

And they would open up the post office, then you could get your mail, then.

- There was a train that came up through from Bangor and they would pick them up.

So they'd spend the night in Danforth going to movies and getting groceries and doing everything that they had to do.

And the train come outta Canada at 11 o'clock and they rode back home on the 11 o'clock train back to Bancroft and back to Pitlock.

- Didn't like stopping in Bancroft very well.

So they'd slow right down and say, you jump off.

(chuckling) - One interesting aspect of Danforth was that it was one of the early communities that had electricity.

And, even though, I mean, that was long before my time.

I remember talking with a guy by the name of Doc Day, Frank Day.

He was very instrumental here in town.

He did a lot of things, including a lot of work on the town clock and so on.

He was a Maginnis, he could fix anything.

And he told me some stories about that old power plant, which is, at really at, the near the dam here on, on Baskahegan Stream, to generate electricity.

Now, there were flower mills, gristmills, as well.

So, I'm sure there probably was a commercial use of that, but of the electricity that was generated, in terms of the milling that made it possible to develop it.

But at the same time, I understand that there were houses here with lights and streetlights in Danforth way before any other place around.

- The Putnam family's impact on Danforth would've be, the major impact would've begun, I think, when, who, what would be my great-grandfather came back from the, he went in the Civil War.

I've still got some of his letters from Louisiana.

And he came back, he started driving the stage between Danforth and Princeton and then Calais, I believe, and he saw land for sale.

He not only drove the stage, but as he went along, he sold things.

He had things that he bought and he sold, and he made money as he went.

And he gradually bought land.

And as he bought the land, it was a tremendous amount, I don't remember the acreage now, he in turn, he lived here in Danforth.

He was one, my great-grandfather was one of 17 children.

He actually was born in Holton, but he lived here in Danforth.

And then he had seven children, and he built mills here.

At one point, I think there were seven boxwood mills.

The boxes were shipped out on the railroad, which was very busy in those days.

And they went to Central and South America for fruits.

And then some of the things I grew up hearing about spool bars, because that was what yarn was wound on.

And some of them stayed in this country and a lot went to Scotland.

As time went along, he wanted to have electricity.

He wanted electricity for his house.

And I understand there was one light bulb downtown and one at his house right up there.

And then he electrified the whole town.

And then he put in underneath the streets, he put in water so that he could have water.

He lost a mill one time, so he installed water in the whole town, so that they would have fire suppression when they needed it.

So I think it was a variety of things.

Employing people, seeing things that needed to be done, giving the church bell to the Methodist Church.

Just different things that he, that the family did to contribute to the area, which they loved.

- A store, once upon a time, in Danforth, that at the end of inventory they would go up on the third floor and anything left over, they would throw it out the window and people would come from all directions picking up whatever they could get ahold of.

This was very well advertised by big signs in the window and in the street.

- Oh, my goodness, there was a lot of stores.

We'll start with the food, the food stores.

There was Putnam's on the corner, where the store is today, right over here.

Another store, further down the street, was Rose Store.

It was two brothers had the store.

And down further across the street was another store, the T and K. And up over that store was apartments.

And on the other side of it was a pool hall, run by Mans Williams.

Some of the older people would remember Mans Williams.

He was a part-time sheriff along with everything else.

I think we had five grocery stores.

(mid tempo music) We had the hardware store.

(mid tempo music) We had restaurants.

- The one thing about back park, as long as I remember, when we come from the movie theater, we'd bee liner for Nadine's Saturday Night Steam Hot Dogs.

The steamed rolls, the the big black kettle, and they were, they were good, they were to kill for, they were really good.

And, you could hardly get up and down the sidewalks on a Saturday night here when the movie theater was going, and people from all around came here.

- Nadine's was a restaurant, or, and it was the place to go when we were teenagers.

And we'd get out in the back park and Nadine would have to peek around the corner to make sure we weren't making out back there, which wasn't allowed.

But that's where you went to have your, your part of your date, at least.

He'd take you out for a hamburger, french fries.

- Hotels, we had two or three big hotels, large hotels.

We had one over behind the train station, was called the Van Dome.

And we had a big one beside, we called it a dance hall on the back end.

It was beautiful.

The floor was beautiful and it was just a nice dance hall.

We had a dentist off, two dentists office, and one, two, three, doctor's offices.

And of course we had gas stations.

Car places where they could fix cars.

(mid tempo music) We had a bank.

And the bank, long before my time, somebody stole all the money in it.

The Town Office used to be the bank.

- My father had the garage in 1946, right after the war.

He bought it from the Varneys.

That's the same Varney Company in Bangor today.

That's Bill Varney's boys running that.

Bill Varney was born in my mother and father's house that they bought from Varneys up beyond the top of the hill, there.

I was about eight, nine years old and I was in there and working with my dad, and I did, I worked with my dad a lot.

I always worked.

I worked carrying wood to the Gillis family for a dollar a week.

I'd fill the mill a wood box twice a day, for seven days a week, for a dollar.

That was my first big job.

I was about eight, nine years old then.

Then I'd go into the car and my father had me greasing and changing oil in cars when I was 10, 11 years old.

So, my father was a great mechanic.

He was, he was a, you could give him a roll of haywire, and roll a tape and he can make anything run and go a little longer.

He was a good old fashioned farm mechanic.

And I'd watch him do that, and I said, "Dad", I said, "Will I ever get as good as you gotten?"

He said, "Oh, yeah, son, you'll get as good I've gotten."

He said, "You'll know everything I teach you, plus you'll learn that much again yourself."

And that's what I told Michael, he's three times better than I was.

(chuckling) You know, he learned from me, my father and all of my grandchildren are all mechanical.

All of them, yeah.

And so, then I built the building that's there now and we decided to open it for business.

And we did a business.

We really did.

We were really busy.

We had everything that everybody wanted, you know, you know, there were seven kids at home, don't forget.

And we only had that little garage to make a living in.

And many, many people bartered, like the Leaves family out back.

They had eggs, they had cream and milk.

They'd come in and trade for gas, oil and stuff to run their chainsaws.

Chainsaws wasn't out when I first, when they first started cutting wood, they had just box saws, of course, but there was no liquor in Danforth, you couldn't buy no beer and liquor in Danforth, you had to go to Emory's.

Emory became very, very wealthy with that deal, 'cause he was the only beer store within four or five miles.

And, Richard, Ben and I, we made our first million dollars there.

We'd go over and pick all the bottles and stuff, and say, I'll take 'em back to the store for the nickel a piece.

(chuckling) And we'd got, back in those days, we'd take our bicycles.

Every, every, every Monday, Sunday morning, we'd make sure we were went to Emory's and back, because they, on the way back, they'd drink, throw a bottle out the window when you pick it up, it was worth 2 cents.

It was worth 2 cents.

(easy listening music) - Barbershop.

That was, even as a kid, that was an interesting place.

Come Friday or Saturday night, you'd go in there, and it would be nothing but people, not necessarily there for a haircut, but it was a big bold place is what that was.

That was kind of neat.

One fella here in town, I'm pretty sure Leland remembered Lust today.

He went in there as a young fellow and asked Cheryl to give him a Mohegan.

But, I'll tell you what, Lust's mother went up and down Cheryl like you wouldn't believe.

She was not a happy camper with that one.

But Cheryl was a really nice guy.

He did a lot of good things for people around town.

He drove us and there was kids that didn't have money on a trip, he'd buy their lunch or sneakers.

He did a lot of things.

He was, he was a real decent guy, I thought.

Oh, my grandfather, he had a dentist office in Danforth.

That's all I can remember is a kid down on the street.

And of course, like any kid, you don't wanna knowing what a dentist is, but he'd holler out, "So you come on up, let me look at your teeth, I'll give you 2 cents."

So we'd go up, he never worked on none of my teeth.

Course, as a kid you probably didn't have nothing bad, anyway.

I can remember the machines, all the drills and things, it was like a pump thing.

He just kept pumping his feet.

You'd hear that thing, argh, argh, argh, oh, God.

- And, old man, Springer, the dentist was on that side.

Oh, Mr. Springer drank a little bit.

So you wanted to go early in the morning if you wanted the tooth out, I'll tell you.

And, of course we didn't do no, we didn't do no filling or nothing.

That tooth went bad, she come out of there, you know?

So, we was pretty careful with our teeth back in those days.

(chuckling) So, anyway, and then downstairs was the Fayfield Hardware Store.

Ann's grandmother, Ned's sister.

- Movie theater was for us kids.

That was a big thing on Saturdays, Friday, Saturday night, whatever, for us kids it was a lot of fun.

I mean, you, 25 cents bought your way into the movie and a soda and a popcorn.

Try that today.

(chuckling) You ain't even, you couldn't get the soda.

But they had a, Ned had a tunnel, well they don't call it a tunnel, it was a thing between the theater and the old store.

And you, if you wanted to get your candy, you went through that tunnel, and every now and again, I don't know if it was Ned or Frank, they owned it together I guess, but we'd get through there and they shut them lights off.

You talk about some kids being scared, you know, this tunnel was pretty long.

And, Frankenstein, I can remember me and a bunch of us kids just left.

We had nothing to do with that movie.

(laughing) - Saturday night we usually went to the movies.

The man next door was a barber and his wife would cook beans and get his dinner in the morning, and she'd hire us, my sister and I to take his dinner to him.

And we got a dime a piece.

That 10 cents would take us to the movies.

(big band music) - And there were candy stores and drug stores and different places to go.

And I can remember there was a big barn for the woods horses right on the corner, the Eureka.

And I was not supposed to go over there.

And horses intrigued me from a young age.

So that was tempting.

- [Joyce] We had two or three big hotels, large hotels.

(light listening music) - But I loved being in Danforth and I have very happy memories of Danforth.

And it was such a thriving community.

It's hard to imagine now, but even in my teenage years, when I would be at the cottage, up at East Grand Lake, and I had my driver's license, I would come down, there were three drugstores, I think, and one of the drugstores right here on Main Street, they used to get magazines in like Monday and Thursday and you could always get the latest Vogue or 17 or all the magazines.

And they had film developing.

I still have, you know, black and white photos taken around the lake that I would bring down here to have developed.

So, it really was a thriving town right through, I don't remember when it started to, well, I think when the mills closed, it started to go down.

- My dad, Earl Cowan ran an ice business here in Danforth.

The original ice house was a big red barn that set approximately where the residential center is, along the river.

And I remember as a little girl, not quite four years old, being allowed to walk down with my mom down to the River Bank and watch my dad and my grandpa, George, and Donnie Little, who helped my father, cut the ice with huge big saws.

And I used to say to my mom, "They're gonna fall through mommy.

Look how thin that ice is."

But when they hooked it onto the grappling hooks and lifted it up onto the truck, those ice blocks were probably a foot and a half, to two feet thick.

And then I remember going with my dad down to Gillis's Lumber yard and filling big barrels full of sawdust, because that's what packed the ice in the ice house to keep it from melting.

And then I also remember riding with daddy in the truck to deliver ice.

And if you saw in the window a white 9 x 12 piece of paper, that meant you wanted a whole block of ice.

But if they turned it around, it was half white and half black.

You only wanted a half a block.

But it was pretty amazing to grow up here.

And then my dad also, for many years, cut and shipped Christmas trees across the United States.

So growing up in the town of Danforth was a pretty amazing place to grow up.

At that time, even in just that part of Danforth, like the Russells had a huge dairy farm.

The Noyes had a dairy farm.

There were probably 10 or 15 good sized dairy farms when I grew up in this area.

And at one point my dad actually drove the milk truck for HP Wood and Son.

He would go to the different farms and collect the milk in the big old, the big old milk cans that, you know, God forbid now you would use anything like that.

People in the city don't have any idea how important growing up in a small community is, where everybody knows everybody.

Everybody cares about everybody.

Everybody helps everybody.

They just don't do that in the city.

My mom and dad made sure that people in town that were less fortunate, because we had a dairy farm, daddy provided people with milk and meat and wood for their fires.

And it's just, it's a way of life.

It's a way of life in Northern Maine.

And I wouldn't give it up for anything in this world.

- When I talk about those times, I say, if you had a penny, you could go shopping in Danforth, as a child, because they had these counters in the stores that were filled with penny candy.

And you could, with a penny, you could pick which three you wanted.

So that, that was a big joy as a child.

- Yeah, on a Saturday night here, with the movie theater and everything, this town was like a little hub and everybody would come around from Wytopitlock.

And I've even heard stories about people getting on the train, hopping the train, from Vanceboro or Pitlock or wherever, to come to Danforth on a Saturday night, and everybody would, you couldn't walk on the sidewalk.

You had to walk off, because there was so much traffic, foot traffic, people going back and forth.

And, it's hard to imagine that now.

And I think the population of our community back then, it might have been around 15 or 1,600.

So, you bring people from Vanceboro, Wytopitlock, Bancroft, all used, this was the hub on a Saturday night, lot of action.

- [Narrator] In 1987, the United States Department of Interior placed the Danforth Union Hall in the National Registry of Historic Places.

(blue grass music) - Union Hall was built in 1888.

And sometime during the next 10 years, the clock tower was added to the Union Hall.

And in 1898, the clock was put in the clock tower.

Yeah, the clock, its original position was up in the top of the bell tower, which was hard to get at and it was hard for anybody to get up there to see it that wanted to see it.

We contracted Azar Clockworks to recondition the clock.

We suggested that maybe it could be relocated down here in the main floor of the Town Hall, so the public could see it.

(blue grass music) - When my mother was a little girl she said there used to be a racetrack and they gathered and raced their sulkies.

(light listening music) They had a very large pavilion with rollerskating.

It was the thing to do together, while your parents were at the track.

- [Commentator] Outrigger in first, number three, Destiny Turn.

- It was a fun place to grow up.

School was great.

Of course, there, and the school was outstanding.

People took the train to get here from Vanceboro to go to school and a lot chose Danforth.

So, it was quite full.

- [Narrator] The Soldiers' Memorial Gymnasium was completed in 1925, due to the efforts of many organizations, including the Danforth High School Alumni Association.

And on November 3rd, 1939, a celebration was held there, where Old Man Mortgage was burned.

School continued unhindered until tragedy struck on January 16th, 1958, when the building burned in a fiery blaze.

Amazingly, the gymnasium was saved, mainly because of men like Milo Lee and his brother, who sat on the gymnasium's roof and kept it hosed.

In an effort to rebuild, Senator J. Hollis Wyman wrote the chairman and members of the State Board of Education on behalf of the residents of Danforth, Maine.

"Now, since I have been in the legislature, Danforth has had a series of school fires and the legislature has seen fit to appropriate money by special resolve to help the town rebuild the schools.

All that is keeping them from going ahead is the state's approval of the proportion of the cost to enable the board of directors to proceed with the plans for the construction."

With the hard work of the citizens and help from the state, the new school was built in 1961 and became part of a consolidated school district and changed its name to the East Grand High School.

- I went to school in Danforth High School for my first year, and then they moved us to the bonus school, in, about the next year.

So, we stayed there and I came down here again in, when I was in the eighth grade, in Danforth, and I graduated there.

Well, we'd get up at probably around five o'clock, time we got our breakfast and walked it from there down to town.

Walked all the way.

So, six in all, three down, three back.

Hour and a half maybe, unless you run across the fields and in through the woods to get there quicker.

But, one of the little children was so sick, was quite sick, and they found that out.

So they shut the school right down and that was it.

We didn't have no graduation on the account of the fevers or whatever they had.

- 1923 was one of the most disastrous floods in the town of Danforth.

You could see looking out into the street of the, it flooded clear up down the street and you could see people going in canoes back and forth, to help out.

(majestic music) Over in back of the store, along the river by the railroad track, was a gristmill and it was used very much from with the farmers around.

It took that out, took it down river and banged into the bridge and knocked that downstream.

(majestic music) (rain falling) - [Narrator] Sports and especially basketball has always been a part of Danforth's pride in history.

The women's team won Maine's first ever State D Tournament and was inducted into the Maine Basketball Hall of Fame, in 2022, where they were given a special dedication at the Danforth Alumni Banquet.

- I remember the day our coach, Dennis Codrey, came and spoke to the team and he said, "Girls, guess what?

There's a chance this year that we could go to a state tournament."

And we were like, "Well, what's that?"

And he said, "You get, you could get a gold ball, you take down the nets."

And we were like, "Oh, wow, that sounds cool."

But we really didn't understand, because there hadn't been one before, what we were actually going to do.

We were making history and we didn't know it.

But I always remember that my dad talked about that game for the rest of his life.

It was a big deal for our community to go to Augusta.

I've had people tell me it was the first time they ever stayed in a hotel and the crowd was huge.

And if you look at pictures, you can still see them in the background.

It was a great time.

- I never thought they would take us to the Basketball Hall of Fame in the state of Maine, I said, "Wow."

People sort of were critical that we didn't run a lot of pattern plays, but they could play defense and they put some defense on it and in the state tournament, the semi-finals, they took a hundred shots, was a lot of shots in basketball.

It means they missed a lot too, but they could rebound.

And our philosophy was, if you could see the basket, you shoot it and go to the board.

So there's a lot to be proud of.

I appreciate it and I'm very thankful and it's an honor.

- When we came back home, from Augusta, the town had organized a big party for us and we didn't know it.

We got out back of town and we had a police escort in town, and as we came in, there was cars pulling off side roads and stuff to escort us in.

And I remember when we got to the school, the lawn was just covered with people.

You could just see, see nothing but people up there.

Everybody in town was there.

It was so good.

- [Narrator] As with many towns in rural Maine that peaked at the turn of the century, Danforth continues to remember and build on its great heritage as it reinvents itself, by developing community spirit with annual events and attractions.

(uplifting music) Danforth is a designated AARP Livable Community, with a focus on food, transportation and one-on-one assistance for the senior population.

The new Livable Community Center has been developed to focus on socialization and the new community pavilion will host year-round community events.

Being located near Grand Lake provides a variety of water activities for both residents and tourists alike.

(uplifting music) (whimsical music) - Well, she told me about coming downtown with her father.

Her father had gotten wind that there was going to be a Depression, that the banks were going to fail.

And he and my mother came downtown and they were going to the bank, which is now the Town Office.

And she said, I remember hanging onto his hand and skipping down the sidewalk, which was made out of wood and there was large cracks in it.

And she said, I could look down and see the water from the brook rushing down underneath me, as I went to the bank with my father.

- That was my first job was to be a spare at the telephone company.

I was still in high school when I did that.

And the thing of it was, at that time, you could have a savings account at the post office, but I saved all my money and I was making 17 cents an hour and I saved up enough for a year at college.

- They had the steam engines coming through town there and a lot of times they stopped right in town, because there was a water tower, and, of course, they had to have water and they used to fill it outta that.

That was another thing us kids did, we weren't supposed to do.

We climbed up the water tower and swam in it.

We always waiting for the time, we're gonna get up there and they're gonna open that spigot up and we're gonna spit out through it.

(laughing) Anyway, that wouldn't have happened, but.

- I wasn't really into school anyway, I was into making money somewhere.

In the spring, I tapped trees, and sell 'em for a dollar a quart, maple syrup, to all the school teachers.

And then they say, "Are you gonna be good in class today?"

And I said, "Yes, I am, if you buy from maple syrup."

(chuckling) - I would just like people that are watching this to know that even though it's a small town, and even though it's gone smaller since I grew up here, where Main Street had many stores and shops, it is an amazing community where you need something, someone is gonna reach out their hand and help you with it.

We don't have that in the city.